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Perceptions of the fandom from non-furrys positive or negative

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lupi900

Guest
Never had any problem if anything I've had two non-furs argee that the haters are just trash. Like one that cringed at that a SA has rule section where they go on how. Asking nearly 30$ for full forum account & then banning you for being furry is not a rip off.
 

WolfNightV4X1

King of Kawaii; That Token Femboy
I think most "normies" who are out of nerd culture loop dont get it, much less have negative reactions.

Outsiders who stumble into it by seeing one off art like weird yiff or sexualizaed pieces might be turned off.

Other fanbases like anime, nerd, gamer, general nerdity may be anywhere from hostile to neutral. Hostile, because they perceive the furry fandom as lascivious and crude, including all of the awful content and animal-based sexuality. Besides that, they wish to view other subcultures as lower tier or below their own hobbies and interests. However, most people who are in the art communities or other nerd subculture seem to see it as just that. Just another way to express a widely used concept. Non-furry artist will probably end up drawing an animal character from time to time anyways. I think those people have the expectation that it's going to be just like any other interest in art or creative concepts.


TL;DR Pretty neutral overall



Not that I go around parading my interests because people dont seem to care about what I like anyways :D
 

DarkMeW

Active Member
As someone that has been around the fandom for decades I would say it's a mix of both positive and negative for the fandom. I've drawn anthro art and created various anthropomorphic stories since I was little. I didn't know that there was a furry fandom until some one mentioned one of my early drawings looked like a furry. So I found some newsgroups that had furry artists on it. Although I never had any impulse to claim my art or myself as part of the furry fandom I found a lot of the artists and people involved very excepting and kind, a lot more then other groups of artists or people.

On the negative side of it I have never found any group of people more drama prone then in the furry fandom. It's not surprising in fact, since a lot of the fandom is about personal identity that doesn't fit into the normal sandwich most people are use to consuming. So personal and external negativity would have a tendency to accumulate or focus. There's a lot of contributing factors involved in this, that put together a fairly negative view of the fandom in a lot of people. I could go into extremely long depth into this, but I would rather write a chapter in my book then a chapter on various reasons people can't get along. Plus it's a fruitless endeavor, because no madder how rational or thought out your points are on the subject people will fight and argue it tooth and claw on it, even if they actually agree with what you were saying. Done it before, and it's a waste of time.

The other side is the sexuality of it, which is both positive and negative, and changes constantly. Despite what some might refute to or refuse to acknowledge the furry fandom is overwhelmingly more about sexuality then almost any other fandom that isn't a fandom about sex, or type of interpretation of a sexual act/desire specifically. Again not surprising for a multitude of reasons. One of which is there's way more openness about sexuality and acceptance of it in the fandom. It again gets mixed in with the concept of identity, which can be a volatile subject for a million different reasons, and often attract people that don't understand it or like it, and therefore become easily overly hostile to it. Personally I'm not a sexual person, but I don't have a problem with people that are, as long as it's not forced or in the areas of "intent to harm others." However, I find the constant barrage of sexually explicit material very tiresome at times, mainly because I'm not into sexuality in general, even though I appreciate the artistic talent involved in a lot of the art.
 

Activoid

Ace Artist
Pretty much all the negative stigma that society associates with their definition of furry is why I don't identify as a furry myself.
I like drawing anthro animals and monsters, I like looking at anthro animals and monsters, some fursuits are really cool and impressive from an artistic standpoint, and for a lot of people that's enough criteria to classify one's self as a furry, but I just can't bring myself to actually identify as a furry. I just don't really have the passion for it that a lot of people do. I'm just a fan. I like it. That's it.

I see a lot of negative, though sometimes earned, hatred and apprehension towards the fandom as a whole, which of course I shrug off because it's not my business what other people choose to like and dislike. I used to be a pretty avid fur-hater myself, and had a boyfriend who was an avid fur-hater, and we had a great time hating on things together. Ranting and hating was always a fun time. But that was a long time ago, and before I got to know individual people within the fandom a little more, and learned that not everyone likes yiff, and even if they do it's none of my business what goes on in someone's bedroom.

