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Political Ideologies

Hydra

Hydra

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As an American, I think one of the biggest failings of our Constitution is that it practically enshrines the two-party system by mandating the use of winner-take-all first-past-the-post elections. So instead of joining up with a party that really matches your ideals your choices are limited to not joining at all and having no say whatsoever aside from a simple "This guy or that guy" or joining the party that annoys you the least and helping your faction (which is just one of many) try to steer policy inside a larger party in the direction you want.
 
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DrDingo

DrDingo

Moved to phoenix.corvidae.org with the others
In terms of politics, I am a pretty liberal thinker. So my vote would probably go to Labour (when I reach the voting age). If I lived in the USA, I would vote Democrat.
 
Grimfang999

Grimfang999

Member
I mainly went in regards to things like socialism, comunism, conservativism and such, not party, I agree with Hydra in that First Past the Post "democracy" limits choice of represented ideologies, where in Britain we have three strands of liberalism as the three main parties (conservatives=classical liberal, labour=neo-liberal, lib dems=modern liberals) while in America they have the democrats as a disorganised mess and the conservatives as libertarians.

@Saliva: Yes, thats partof the beauty of politics >:3

Political debate is good for the soul and for society anyway.
 
PsychicOtter

PsychicOtter

Otter Missionary
I have liberal beliefs, by American standards (but apparently that's right-center by UK standards). I'm not super far-left, but I'm a strong democrat.
Also, this thread is going to get very ugly very quickly.
 
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Grimfang999

Grimfang999

Member
Hmm so far most people are just talking about shitstorms or taking moderate stances.... I need to set this timebomb off.


Im an anarcho-communist.
 
Kosdu

Kosdu

Member
I believe in humility and a realistic view based on it's effect on people.

No arrogance from race, religion, culture, and especially not patriotism. I suppose it has it's place but any thing that tells me one person is worth more than another due to one being a part of something or having pride in it has simply no place in any sort of decision making.

If one were to simply realize that all are indeed human, that all are rational beings deserving of life, love, and (a certain level of) respect, plagued by issues and poor decisions, then why would one use hate and pride to excuse atrocities?

This ties in with aikidō, even helping one attacking you by doing no terrible damage. Who am I to so punish one for a poor decision?


Simply put, I do not hold myself over others and to do such is asking for trouble.
 
Dr_pyro

Dr_pyro

Nico
Grimfang999 said:
Hmm so far most people are just talking about shitstorms or taking moderate stances.... I need to set this timebomb off.


Im an anarcho-communist.
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so.... you claim to be against government as well as capitalism. The ideology is contradictory in that it portends to be against authority and force.
A follower of anarcho-communism is often called an "oxymoron"
were is the order in no government?? i dont mean to hate. but still..
 
PsychicOtter

PsychicOtter

Otter Missionary
So if I'm your run-of-the-mill US Democrat (perhaps slightly more liberal than that), would that put me on the right-hand side of the Labour Party in the UK?
 
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Grimfang999

Grimfang999

Member
Well actually I lied... kind of. I support that as my ultimatum for humanity, as in I believe that we will reach a point where neither are required. I do not believe it will happen at anytime soon, especially not through revolution. I am in the short term more anti-capitalist, or rather against the exploitation, environmental destruction, and political paths that capitalism will go down. Since fossil fuels are finite but also cheaper than other power sources, unless science can advance it will destroy itself, but probably long after the planet is ruined and global warming is too rapidly developing to stop. Then theres how capitalism inevitably aims for monopolies, ad if a company becomes too powerful for any government to control, and controls the majority of the worlds industries and resources, due to then living in high wealth high power culture, they will likely simply become an economic dictatorship.

Really, I am more of a deliberative socialist. I believe in the nationalisation of the major necessary industries such as health, edcation, energy, and so forth, while the public sector also has some profitable industries to counterbalance the costs of the necessary industries, either acting as competition to other companies to maintain efficiency or providing supply to smaller companies. Meanwhile, eductaion into politics (particularly ideology) is improved and allowed debate in class to increase political understanding and participation, which on the long term should diversify the political ideals of the people and create a government which represents a wider range of beliefs.

In terms of revolution, I believe it should be a rational choice by the majority of a society, and if thats the case I will support it.

Ah yes, and Dr. Pyro, its not contradictory at all, how would it be?
 
PastryOfApathy

PastryOfApathy

Well-Known Member
Can a mod lock this thread? I mean as a preventive measure because there isn't a chance in hell this thread will end up anything but mind-bogglingly horrible.
 
Grimfang999

Grimfang999

Member
Locking a thread pre-emptively is silly, let it run but if it starts getting too personal then fine. But if any chance of there being heated debate is considered "horrible" in your eyes, then dont take part.
 
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