Predators and Prey

[A Minty cheetah]

Which kind of witch does this witch hunt concern? I'm alright with hunting sand-witches, myself oh my goodness that was awful

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Yes! Embrace the pun!!!!!
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[DRGN Juno]

So in between classes and attempting to resurrect the smouldering remains of my PC, I've completely missed today's quota of FACTS and KNAWLIDGE.

So in 1949, Avro Canada's C102 Jetliner became the second jet airliner in the world to take flight, trailing the De Havilland Comet by a matter of days. So why don't we have any Avro Canada airliners or any direct descendants to the C102? Well, the short answer is that it was never really a priority project, being glossed over in favour of other current developments, like the CF-100 Canuck. And just when it seemed like the Canuck was on its way and the jetliner would finally get some attention, the Cold War came about and once more, it was all hands on deck for the CF-105 Arrow. Also, the landing gear managed to get jammed on its second flight and forced a belly landing, which really didn't do it any favours.

Nevertheless Howard Hughes of Spruce Goose fame found himself interested, and insisted on ordering 30 examples for Trans-World Airlines (TWA). I cannot overstate how important this would have been. TWA was the face of air travel at the time, serving Europe, Asia, and the Middle East in a time when most carriers couldn't even get across the continental US. This would have made the Jetliner a household name like the Comet (and even for reasons not relating to mid-air breakups, which is more than De Havilland could claim), but the company's limited production capacity and focus on the CF-100 meant they had to turn Hughes down. Hughes, presumably after multiple sessions of shouting "shut up and take my money" at Avro executives, decided to forgo the Jetliner altogether. Avro Canada suddenly found themselves going from selling over capacity to having nobody willing to bite. The program would go on and off again between 1949 and 1951, and almost got rebooted in 1953 when CF-100 production was finally happening and designers could focus their attention back to the C102.

Needless to say, this didn't happen. The start of the Arrow meant all hands on deck once more, and the eventual canning of the Arrow in 1959 meant Avro couldn't revive the dated Jetliner project, even with all the time in the world. Avro Canada would go on to design a couple of novelties like the Avrocar to try and stay relevant, but the company would be defunct by 1962. The Jetliner program ended with one flying prototype (CF-EJD-X), and a second that was broken up mid-build when the program was shuttered. The prototype was donated as surplus to the National Research Centre, who had no space for an entire airliner and broke it up for scrap. Today, the cockpit is the only surviving component of the C102, residing in Ottawa's Aviation and Space Museum.

Perhaps if it had been the first and flown 13 days earlier, things would have been different.

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@bkk1, a correction about LOT 16, this was the first jet airliner to successfully do a belly landing.

 

[Skittles]

That. That actually sounds like a good combo...!
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Inorite?

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[A Minty cheetah]

*eats an ice cream sandwich*
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[Tallow_Phoenix]

*eats too much rice*

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[DRGN Juno]

*eats an ice cream sandwich*
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Any more you'd like to share with the class?

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Y'know, since we won and all?

 

[A Minty cheetah]

Any more you'd like to share with the class?

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Y'know, since we won and all?

*bombards the thread with a truckload of ice cream sandwiches*

 

[Skittles]

\0/

 

[Skittles]

So floor -20 is the haunted meatlocker.

 

[Groggy]

*noms an ice cream sandwich, calls the elevator*

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[Pygmepatl]

*Eats an ice cream sandwich from @A Minty cheetah*

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[WXYZ]

Denpa.
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[Groggy]

*considers joining the predator team since I have an unparalleled ability to reset the game when it favours predators most*

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[A Minty cheetah]

[Still with the KFC coupons...]

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[Tallow_Phoenix]

*noms an ice cream sandwich, calls the elevator*

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*sits in frustration as the elevator keeps moving up and down as the occupants mash buttons*

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[DRGN Juno]

*considers joining the predator team since I have an unparalleled ability to reset the game when it favours predators most*

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We all thank you for your service.

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[Tallow_Phoenix]

*slips out of the elevator to raid the concession stand*

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[Pygmepatl]

*considers joining the predator team since I have an unparalleled ability to reset the game when it favours predators most*

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I mean, turtles also eat jellyfish, so you can be a predator.

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[Tallow_Phoenix]

You know, I keep forgetting this thread is called "Predators and Prey" rather than "Predators vs Prey".

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[A Minty cheetah]

I mean, turtles also eat jellyfish, so you can be a predator.

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I wonder if jellyfish are jellofish in the US...
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[Groggy]

[Still with the KFC coupons...]

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*considers changing those KFC coupons to something else*
Suggestions?
Or should I continue to hand out KFC coupons to thine heart's content?

I mean, turtles also eat jellyfish, so you can be a predator.

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Fair.
Not fair enough to fully convince me, but fair.

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[Groggy]

You know, I keep forgetting this thread is called "Predators and Prey" rather than "Predators vs Prey".

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I didn't even realize that until now.

 

[Tallow_Phoenix]

I wonder if jellyfish are jellofish in the US...
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Am American, can confirm.

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[DRGN Juno]

Or should I continue to hand out KFC coupons to thine heart's content?

^This one.

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[Pygmepatl]

Fair.
Not fair enough to fully convince me, but fair.

That's good enough.

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[A Minty cheetah]

R-r-r-recount!
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