Predators and Prey
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Keefur
aka Cutter Cat
It just needs some relaxation time. I took some aspirin. I'm getting too old to do all that load in and load out stuff.
Thrashy
Пу́тин — хуйло́! Слава Україні! FckNzs.
Hey there Keefur
Hope your back gets better soon!
Can't Cutter Cat just swim over there?
Keefur
aka Cutter Cat
Can't Cutter Cat just swim over there?
Water? No thanks. I'll use the Sabertooth Cat-a-pult.
Thrashy
Пу́тин — хуйло́! Слава Україні! FckNzs.
*re-aligns the catapult that you'll land straight in the Haley Reservoir*
Thrashy
Пу́тин — хуйло́! Слава Україні! FckNzs.
Oh the brewery's own Tavern will always have a cold one ready for you
I just got that now xD
Thrashy
Пу́тин — хуйло́! Слава Україні! FckNzs.
I'm rather skinny, but I'd love to be toured around that islandI'm looking for some nice plump tourists to take on a "tour" of the dining hall.
Keefur
aka Cutter Cat
I'm rather skinny, but I'd love to be toured around that island
Great. We're going to have "Skunk Surprise" served for dinner tonight.
Thrashy
Пу́тин — хуйло́! Слава Україні! FckNzs.
Thrashy
Пу́тин — хуйло́! Слава Україні! FckNzs.
Have a good rest
Keefur
aka Cutter Cat
Don't worry... you won't be a cannibal. *snickers*But... I'm no cannibal!
I'll fix some honey lemon pepper wings and fries.
Thrashy
Пу́тин — хуйло́! Слава Україні! FckNzs.
*starts slowly pondering in his drunk brain*
Oh... I think I've forgotten something at home, I REALLY need to go back to Skunk Hollow!
Cosmic-FS
A creature of the night
It's time for your regular dose of architectural facts. This one is a surprise fact for you all and even a surprise for me. I was not planning to post this fact until certain recent events inspired me to. But we'll get to that later, for now let’s talk about the Red Road Flats.
The Red Roads Flats was a housing complex made up of 8 28 and 31 storey towers that housed a total population of 4,700 people. Located in Glasgow, they opened individually between 1966 and 1971. Designed by Sam Bunton & Associates, the towers were, at the time, the tallest such buildings in Europe.
They were also hated. The brutalist style, while loved by architects at the time, was not that well received by the public. They viewed the buildings as cold and lifeless and that the architect was trying to turn Glasgow into Manhattan. People didn’t like the Red Roads Flat. Perhaps this is partially why, in 1977, a fire was started in one of the towers by a group of vandals. This marked a serious decline and the complex soon fell into disrepair. At a time, some of the towers were labeled unsafe for occupation. There was also the problem of asbestos. While this was before the carcinogenic qualities of the insulation was known and before the 1991 ban by the The European Commission, it presented a problem later on when they were trying to figure out what to do with these old buildings.
Red Roads Flats changed hands a couple times and even at one point became housing for refugees from the Kosovo War. It underwent major renovations but nothing could save it. In 2012, demolition of the first tower commenced. Due to the sheer size of the towers, there was only one option for demolition: explosives.
The first block, the 28-floor slab block, was demolished by a controlled explosion on 10 June 2012. The steel structured tower took just six seconds to fall after a series of carefully timed explosions, using 606 pounds (275 kilograms) of explosive, ripped along the building around the sixth to eighth floors. The second block, the 31-floor point block on Birnie Court was demolished on 5 May 2013, taking about four seconds to fall.
For the grand exit of the six remaining towers, the demolition crew arranged for them to be detonated simultaneously. Thousands gathered to watch as the six remaining tower blocks of the historic Red Road flats were razed to the ground. As the dust settled and the two-year clear-up was pondered, it became clear. Two were still partially standing. These two towers were dubbed the “Leaning Towers of Barmulloch”.
When a demolition goes wrong and the building is left standing or partially standing, it is known as a “standup”. It is not really connected to anything through foundation and columns, it’s just sitting on top of the ground with all the anchor points severed. The plan for Red Roads Flats was to blow out a couple floors and let the building collapse under its own weight, which it did at first but then stopped for some reason. Which, when you think about it, is a testimate to some amazing engineering work.