Right now, all I know is that I'm here, I'm happy, and I've met a lot of cool people and I can't bring myself to hate the fandom as a whole anymore. But I also can't blame other people if they do, because that's their choice.
 

WolfNightV4X1

King of Kawaii; That Token Femboy
I found a lot of the artists and people involved very excepting and kind, a lot more then other groups of artists or people.

because no madder how rational or thought out your points are on the subject people will fight and argue it tooth and claw on it, even if they actually agree with what you were saying. the furry fandom is overwhelmingly more about sexuality then almost any other fandom that isn't a fandom about sex, or type of interpretation of a sexual act/desire specifically. Again not surprising for a multitude of reasons. One of which is there's way more openness about sexuality and acceptance of it in the fandom. It again gets mixed in with the concept of identity, which can be a volatile subject for a million different reasons, and often attract people that don't understand it or like it, and therefore become easily overly hostile to it. Personally I'm not a sexual person, but I don't have a problem with people that are, as long as it's not forced or in the areas of "intent to harm others." However, I find the constant barrage of sexually explicit material very tiresome at times, mainly because I'm not into sexuality in general, even though I appreciate the artistic talent involved in a lot of the art.

A few things (grammar nazi me has to point those out)

*accepting, because excepting changes the meaning entirely :v

*matter


Also, regarding sexuality, anime fandoms are huuuuge into sexuality. Hentail, ecchi, doujinshi, yaoi, yuri, etc. are some staple examples. Many animes, being PG-13 and up, are overly sexualized. In fact, the hyper sexualization of anime tends to be a turn off to most people who dont understand anime.

The furry fandom does have the identity aspect, which is obviously because people want to live vicariously through their character, as a form of escapism and wish fulfillment, and because people are sexual this in turn leads to sexual furries. Anime is usually about OTHER characters, mainly like watching porn rather than pretending to be you IN the porn (Though in a sense when most people watch porn their interest is often expressed in wanting to in some way see themself as the person receiving the action they see)


So on that note, I'd say even if it's commonplace and for a different reason furries are not the only fanbase geared towards sexuality
 

DarkMeW

Active Member
Also, regarding sexuality, anime fandoms are huuuuge into sexuality. Hentail, ecchi, doujinshi, yaoi, yuri, etc. are some staple examples. Many animes, being PG-13 and up, are overly sexualized. In fact, the hyper sexualization of anime tends to be a turn off to most people who dont understand anime.

The furry fandom does have the identity aspect, which is obviously because people want to live vicariously through their character, as a form of escapism and wish fulfillment, and because people are sexual this in turn leads to sexual furries. Anime is usually about OTHER characters, mainly like watching porn rather than pretending to be you IN the porn (Though in a sense when most people watch porn their interest is often expressed in wanting to in some way see themself as the person receiving the action they see)


So on that note, I'd say even if it's commonplace and for a different reason furries are not the only fanbase geared towards sexuality

There's a difference between the voyeuristic tendencies of porn in fandoms such as anime, and the use of a fandom to create one's self identity through it. Although there's a few people that take it a step further then just being a fan of say Naruto and base their lifestyle on the concept that they are a ninja, that's a rarer occurrence then in the furry fandom (that they identify as a furry species, not a ninja, although I'm sure there's a few that might be furry ninjas.) Which also brings me to the point I made about it being overwhelming more about sexuality then most other fandoms. This is partly due to the nature of the furry fandom itself. Which is a smaller subset fandom then say anime. Anime splits itself into hentail, ecchi, doujinshi, yaoi, yuri as a special interest or focus market of the Anime fandom. At no point are those markets or subsets used to self identify beyond simple personal interest. Furry is often used beyond that scope far more then in other fandoms, however furry is a subset fandom or a collection of various subset fandoms making it a smaller focused fan base then say anime. Which is one of the contributing factors to it being overwhelmingly about sex, simply because it is a focused in smaller group that often accumulates other interests or fetishes into itself (often due to it being about self identity) rather then creating other markets or subset fan bases. So there isn't the market or numbers to change various interests (including sexualized ones) in the furry scope from part or interests within the furry fandom, to the creation of other sub set fandoms.

