Opinions on "Art Hogs" ?

[Krisztina]

Of course I can't name names. But I wanted to discuss members of the community who commission, bid and buy an absurd amount of art, specifically things that are considered YCH's.

Once or twice I've encountered some of these individuals in pieces I was interested in, and even seeing their name has been intimidating enough to either resign early, or straight out autobuy. Because these individuals will buy 6, 10, 15 pieces a month and spend $2000, $3000 like it's no object. and these people often have pieces of the same character in the triple digits.

What's people's opinion on this? Is it something out of control that shouldn't be able to be abused to the degree it is . Or is it something "poor" people just have to suck up and get over?

*To be clear, I am specifically referring to people who have completely gone off the deep end, buying 10-15 pieces in a month all for the same character, and almost jealously getting into bidding wars with anyone who challenges their chance at a piece she or he wants*

Can't help but feel a little angry when I decide to get an art piece, I usually get one once every 2-3 months.. but could get more if I wanted... nevertheless, start having pieces I like picked off by the same individual sometimes multiple times in a week. I've become so fed up with it I've considered contacting the person directley to voice my grievances. It's neither of our faults that we like the same artists, but it's gotten bad enough I've pretty much abandoned FA

 

[Mikazuki Marazhu]

I buy art
I don't have issues with people buying alot of art
I only have issues artist not opening commission slots because of Patreon

 

[PercyD]

I've been out of the game for a bit, but-
Is it a thing where artists just won't take commissions? Just because you are poor doesn't mean you eventually can't get art. You just can't get the auction that you're wanting.

I don't think this should be a problem in a community where you can talk to creators directly to get the content that you want. Also, if the creator just doesn't want to work with you at all, maybe you shouldn't be giving them your money. This doesn't seem like a "creator's market". It's still a market very much dictated by the commissioners.

 

[Ginza]

I buy quite a lot of art. Honestly, if you have the money for it, who cares?

Anyone who gets pissy over it just comes off as bitter and jealous to me, though I’m not implying you’re that way- just my thoughts in general.

It’s capitalism, if you have the most money, you’re going to get the product.

Although, I will say, people who snatch spots from people who have no art, kinda rub me the wrong way at times. Just depends on the situation. More so, it’s on the free art thread situations.

 

[Krisztina]

Oh I'm completely bitter. I understand that money is money, but someone who spends 300 on one item, their money is just as good as someone who's spent 1200 on 4 items in the same month..

Bitter than many of the artists I'm (And no doubt others..) interested in, almost every time they open a YCH or even just general commissions, they're taken up by the same person.
That is a problem on both sides, The ones buying the art, have no respect for others and just "hog" everything. Which seems completely self centered and narcissistic. Maybe im just blinded by frustration but sometimes I think these people have a genuine mental problem, Seriously, who would so such a thing as to have 100 pics done in a year, most of the same character, that to me is like someone's trying to be a celebrity and throwing their wallet at it.

And the artists themselves, some of them are enabling this behaivor by not turning down the person who's already taken say, 4 of the last 10 slots they've put up.
I know a couple who are classy enough to put people on pause after they've hired 2-3 times in a season depending on their work order.

 

[PercyD]

From the artists perspective, I don't really understand this sentiment at all. Especially because the person paying them 1,000 a month is probably paying their rent. There is a degree of you have to have a relationship with the artist to get the content that you want. This isn't like Walmart or H&M where you can buy the product you want enmasse.

You can easily go and talk to *another* artist who will create content for you. There are so many other artists who have beautiful work who I've traded with, who I'm friends with. They don't get commissioned at all.

Theres no such thing as an "art hog". Theres plenty of creativity and skill in this community. People who are even more willing to work with you paying them.

 

[Krisztina]

You misunderstood what I was trying to say.

Not 1 person paying 1 artist.

1 person wrapping up multiple artists

If 1 person has a relationship with 1 artist and that person gets preferiential treatment due to past business, Ok, Fine.

If 1 person is getting preferential treatment or just snapping up stuff from multiple artists. That's what I was complaining about.

 

[Illuminaughty]

Honestly, being too upset about this is short sighted. If you really like an artist (or artists), you should really just be happy they're getting so much business. Getting commission work is hard, and maintaining a living on commission work is even harder, so if you really enjoy what an artist does, you ought to just be pleased they're popular enough to even be able to do what they do. Even if it means you'll have to wait a bit in order to get your share.

 

[PercyD]

The same issue actually still applies?
If this person has a substantial amount of cash, and is going around paying everyones rent, thats not a problem.

There are *so many other artists* out there. A lot of them BIDING for commissioners, and they have outstanding work. It would be a problem if there was a shortage of artists, or if this was a "creator's market"- i.e, creators can be choosy about the commissions that they take. However, that is not the case.

The simple solution is to go and make a relationship with another artist whos work you like and purchase things from them. Especially someone who is less well known/has more bandwidth to cater to your needs.

If you want to be salty about not getting work from a more popular artist, I guess have at it but... This is really a non-issue.

 

[Mikazuki Marazhu]

Maybe im just blinded by frustration but sometimes I think these people have a genuine mental problem, Seriously, who would so such a thing as to have 100 pics done in a year, most of the same character, that to me is like someone's trying to be a celebrity and throwing their wallet at it.

That's a terrible way to judge people.

 

[Krisztina]

*shrug*
Not going to waste any more of my time trying to explain what I'm talking about, since people seem to think this is directed at being "salty" over losing a bid. I'm not. I've only gotten involved in bidding twice, its not something I do. Had nothing to do with losing bids or YCH's since most of the time I'm not even involved in the auction. was just commenting on the subject from the sidelines.

guess the majority in the opposite camp. no harm no foul

 

[Krisztina]

That's a terrible way to judge people.