I shouldn’t have to explain to you that this makes the building incredibly unsafe. A standup can not be left standing because it could collapse at any moment. Then again, you can’t go inside it to plant more explosives because IT COULD COLLAPSE AT ANY MOMENT! So the crew responsible for the Red Roads Flats resorted to the best solution they could come up with: approach it from behind and try to tip it over with some excavators.
So, why did it fail? Maybe the demolition crew miscalculated the required explosive yield, or maybe the explosives weren’t installed correctly, or maybe their simulations were wrong. Who knows. In all honesty, I think we may never know. But I also think that’s not the lesson we should learn from this.
It all comes down to one central fact: you can't test explosives. Yes, you can have lab tested data of a particular explosive and predict with great accuracy how it will explode. And you can have detailed plans of a building and its engineering to know its weaknesses. What you can't truly predict is how these two things will interact. Demolition exports can make predictions based on available data or past experience but every building is unique. A building can even differ from its own plans. For instance small changes that had to be made either because the architect did think of everything and the construction crew had to improvise, or things like extra aggregate is introduced in the concrete by mistake that is left undocumented. You can’t know everything, so a surprising amount of explosive demolitions comes down to educated guesses.
The point is: explosive demolition is dangerous and sometimes unpredictable, it should be handled with great respect and precaution. There is a reason these things are planned out years in advance.
Now comes the part where I explain why I decided to write this fact. Well, it all started this morning when I was enjoying a plate of omelette that I had made when, at 7:45am local time, I heard an explosion. This loud boom echoed off the block like rolling thunder and shook my apartment. A nearby office building, which had been slated for demolition for several months, was brought down by explosives … partially.
When I took a walk later that morning to do some shopping, I went by the demo site and saw this:
Here’s another angle from the parking lot of my supermarket:
On the walk home, I was inspired to do some research and share with you all my discoveries. As I type this all out, I can hear the multiple news copter overhead taking videos of the site as civil engineers, fire marshals, structural engineers, demolition crews, architects, construction crew, and city planners all try to figure out what to do now.
Who knows, maybe they’ll do what they did for the Red Road Flats: approach it from behind and try to tip it over. The simplest solutions are often the right one.
The Red Roads Flats was a housing complex made up of 8 28 and 31 storey towers that housed a total population of 4,700 people. Located in Glasgow, they opened individually between 1966 and 1971. Designed by Sam Bunton & Associates, the towers were, at the time, the tallest such buildings in Europe.
They were also hated. The brutalist style, while loved by architects at the time, was not that well received by the public. They viewed the buildings as cold and lifeless and that the architect was trying to turn Glasgow into Manhattan. People didn’t like the Red Roads Flat. Perhaps this is partially why, in 1977, a fire was started in one of the towers by a group of vandals. This marked a serious decline and the complex soon fell into disrepair. At a time, some of the towers were labeled unsafe for occupation. There was also the problem of asbestos. While this was before the carcinogenic qualities of the insulation was known and before the 1991 ban by the The European Commission, it presented a problem later on when they were trying to figure out what to do with these old buildings.
Red Roads Flats changed hands a couple times and even at one point became housing for refugees from the Kosovo War. It underwent major renovations but nothing could save it. In 2012, demolition of the first tower commenced. Due to the sheer size of the towers, there was only one option for demolition: explosives.
The first block, the 28-floor slab block, was demolished by a controlled explosion on 10 June 2012. The steel structured tower took just six seconds to fall after a series of carefully timed explosions, using 606 pounds (275 kilograms) of explosive, ripped along the building around the sixth to eighth floors. The second block, the 31-floor point block on Birnie Court was demolished on 5 May 2013, taking about four seconds to fall.
For the grand exit of the six remaining towers, the demolition crew arranged for them to be detonated simultaneously. Thousands gathered to watch as the six remaining tower blocks of the historic Red Road flats were razed to the ground. As the dust settled and the two-year clear-up was pondered, it became clear. Two were still partially standing. These two towers were dubbed the “Leaning Towers of Barmulloch”.