I had no statement about it just being about sex or it being the only fanbase geared towards sex, just that it's overwhelmingly more about sex, other then the fandoms that weren't created just about sex. At no point does my statement mean there isn't a multitude of other interests that are not sexualized or fetishized in the fandom, but it's just a matter of the quantity of it due to the structures that created the fandom to begin with that makes it more overwhelmingly about it.
 
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RivendellWolf

Guest
I don't get the impression that the furry fandom is "overwhelmingly" about sex. Its undeniable that sex is a part of some peoples' involvement in the fandom, but I don't see them as being a majority. I did a lot of research before becoming more involved in the fandom and actually ordering a fursuit. I've been furry since I was a kid, but I was wary about getting deeply involved in something that might just be a bunch of pervs. I came to the conclusion that the sexual aspect can be ignored by those of us who are uninterested in it. I think we need to educate people about the fandom and try to dispel the rumors and hate whenever we can. Having furries out front setting a good example is a part of that. When I decided to become active in the fandom, I wanted to contribute something positive, rather than just saying "look, I'm a furry now". Once my suit arrives, I plan on launching a YouTube channel focusing on building a positive image of furries. I know that one YouTube channel isn't going to change the world, but putting out content that shows people that many of us are just about innocent fun will hopefully do some good. I've never experienced any furry hate personally because I'm still a "closet furry". I'll probably tell some close family members eventually, and I know they won't care.
 

WolfNightV4X1

King of Kawaii; That Token Femboy
I don't get the impression that the furry fandom is "overwhelmingly" about sex. Its undeniable that sex is a part of some peoples' involvement in the fandom, but I don't see them as being a majority. I did a lot of research before becoming more involved in the fandom and actually ordering a fursuit. I've been furry since I was a kid, but I was wary about getting deeply involved in something that might just be a bunch of pervs. I came to the conclusion that the sexual aspect can be ignored by those of us who are uninterested in it. I think we need to educate people about the fandom and try to dispel the rumors and hate whenever we can. Having furries out front setting a good example is a part of that. When I decided to become active in the fandom, I wanted to contribute something positive, rather than just saying "look, I'm a furry now". Once my suit arrives, I plan on launching a YouTube channel focusing on building a positive image of furries. I know that one YouTube channel isn't going to change the world, but putting out content that shows people that many of us are just about innocent fun will hopefully do some good. I've never experienced any furry hate personally because I'm still a "closet furry". I'll probably tell some close family members eventually, and I know they won't care.


...or you'll end up on cringe channels for wearing a fursuit :v

Hah, no but really good on you for having fun with it and doing something creative and entertaining.
 

Dmc10398

Goodspeed, bootlegger, B-17 pilot extraordinaire
I don't get the impression that the furry fandom is "overwhelmingly" about sex. Its undeniable that sex is a part of some peoples' involvement in the fandom, but I don't see them as being a majority. I did a lot of research before becoming more involved in the fandom and actually ordering a fursuit. I've been furry since I was a kid, but I was wary about getting deeply involved in something that might just be a bunch of pervs. I came to the conclusion that the sexual aspect can be ignored by those of us who are uninterested in it. I think we need to educate people about the fandom and try to dispel the rumors and hate whenever we can. Having furries out front setting a good example is a part of that. When I decided to become active in the fandom, I wanted to contribute something positive, rather than just saying "look, I'm a furry now". Once my suit arrives, I plan on launching a YouTube channel focusing on building a positive image of furries. I know that one YouTube channel isn't going to change the world, but putting out content that shows people that many of us are just about innocent fun will hopefully do some good. I've never experienced any furry hate personally because I'm still a "closet furry". I'll probably tell some close family members eventually, and I know they won't care.