Regardless of your opinion, Something is not right with a person that behaves that way.

"An almost jealous obsession with winning every auction they lay their eyes on"

 

[PercyD]

*shrug*
Not going to waste any more of my time trying to explain what I'm talking about, since people seem to think this is directed at being "salty" over losing a bid. I'm not. I've only gotten involved in bidding twice, its not something I do. Had nothing to do with losing bids or YCH's since most of the time I'm not even involved in the auction. was just commenting on the subject from the sidelines.

guess the majority in the opposite camp. no harm no foul

Its not even a thing of being in an opposite camp.
I just don't exactly see how this is an issue considering that:

1. There is no shortage of art or artists to choose from
2. You can always talk to the artist about getting a commission from them outside of the bid

Also, accusing people of having a "mental problem" is very ableist. It's also mean spirited, just because you (hypothetically) cannot outbid them.
So yes. There is a foul being played here.

 

[Yakamaru]

From an artists' perspective, it's a business if they are making a living on their art. Even if they don't make a living from it they can still consider it a business. If it's a returning customer, all the better, as it allows for some sort of positive relationship going on.

There's a TON of artists out there that doesn't do YCH's, or do them rarely. No one is forcing you to go after YCH's.

And I find it a tad insulting to say the people who spend more money than you on art as having a mental problem.

I spend quite a bit on art too, so I guess I have a "mental problem" as well? Quite frankly I'll take that as a compliment. <3

 

[KILL.MAIM.KILL]

Mm. BF was complaining about someone like this recently.
It's okay if they buy a ton of stuff and stick to their purchase. What isn't okay is using artists as a human piggy bank, spending absurd amounts on commissions only to demand a full refund later down the line.

 

[PercyD]

Mm. BF was complaining about someone like this recently.
It's okay if they buy a ton of stuff and stick to their purchase. What isn't okay is using artists as a human piggy bank, spending absurd amounts on commissions only to demand a full refund later down the line.

Thats horrible! People do that?

People who pay and dont ask for refunds, thats even more reason to give others preferable treatment!

Its not that weird or uncommon either. In the old days rich people would hire a personal artist to do art for them. Its almost what's happening now but we have patreon to crowd fund artists.

Seriously, just go ask another.

 

[Wulf Canavar]

*shrug*
Not going to waste any more of my time trying to explain what I'm talking about, since people seem to think this is directed at being "salty" over losing a bid. I'm not. I've only gotten involved in bidding twice, its not something I do. Had nothing to do with losing bids or YCH's since most of the time I'm not even involved in the auction. was just commenting on the subject from the sidelines.

guess the majority in the opposite camp. no harm no foul

What is a YCH?

 

[PercyD]

What is a YCH?

Your Character Here-

Artists create a work in progress (WIP) with a pose for your character. People bid on them so they can get art with their character doing the pose. It's really exclusive. I've just started playing around with it, but mine are pretty opened. I can make different images for one pose.

 

[Wulf Canavar]

Your Character Here-

Artists create a work in progress (WIP) with a pose for your character. People bid on them so they can get art with their character doing the pose. It's really exclusive. I've just started playing around with it, but mine are pretty opened. I can make different images for one pose.

Ahhhh, ok. Gotcha. Now I understand why people can take it personal. Especially if it’s for their main character/fursona.

Thanks!

 

[PercyD]

Ahhhh, ok. Gotcha. Now I understand why people can take it personal. Especially if it’s for their main character/fursona.

Thanks!

Yah!
I'm just getting started, so I really don't get why it's something to get upset over if you can just go get regular commission for someone. So many people have commissions opened...

Is this just an issue of *artist* preference? Like some percieved prefered artists that people only want art from them?

 

[Pinky]

I never understood buying a lot of art. I only buy art if I want a new avatar or have a nice idea I can't draw. People should really look into learning how to draw, it'll save a lot of money in the long run.

 

[Mikazuki Marazhu]

This is more of OP's issue.

I never understood buying a lot of art. I only buy art if I want a new avatar or have a nice idea I can't draw. People should really look into learning how to draw, it'll save a lot of money in the long run.

Like me who is too busy working a 10 hour job can't find the time to draw would make it up by commissioning alot

 

[KimberVaile]

I guess I can understand if you really want art from a particular artist and you keep losing out to the same person, ti could be pretty annoying. Though, I'm not going to judge the guy for it. It's something that makes him happy, and I can respect that, even if he keeps getting all the YCHS. Which I admit, could certainly be irritating.

 

[zenmaldita]

Because these individuals will buy 6, 10, 15 pieces a month and spend $2000, $3000 like it's no object. and these people often have pieces of the same character in the triple digits.

What's people's opinion on this? Is it something out of control that shouldn't be able to be abused to the degree it is . Or is it something "poor" people just have to suck up and get over?

*To be clear, I am specifically referring to people who have completely gone off the deep end, buying 10-15 pieces in a month all for the same character, and almost jealously getting into bidding wars with anyone who challenges their chance at a piece she or he wants*

kindly redirect me to these people as I need money to pay my colorist, my writer, and my editor

love,
zen, who's currently dsesperate to finish her comic deadline

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on topic: mm well, if you must contact someone, contact the artist. There's no harm in asking. Tell them you'll wait, if only you could just get a slot cos you've been waiting for months. Just be honest and I'm sure they'll understand.

 

[PercyD]

kindly redirect me to these people as I need money to pay my colorist, my writer, and my editor

love,
zen, who's currently dsesperate to finish her comic deadline

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on topic: mm well, if you must contact someone, contact the artist. There's no harm in asking. Tell them you'll wait, if only you could just get a slot cos you've been waiting for months. Just be honest and I'm sure they'll understand.

Lol, saaaame.