When a demolition goes wrong and the building is left standing or partially standing, it is known as a “standup”. It is not really connected to anything through foundation and columns, it’s just sitting on top of the ground with all the anchor points severed. The plan for Red Roads Flats was to blow out a couple floors and let the building collapse under its own weight, which it did at first but then stopped for some reason. Which, when you think about it, is a testimate to some amazing engineering work.
I shouldn’t have to explain to you that this makes the building incredibly unsafe. A standup can not be left standing because it could collapse at any moment. Then again, you can’t go inside it to plant more explosives because IT COULD COLLAPSE AT ANY MOMENT! So the crew responsible for the Red Roads Flats resorted to the best solution they could come up with: approach it from behind and try to tip it over with some excavators.
So, why did it fail? Maybe the demolition crew miscalculated the required explosive yield, or maybe the explosives weren’t installed correctly, or maybe their simulations were wrong. Who knows. In all honesty, I think we may never know. But I also think that’s not the lesson we should learn from this.
It all comes down to one central fact: you can't test explosives. Yes, you can have lab tested data of a particular explosive and predict with great accuracy how it will explode. And you can have detailed plans of a building and its engineering to know its weaknesses. What you can't truly predict is how these two things will interact. Demolition exports can make predictions based on available data or past experience but every building is unique. A building can even differ from its own plans. For instance small changes that had to be made either because the architect did think of everything and the construction crew had to improvise, or things like extra aggregate is introduced in the concrete by mistake that is left undocumented. You can’t know everything, so a surprising amount of explosive demolitions comes down to educated guesses.
The point is: explosive demolition is dangerous and sometimes unpredictable, it should be handled with great respect and precaution. There is a reason these things are planned out years in advance.
Now comes the part where I explain why I decided to write this fact. Well, it all started this morning when I was enjoying a plate of omelette that I had made when, at 7:45am local time, I heard an explosion. This loud boom echoed off the block like rolling thunder and shook my apartment. A nearby office building, which had been slated for demolition for several months, was brought down by explosives … partially.
When I took a walk later that morning to do some shopping, I went by the demo site and saw this:
Here’s another angle from the parking lot of my supermarket:
On the walk home, I was inspired to do some research and share with you all my discoveries. As I type this all out, I can hear the multiple news copter overhead taking videos of the site as civil engineers, fire marshals, structural engineers, demolition crews, architects, construction crew, and city planners all try to figure out what to do now.
Who knows, maybe they’ll do what they did for the Red Road Flats: approach it from behind and try to tip it over. The simplest solutions are often the right one.
TR273
Pirate Fox Mom
Poke it with a big stick!It's time for your regular dose of architectural facts. This one is a surprise fact for you all and even a surprise for me. I was not planning to post this fact until certain recent events inspired me to. But we'll get to that later, for now let’s talk about the Red Road Flats.
The Red Roads Flats was a housing complex made up of 8 28 and 31 storey towers that housed a total population of 4,700 people. Located in Glasgow, they opened individually between 1966 and 1971. Designed by Sam Bunton & Associates, the towers were, at the time, the tallest such buildings in Europe.
They were also hated. The brutalist style, while loved by architects at the time, was not that well received by the public. They viewed the buildings as cold and lifeless and that the architect was trying to turn Glasgow into Manhattan. People didn’t like the Red Roads Flat. Perhaps this is partially why, in 1977, a fire was started in one of the towers by a group of vandals. This marked a serious decline and the complex soon fell into disrepair. At a time, some of the towers were labeled unsafe for occupation. There was also the problem of asbestos. While this was before the carcinogenic qualities of the insulation was known and before the 1991 ban by the The European Commission, it presented a problem later on when they were trying to figure out what to do with these old buildings.
Red Roads Flats changed hands a couple times and even at one point became housing for refugees from the Kosovo War. It underwent major renovations but nothing could save it. In 2012, demolition of the first tower commenced. Due to the sheer size of the towers, there was only one option for demolition: explosives.