Hey I think that's great, if you have the time, money and skill set go for it. As a fandom I don't think we have enough positive ambassadors-spokesman to help offset peoples negative perception.
 
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RivendellWolf

Guest
Hey I think that's great, if you have the time, money and skill set go for it. As a fandom I don't think we have enough positive ambassadors-spokesman to help offset peoples negative perception.
Thanks, I'll do my best. Not sure how successful I'll be with it, but I'm going to put a lot of my spare time into my channel. BTW, that's awesome that you have a DeLorean! I remember trying to convince my Dad to buy a used one in the mid-80s. I think they wanted $16,000!
 

Dmc10398

Goodspeed, bootlegger, B-17 pilot extraordinaire
Thanks, he should have done it, Delorean's were at a all time low back then now a days you're looking at mid 30's for anything drivable. I'm really looking forward to taking 0398 and my new fur-suit to a con.
 

DarkMeW

Active Member
I don't get the impression that the furry fandom is "overwhelmingly" about sex.

Well I'd added the qualifier in my sentence "more" when saying "overwhelmingly more about sex" rather then saying it's "overwhelmingly about sex" for a reason. "Overwhelmingly about sex" would change the meaning to a deeper concentration about sex then I think it deserves.

Btw, good luck on your You Tube channel.
 

Dmc10398

Goodspeed, bootlegger, B-17 pilot extraordinaire
Well I'd added the qualifier in my sentence "more" when saying "overwhelmingly more about sex" rather then saying it's "overwhelmingly about sex" for a reason. "Overwhelmingly about sex" would change the meaning to a deeper concentration about sex then I think it deserves.

Btw, good luck on your You Tube channel.

Yep DarkmeW I think you hit the nail right on the head, it's all a matter of degree. We shouldn't try to make the impression that the fandom doesn't have anything to do with sex but that it's not all about or overwhelmingly about it.
 

JustSomeDude84

Active Member
I was told by my mom and brother that the furry fandom was bestiality.
People take this view from bad examples that plague communities in general. For instance, when John Wayne Gacy made the news for his sadistic crimes while working as a professional clown, a lot of negative associations emerged regarding clowns as killers and child molesters. Communities need to crack down when they see this criminal behavior because ignoring it will hurt the community's image and prevent justice from being served. Animal abuse is sick and twisted.
 
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RivendellWolf

Guest
People take this view from bad examples that plague communities in general. For instance, when John Wayne Gacy made the news for his sadistic crimes while working as a professional clown, a lot of negative associations emerged regarding clowns as killers and child molesters. Communities need to crack down when they see this criminal behavior because ignoring it will hurt the community's image and prevent justice from being served. Animal abuse is sick and twisted.
Yes! I've also used the John Wayne Gacy comparison for the stupid stereotypes that get associated with the furry fandom. An extreme comparison, yes-but do we really deserve to be labeled by the bad behavior of a few on the fringes? I think not.
 

GreenZone

Banned
Banned
well i guess i had my first experience

on that thing i was just on i was looking at furry art on my phone and some one caught me and said

"greenzone are you having thoughts of being a furry?"

"no... i was just looking at this art its pretty goo-"

guy who caught me: *cocks rifle loaded with blanks*

like he was joking it really wasn't as tense as it looked but still
 
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modfox

Guest
me: joins Garrys mod casual Sandbox server
Other player: "dude what's with the Furry Steam PfP?"
Me: "just found it on the internet" (I didn't it was drawn for me)
Other player: Shut up furfag. lets troll him
Me: so you just presume I am a furry *gets kicked for no reason*
(true story btw)
 

Dmc10398

Goodspeed, bootlegger, B-17 pilot extraordinaire
well i guess i had my first experience

on that thing i was just on i was looking at furry art on my phone and some one caught me and said

"greenzone are you having thoughts of being a furry?"

