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Ramjet

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also i don't know if that was a jab at Australia but maybe you should try reading our involvements with wars we actually kicked America out of Australia for a period in the 90s because of their war mongering we weren't apart of either invasion of Iraq and in desert storm all we did was build hospitals provide rations to civilians and defuse minefields

Vietnam caused a lot of strain on US AUS relations and we have refused to just blindly do what they tell us since then

@GreenZone

Wasn't a jab/disrespect against you or your nation,but nice redirect anyway.
 
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Izzy4895

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After the US got what they wanted out of the Mujahideen in Afganistan to fight Russia by proxy....

www.theguardian.com: Frankenstein the CIA created

It goes to show that US politicians don't have any principled opposition to groups like Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram, etc. There's no limit to what kind of repulsive regimes and measures they will support as long as it serves their interests and those of the wealthy oligarchs they represent.
 

GreenZone

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What conspiracy?

This is all common knowledge available to anyone.

what that the CIA fucked up and backed Shite groups that would become radicalised after the inexperienced pro western Sunni Muslim leaders tried to drive it underground

you two sound like the CIA backed the Mujahideen knowing they would turn on the west some day no one expected any of this to happen the CIA even admits it was a mistake to get involved but it was the cold war and stopping Communism was a global effort it was not simply "lets not get involved"
 

Ramjet

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what that the CIA fucked up and backed Shite groups that would become radicalised after the inexperienced pro western Sunni Muslim leaders tried to drive it underground

you two sound like the CIA backed the Mujahideen knowing they would turn on the west some day no one expected any of this to happen the CIA even admits it was a mistake to get involved but it was the cold war and stopping Communism was a global effort it was not simply "lets not get involved"


Not gonna lie,your right...
I don't think the US expected them to turn and declare war against the West...
Imagine being used as a pawn and declared an enemy after the fact,I'd be pissed too:D

I'm glad we can actually get on the same page....

The fact is Afghanistan,Iraq,Libya is all a failure with US NATO intervention...You think Syria will be any different? Especially with Russia being a State sponsor?

What purpose or advantage to American (common people) interests reside in such a conflict?
Hint,follow the money....
Monetary State gain clears the narrative in this fog...
 
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GreenZone

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Not gonna lie,your right...
I don't think the US expected them to turn and declare war against the West...
Imagine being used as a pawn and declared an enemy after the fact,I'd be pissed too:D

I'm glad we can actually get on the same page....

The fact is Afghanistan,Iraq,Libya is all a failure with US NATO intervention...You think Syria will be any different? Especially with Russia being a state sponsor?

What purpose or advantage to American (common people) interests reside in such a conflict?
Hint,follow the money....
Monetary state gain clears the narrative in this fog...

ah... to stop isis?.... do you not remember when we were in a world where we didn't have to worry about trucks of peace or getting stabbed in your front yard...

not too long ago there was a Muslim woman who without warning hacked up an old man with an axe saying she did it for ISIS in broad daylight too he was just mowing his lawn or something
 

Ramjet

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ah... to stop isis?.... do you not remember when we were in a world where we didn't have to worry about trucks of peace or getting stabbed in your front yard...


Yeah I certainly do...

Seems right about the time before the US destabilized the Middle East with the invasion of Iraq causing a domino effect through the entire middle eastern region.

Btw did the US congress or the international community ever find those WMD's in Iraq that initiated that invasion?
 
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BahgDaddy

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I actually had a decent day at work and when does that happen?

The worst thing that happened to me today is I found out after I had spaghetti sauce cooking for five hours (gets better longer you slow cook) that I was out of spaghetti noodles and had to use macaroni.

How about you?

I'm actually quite well, which is probably a bit odd, considering. Also, sometimes Spaghetti honestly tastes good with different noodles, and the change is enjoyable.
 

GreenZone

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Yeah I certainly do...

Seems right about the time before the US destabilized the Middle East with the invasion of Iraq...


what in 2003? nothing happened until the rise of ISIS mate... like yeah America is fucked but what do you expect me to do about it? or even an American
 

Ramjet

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what in 2003? nothing happened until the rise of ISIS mate... like yeah America is fucked but what do you expect me to do about it? or even an American

Would ISIS have been a thing without the vacuum of power that NATO created with the decapitation of Iraq/Libya?

Everything has a price...
 

GreenZone

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Would ISIS have been a thing without the vacuum of power that NATO created with the decapitation of Iraq/Libya?

Everything has a price...

fuck man you cunts are talking about this stuff and my mates are making plans when specifically we're going to abandon our posts and become raider gangs in the event you're all Nuked and Australia is left on its own for society to break down

there's like... too much negativity going around mannnnnnn *puffs on vape*
 

Ramjet

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What can you do other then lol at this point?:D

No one wants to pay attention anyway,they only thing you can do at this point is enjoy yourself through this decline.
 
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GreenZone

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What can you do other then lol at this point?:D

No one wants to pay attention anyway,they only thing you can do at this point is enjoy yourself through this decline.

every generation thought they would live to see the end but they don't

even in the predicted case that the worlds nuked and only Australia and a couple others are left untouched it wont be the end there'll be a natural cull of starvation in the population until it becomes stable

we'll still have power some cars like Teslas will still work we have a lot of green energy plants and decel plants fuck we even have a power plant in WA that has a battery that can run for a month before running out of juice life will go on it wont be the end of all things
 

Ramjet

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every generation thought they would live to see the end but they don't

even in the predicted case that the worlds nuked and only Australia and a couple others are left untouched it wont be the end there'll be a natural cull of starvation in the population until it becomes stable

we'll still have power some cars like Teslas will still work we have a lot of green energy plants and decel plants fuck we even have a power plant in WA that has a battery that can run for a month before running out of juice life will go on it wont be the end of all things


The fact you speak about "end" without me or anyone else stating such speaks wonders,projection 101...