The first block, the 28-floor slab block, was demolished by a controlled explosion on 10 June 2012. The steel structured tower took just six seconds to fall after a series of carefully timed explosions, using 606 pounds (275 kilograms) of explosive, ripped along the building around the sixth to eighth floors. The second block, the 31-floor point block on Birnie Court was demolished on 5 May 2013, taking about four seconds to fall.
For the grand exit of the six remaining towers, the demolition crew arranged for them to be detonated simultaneously. Thousands gathered to watch as the six remaining tower blocks of the historic Red Road flats were razed to the ground. As the dust settled and the two-year clear-up was pondered, it became clear. Two were still partially standing. These two towers were dubbed the “Leaning Towers of Barmulloch”.
When a demolition goes wrong and the building is left standing or partially standing, it is known as a “standup”. It is not really connected to anything through foundation and columns, it’s just sitting on top of the ground with all the anchor points severed. The plan for Red Roads Flats was to blow out a couple floors and let the building collapse under its own weight, which it did at first but then stopped for some reason. Which, when you think about it, is a testimate to some amazing engineering work.
I shouldn’t have to explain to you that this makes the building incredibly unsafe. A standup can not be left standing because it could collapse at any moment. Then again, you can’t go inside it to plant more explosives because IT COULD COLLAPSE AT ANY MOMENT! So the crew responsible for the Red Roads Flats resorted to the best solution they could come up with: approach it from behind and try to tip it over with some excavators.
So, why did it fail? Maybe the demolition crew miscalculated the required explosive yield, or maybe the explosives weren’t installed correctly, or maybe their simulations were wrong. Who knows. In all honesty, I think we may never know. But I also think that’s not the lesson we should learn from this.
It all comes down to one central fact: you can't test explosives. Yes, you can have lab tested data of a particular explosive and predict with great accuracy how it will explode. And you can have detailed plans of a building and its engineering to know its weaknesses. What you can't truly predict is how these two things will interact. Demolition exports can make predictions based on available data or past experience but every building is unique. A building can even differ from its own plans. For instance small changes that had to be made either because the architect did think of everything and the construction crew had to improvise, or things like extra aggregate is introduced in the concrete by mistake that is left undocumented. You can’t know everything, so a surprising amount of explosive demolitions comes down to educated guesses.
The point is: explosive demolition is dangerous and sometimes unpredictable, it should be handled with great respect and precaution. There is a reason these things are planned out years in advance.
Now comes the part where I explain why I decided to write this fact. Well, it all started this morning when I was enjoying a plate of omelette that I had made when, at 7:45am local time, I heard an explosion. This loud boom echoed off the block like rolling thunder and shook my apartment. A nearby office building, which had been slated for demolition for several months, was brought down by explosives … partially.
When I took a walk later that morning to do some shopping, I went by the demo site and saw this:
Here’s another angle from the parking lot of my supermarket:
On the walk home, I was inspired to do some research and share with you all my discoveries. As I type this all out, I can hear the multiple news copter overhead taking videos of the site as civil engineers, fire marshals, structural engineers, demolition crews, architects, construction crew, and city planners all try to figure out what to do now.
Who knows, maybe they’ll do what they did for the Red Road Flats: approach it from behind and try to tip it over. The simplest solutions are often the right one.
Breyo
Professional Nibbler
Very nice factsIt's time for your regular dose of architectural facts. This one is a surprise fact for you all and even a surprise for me. I was not planning to post this fact until certain recent events inspired me to. But we'll get to that later, for now let’s talk about the Red Road Flats.
The Red Roads Flats was a housing complex made up of 8 28 and 31 storey towers that housed a total population of 4,700 people. Located in Glasgow, they opened individually between 1966 and 1971. Designed by Sam Bunton & Associates, the towers were, at the time, the tallest such buildings in Europe.