"no... i was just looking at this art its pretty goo-"

guy who caught me: *cocks rifle loaded with blanks*

like he was joking it really wasn't as tense as it looked but still

Yeah soldiers from time immemorial plus the world over just tend to have very dark sense of humor.
But something I've found from almost all of the comments on this thread is that 99 percent of us need to keep our love of this fandom secret or at least very low-key. Which is really a shame but I guess that's why furs seem to enjoy cons so much
 
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RandomNinja11

Meme King
me: joins Garrys mod casual Sandbox server
Other player: "dude what's with the Furry Steam PfP?"
Me: "just found it on the internet" (I didn't it was drawn for me)
Other player: Shut up furfag. lets troll him
Me: so you just presume I am a furry *gets kicked for no reason*
(true story btw)
tfw u get trolled by the admins
Only time i've trolled someone as an admin was when my friend got head admin, I congratulated him, banned him for 69 years then immediately unbanned him and told him "get coup d'etat'd, bitch - btw ur unbanned get rekt xddddddd"

Thanks for your service
Every time I see someone thank someone for their service, I laugh now because one time at Kaiserslautern Military Base my friend in JROTC (high school class) was in his uniform and someone walked up and thanked him for his service. Not only was that person on a military base but she thanked someone who's shoulder said "HIGH SCHOOL AFJROTC". I mean - boi, if you're thanking people for their service on a military base, you're gonna be thanking way too many to count.
 
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lupi900

Guest
But something I've found from almost all of the comments on this thread is that 99 percent of us need to keep our love of this fandom secret or at least very low-key. Which is really a shame but I guess that's why furs seem to enjoy cons so much

Why should we have to gave a shit what immature ingrates think of us?. They can't argue a point without making stuff up, cry when they get same treatment & think there the judge of what we can or can't like. I had pal's do the same with my music tastes untill i gave up being with them.
 

Dmc10398

Goodspeed, bootlegger, B-17 pilot extraordinaire
Why should we have to gave a shit what immature ingrates think of us?. They can't argue a point without making stuff up, cry when they get same treatment & think there the judge of what we can or can't like. I had pal's do the same with my music tastes untill i gave up being with them.

Oh yeah I get what you're saying and 0.00 fucks given about what Joe blow public thinks of us. I was just odeserving unlike a lot of other fandom's most furs can't or won't even admit being in it, at least in public.

Using myself as a example I must have at least half a dozen Star Trek shirts and as many Star Wars but not one furry anything outside of my fur-suit.

So maybe I am more concerned about outside opinion then I initially thought or maybe it just a matter of privacy...??
 
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GreenZone

Banned
Banned
Oh yeah I get what you're saying and 0.00 fucks given about what Joe blow public thinks of us. I was just odeserving unlike a lot of other fandom's most furs can't or won't even admit being in it, at least in public.

Using myself as a example I must have at least half a dozen Star Trek shirts and as many Star Wars but not one furry anything outside of my fur-suit.

So maybe I am more concerned about outside opinion then I initially thought or maybe it just a matter of privacy...??

but like... a lot of the furry stereotypes are true...

my time in the fandom ive found that you guys just ignore these people and act like they dont exsist
 

Dmc10398

Goodspeed, bootlegger, B-17 pilot extraordinaire
but like... a lot of the furry stereotypes are true...

my time in the fandom ive found that you guys just ignore these people and act like they dont exsist

I would have to know which stereotypes you're talking about to address that issue. But unfortunately that's the thing with stereotypes usually they have at least a kernel of truth to them.

Also what do you mean "you guys"... not us, we etc etc ?? :confused:
 
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