I don't think humans are going anywhere anytime soon,our way of life however is a different story altogether.
 

GreenZone

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idk man think only Australia NZ and two others will be left it wouldn't be the same world as the radiation died in other continents we'd recolonise them help survivors rebuild it would be a different world old ideologies would be gone and we'd be hell bent in making sure this never happened again old rivalries may resurface some day and once again man would fight man but we'd never let it get to this stage again i kind of take comfort in that

hawkings said we have one great trial left but was ambiguous about it many thought he meant AI but maybe he means now

Humanity was at only 10,000 people once in WW3 2-3 billion will survive
 

Ramjet

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idk man think only Australia NZ and two others will be left it wouldn't be the same world as the radiation died in other continents we'd recolonise them help survivors rebuild it would be a different world old ideologies would be gone and we'd be hell bent in making sure this never happened again old rivalries may resurface some day and once again man would fight man but we'd never let it get to this stage again i kind of take comfort in that

hawkings said we have one great trial left but was ambiguous about it many thought he meant AI but maybe he means now

Humanity was at only 10,000 people once in WW3 2-3 billion will survive


No argument here,if a nuclear exchage happens we will survive.

No doubt it be a much different world though...
 

Ramjet

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dare i say even a world without war mirrors edge is set like after the fallout/madmax stages of post WW3 and i feel that's what would happen we'd pick up the pieces and continue

Yup seems like a never ending repeating cycle of destruction to birth creation,as is life...

Learn as we go,tis all we can do.:)
 

LogicNuke

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every generation thought they would live to see the end but they don't

even in the predicted case that the worlds nuked and only Australia and a couple others are left untouched it wont be the end there'll be a natural cull of starvation in the population until it becomes stable

we'll still have power some cars like Teslas will still work we have a lot of green energy plants and decel plants fuck we even have a power plant in WA that has a battery that can run for a month before running out of juice life will go on it wont be the end of all things
idk man think only Australia NZ and two others will be left it wouldn't be the same world as the radiation died in other continents we'd recolonise them help survivors rebuild it would be a different world old ideologies would be gone and we'd be hell bent in making sure this never happened again old rivalries may resurface some day and once again man would fight man but we'd never let it get to this stage again i kind of take comfort in that

hawkings said we have one great trial left but was ambiguous about it many thought he meant AI but maybe he means now

Humanity was at only 10,000 people once in WW3 2-3 billion will survive
No argument here,if a nuclear exchage happens we will survive.

No doubt it be a much different world though...
I mean Australia is given 50/50 odds in most COG scenarios. It is geographically remote, removed from the jetstreams which means reduced fallout risk, has defense and resettlement agreement with multiple island nations which could augment the food supply and labor force in a world without international trade as we know it, and has a military and government capable of rebuilding a sizeable portion of the Pacific's infrastructure after a nuclear war.

But there is also the fact that a lot of countries, like China and Russia, have factored Australia into their first and second strike strategies and would lob a few ICBMs at major cities and installations to ensure the Australians do not inherit the Earth .... but it's an open question whether they would want to waste reaction time responding to a potential future threat when they could try (and probably fail) to intercept incoming nukes.

Either way you dice it, the bad news is most of the world won't be happy campers come morning. The good news will be they won't be unhappy campers because they'll be dead.
 

Ramjet

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I mean Australia is given 50/50 odds in most COG scenarios. It is geographically remote, removed from the jetstreams which means reduced fallout risk, has defense and resettlement agreement with multiple island nations which could augment the food supply and labor force in a world without international trade as we know it, and has a military and government capable of rebuilding a sizeable portion of the Pacific's infrastructure after a nuclear war.

But there is also the fact that a lot of countries, like China and Russia, have factored Australia into their first and second strike strategies and would lob a few ICBMs at major cities and installations to ensure the Australians do not inherit the Earth .... but it's an open question whether they would want to waste reaction time responding to a potential future threat when they could try (and probably fail) to intercept incoming nukes.

Either way you dice it, the bad news is most of the world won't be happy campers come morning. The good news will be they won't be unhappy campers because they'll be dead.


A full out nuclear exchange would consist of targets against each others nuclear capacity first,and destabilizing each other though a scorched-earth policy second...In the end every nation would be left with a diminished influence within themselves...Forget a world economy anymore...

The world's nuclear power players have alot of nukes,but nothing life on Earth couldn't handle...

Socially/economically it'd be absolutely devastating,but we'd overcome and move on.Albeit with a much smaller presence on this planet:D
 
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LogicNuke

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A full out nuclear exchange would consist of targets against each others nuclear capacity first and destabilizing each other though a scorched-earth policy second...In the end every nation would be left with a diminished influence within themselves...Forget a world economy anymore...

The world's power players have alot of nukes,but nothing life on each couldn't handle...

Socially/economically it'd be absolutely devastating,but we'd overcome and move on.Albeit with a much smaller presence on this planet:D
Don't be so sure. Collectively, we have a shitload of nukes, enough to destroy the world via nuclear winter a hundred times over literally. Nuclear winter would drastically diminish food production and even vegetation growth globally for decades, maybe even a century. Life could survive, but it may very well not be human life.
 
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