They were also hated. The brutalist style, while loved by architects at the time, was not that well received by the public. They viewed the buildings as cold and lifeless and that the architect was trying to turn Glasgow into Manhattan. People didn’t like the Red Roads Flat. Perhaps this is partially why, in 1977, a fire was started in one of the towers by a group of vandals. This marked a serious decline and the complex soon fell into disrepair. At a time, some of the towers were labeled unsafe for occupation. There was also the problem of asbestos. While this was before the carcinogenic qualities of the insulation was known and before the 1991 ban by the The European Commission, it presented a problem later on when they were trying to figure out what to do with these old buildings.
Red Roads Flats changed hands a couple times and even at one point became housing for refugees from the Kosovo War. It underwent major renovations but nothing could save it. In 2012, demolition of the first tower commenced. Due to the sheer size of the towers, there was only one option for demolition: explosives.
The first block, the 28-floor slab block, was demolished by a controlled explosion on 10 June 2012. The steel structured tower took just six seconds to fall after a series of carefully timed explosions, using 606 pounds (275 kilograms) of explosive, ripped along the building around the sixth to eighth floors. The second block, the 31-floor point block on Birnie Court was demolished on 5 May 2013, taking about four seconds to fall.
For the grand exit of the six remaining towers, the demolition crew arranged for them to be detonated simultaneously. Thousands gathered to watch as the six remaining tower blocks of the historic Red Road flats were razed to the ground. As the dust settled and the two-year clear-up was pondered, it became clear. Two were still partially standing. These two towers were dubbed the “Leaning Towers of Barmulloch”.
When a demolition goes wrong and the building is left standing or partially standing, it is known as a “standup”. It is not really connected to anything through foundation and columns, it’s just sitting on top of the ground with all the anchor points severed. The plan for Red Roads Flats was to blow out a couple floors and let the building collapse under its own weight, which it did at first but then stopped for some reason. Which, when you think about it, is a testimate to some amazing engineering work.
I shouldn’t have to explain to you that this makes the building incredibly unsafe. A standup can not be left standing because it could collapse at any moment. Then again, you can’t go inside it to plant more explosives because IT COULD COLLAPSE AT ANY MOMENT! So the crew responsible for the Red Roads Flats resorted to the best solution they could come up with: approach it from behind and try to tip it over with some excavators.
So, why did it fail? Maybe the demolition crew miscalculated the required explosive yield, or maybe the explosives weren’t installed correctly, or maybe their simulations were wrong. Who knows. In all honesty, I think we may never know. But I also think that’s not the lesson we should learn from this.
It all comes down to one central fact: you can't test explosives. Yes, you can have lab tested data of a particular explosive and predict with great accuracy how it will explode. And you can have detailed plans of a building and its engineering to know its weaknesses. What you can't truly predict is how these two things will interact. Demolition exports can make predictions based on available data or past experience but every building is unique. A building can even differ from its own plans. For instance small changes that had to be made either because the architect did think of everything and the construction crew had to improvise, or things like extra aggregate is introduced in the concrete by mistake that is left undocumented. You can’t know everything, so a surprising amount of explosive demolitions comes down to educated guesses.
The point is: explosive demolition is dangerous and sometimes unpredictable, it should be handled with great respect and precaution. There is a reason these things are planned out years in advance.
Now comes the part where I explain why I decided to write this fact. Well, it all started this morning when I was enjoying a plate of omelette that I had made when, at 7:45am local time, I heard an explosion. This loud boom echoed off the block like rolling thunder and shook my apartment. A nearby office building, which had been slated for demolition for several months, was brought down by explosives … partially.
When I took a walk later that morning to do some shopping, I went by the demo site and saw this:
Here’s another angle from the parking lot of my supermarket:
On the walk home, I was inspired to do some research and share with you all my discoveries. As I type this all out, I can hear the multiple news copter overhead taking videos of the site as civil engineers, fire marshals, structural engineers, demolition crews, architects, construction crew, and city planners all try to figure out what to do now.
Who knows, maybe they’ll do what they did for the Red Road Flats: approach it from behind and try to tip it over. The simplest solutions are often the right one.
I don't know much about architecture, so they were pretty interesting!
TR273
Pirate Fox Mom
That's interesting, at around 0:10 there's a small explosion to the bottom right of the picture.