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oCe

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I think the people calling foul because the account in question 'never actively harassed anybody' are missing the bigger picture. The very username was kind of an obvious tool for harassment. Can I blame the admins for removing an account if they deem the username 'offensive?' Nope. It's the same as if you created an account and named it [insert popular artist name here]-is-a-douche or PreyfarSucksBalls... y'think that's going to last?

As somebody else pointed out, there are already forums here where people go asking for critique. From what I've seen, most of these threads go unnoticed. Why is this? Energy would be better spent offering critique to those who actually want it, but it seems that the real appeal of this approach is that it pisses people off, not that it helps them to improve.

And finally, I'm sure there are tons of people out there with second accounts so they can "watch bad porn" without contaminating their regular upload stream. There should be no problem with doing so, as the nature of FA is such that pretty much -every- regular viewer needs an account, not -just- artists. Thing is, most people with an extra account are probably smart enough to name them things like puffywuffy or wlk77842. So instead of angry people with pitchforks showing up at their page, they'll just get a big pile of shouts reading "thnx 4 the watch". And there's no harm done on either end.
 

Arshes Nei

Masticates in Public
oCe said:
As somebody else pointed out, there are already forums here where people go asking for critique. From what I've seen, most of these threads go unnoticed. Why is this? Energy would be better spent offering critique to those who actually want it, but it seems that the real appeal of this approach is that it pisses people off, not that it helps them to improve.

Kinda jumping on this, Remember YNA (still exists of course) but that was the whole purpose of the site and with the exception of fanart you could pretty much post the same illustrations and (writings?) on there as you could with FA.

Critiques take a lot of effort. I'd do more but I get burned out being the same person doing most of them, giving redlines and tips. I also hate repeating the same advice when people ask for places to look for reference, and there's a sticky thread on that very forum for tutorials.

I need to work on my own works too. So it really does irk me that people use hallofshame as a thing about people needing to give critiques. When I doubt anyone who knew or had anything to do with that account ever bothered with the critique forum here.

It's nice to read you're "Starting an account/group" but already people are asking for critiques here, on the forums. Hell there are PLENTY of places to get critiques online. Why not put some money where the mouth is?
 
Arshes Nei said:
oCe said:
As somebody else pointed out, there are already forums here where people go asking for critique. From what I've seen, most of these threads go unnoticed. Why is this? Energy would be better spent offering critique to those who actually want it, but it seems that the real appeal of this approach is that it pisses people off, not that it helps them to improve.

Kinda jumping on this, Remember YNA (still exists of course) but that was the whole purpose of the site and with the exception of fanart you could pretty much post the same illustrations and (writings?) on there as you could with FA.

Critiques take a lot of effort. I'd do more but I get burned out being the same person doing most of them, giving redlines and tips. I also hate repeating the same advice when people ask for places to look for reference, and there's a sticky thread on that very forum for tutorials.

I need to work on my own works too. So it really does irk me that people use hallofshame as a thing about people needing to give critiques. When I doubt anyone who knew or had anything to do with that account ever bothered with the critique forum here.

It's nice to read you're "Starting an account/group" but already people are asking for critiques here, on the forums. Hell there are PLENTY of places to get critiques online. Why not put some money where the mouth is?


Because contributing to existing threads doesn't put you in the position of power that starting your own group (that you moderate) would?
 

Arshes Nei

Masticates in Public
No one would want to be in that group if you don't have a good track record of helping out to begin with. Position of power is kind of useless if people don't want to join. There will be a few at first for interest but after that I kinda doubt there will be real longterm investment in it regardless of who is in charge.
 
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TakeWalker

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Arshes Nei said:
Critiques take a lot of effort. I'd do more but I get burned out being the same person doing most of them, giving redlines and tips. I also hate repeating the same advice when people ask for places to look for reference, and there's a sticky thread on that very forum for tutorials.

This. The fewer people doing critiques, the less those involved actually want to do them. Burnout is a serious issue with this. That's why I haven't read a damn thing over the last three weeks.
 

astolpho

New Member
haha what a retarded idea for a FA account. have you guys ever noticed that the jokers that seem to like to create these point-and-laugh teen girl squad communities most never seem to have much going for them in the talent department themselves?

this is why fat people should not be allowed to use the internet.
 

Zentio

Fluffy Bunbutts
astolpho said:
haha what a retarded idea for a FA account. have you guys ever noticed that the jokers that seem to like to create these point-and-laugh teen girl squad communities most never seem to have much going for them in the talent department themselves?

this is why fat people should not be allowed to use the internet.

:roll:
 

Touch My Badger

New Member
2ndVenus said:
News flash, he is a cartoon artist and doesnt need to improve.


No, he does. I've never seen his artwork and I can tell you he needs to improve.

How can I make such a statement? Because once you stop striving to better your artistic abilities, you stop being an artist. EVERYONE needs to improve somehow. That's how I see it, anyway. Art is a reflection of life. It grows, it changes, it moves. Whether it be a quick little cartoon doodle or a painstakingly accurate mural, there is ALWAYS improvements to be made. If there's not, then the art, the artist's reflection of some aspect of life, grows cold, dead and stagnant. It dies.
 
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