Predators and Prey
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Arishipshape
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I suspect modern art is somewhat like the emperor’s new suit. Everyone pretends they can see deep, rich beauty and meaning in it and you just look bad if you don’t see it so no one calls it out for the junk it is. Except the oblivious (and secretly smarter than everyone else) among us.
TR273
Pirate Fox Mom
Or this.Art is more than the sum of time put in (unless it's modern art).
'Pile O' Bricks.'
I think I've seen the same thing at every builder's yard I've ever been to.
Simo
Professional Watermelon Farmer
I'll ponder this as well. I do like the idea of gathering resources, and having some assorted elements to manage. I tend to like games that have a mixture of mechanisms, so that no one way that it works is overly dominant. So resource management/gathering, with tile-laying/board building/area control elements, and bit of luck with a dice roll might also work, in some or other permutation.
I also need to think about Predators V. Prey in the wild, and how a species in either category is successful.
There are three aspects, that seem dominant:
1. They are successful at finding food/water.
2. They are successful at reproduction
3. They are successful at adaptation (especially from habitats that were once wilderness, but have over time become urban/suburban: foxes, rats, raccoons, and skunks, all being prime examples)
There is also a somewhat blurry line between predators and prey, and that is namely that a great number of species are in fact omnivores, and these animals tend to be even more successful. In a game, perhaps different animals would have to eat different amounts of food; some might survive on 0% meat, others, might require 100%, many others, somewhere in the middle.
I'll have to make a list of species, perhaps of 8 or 10, and see what I can do in terms of 'traits' for each one, and go from there. But coming up with a board game does sound fun; key is to make it fun, and not too, too complex, but also, not so simple one gets bored with it.
Also key is a good balance, between Preds and Prey: just as in 'games' here, it's seldom as much fun, when it's all of one, and none of the other, on our 'lil skirmishes. : )
Simo
Professional Watermelon Farmer
I like that idea, too: random elements are always fun. Maybe in each turn, a random 'event' card could be drawn, in which one (or all) would have to react to.
Also, in my list, I omitted one big thing!
Predators V. Prey in the wild, and how a species in either category is successful:
Four Aspects:
1. They are successful at finding food/water.
2. They are successful at reproduction
3. They are successful at adaptation (especially from habitats that were once wilderness, but have over time become urban/suburban: foxes, rats, raccoons, and skunks, all being prime examples)
4. They are successful at warding off attacks from other species, through fight, flight, camouflage, &c.
(in ways, I think the game might be adapted into a modified version of the game Stone Age; instead of plain meeples, you'd have 'meeples' of your species, that could gather food, reproduce, would have to eat, gain dexterity...hmmm...much to ponder!)
Cosmic-FS
A creature of the night
Yeah, modern art seems like it's being weird just for the sake of being weird. Like when Marcel Duchamp went to buy some plumbing in 1917 and farted out a "masterwork". (Lightning round art fact!!)
What you are looking at here is an art piece "by" Marcel Duchamp called The Fountain. I use the quotation marks because Duchamp didn't actually make this sculpture. The Fountain is just a plain old ordinary urinal that he found, turned it on its side, and put on a pedestal. The only modification on it is the signature done in sharpie.
It was submitted to the first exhibition of the Society of Independent Artists in New York City, which Duchamp was a board member. The exhibition's organizers touted the show as revolutionary, with a policy of accepting literally everything so long as an instillation fee was paid. As a co-founder of the Society of Independent Artists, Duchamp had helped to get this rule enacted. But he had doubts about how open-minded his fellow artists were. So as a test, he presented a literal piss bucket under the pseudonym R. Mutt, called it art, and dared anyone to reject it. Which they did. One board member was quoted saying:
"The Fountain may be a very useful object in its place, but its place is not in an art exhibition and it is, by no definition, a work of art."
The Fountain was technically accepted by the Society of Independent Artist but it was not displayed in any exhibit, instead it was hidden away in storage. Duchamp didn't like his fellow board member's decision, instead thinking that all art should be accepted and displayed to the public. So he quite the board and the Fountain remained locked away.
But this was not the end of The Fountain however. Sometime later, it was photographed at Alfred Stieglitz's studio and the photo published in the second issue of the The Blind Man, a highly regarded art publication at the time. They heard the story surrounding the Fountain and they called the move a bold stance against art elitists and a challenge to the status of art authorities and their bias for tradition. The Blind Man stated:
"Whether Mr. Mutt with his own hands made the fountain has no importance. He CHOSE it. He took an ordinary article of life, placed it so that its useful significance disappeared under the new title and point of view – created a new thought for that object."
The Fountain was never publicly shown. There exist some replicas made by Duchamp but the original was lost or discarded over time. But that didn't stop it from being voted the most influential artwork of the 20th century by a panel of 500 art experts in 2004. It is now the subject of a comprehensive exhibition at the Philadelphia Museum of Art. In November 1999, a version of Fountain was sold for $1,762,500 to a rich investment broker who declared that Fountain represented 'the origin of contemporary art'.
Though to be completely honest, despite its interesting history, I still think it's just a piss bucket.
What you are looking at here is an art piece "by" Marcel Duchamp called The Fountain. I use the quotation marks because Duchamp didn't actually make this sculpture. The Fountain is just a plain old ordinary urinal that he found, turned it on its side, and put on a pedestal. The only modification on it is the signature done in sharpie.
It was submitted to the first exhibition of the Society of Independent Artists in New York City, which Duchamp was a board member. The exhibition's organizers touted the show as revolutionary, with a policy of accepting literally everything so long as an instillation fee was paid. As a co-founder of the Society of Independent Artists, Duchamp had helped to get this rule enacted. But he had doubts about how open-minded his fellow artists were. So as a test, he presented a literal piss bucket under the pseudonym R. Mutt, called it art, and dared anyone to reject it. Which they did. One board member was quoted saying:
"The Fountain may be a very useful object in its place, but its place is not in an art exhibition and it is, by no definition, a work of art."
The Fountain was technically accepted by the Society of Independent Artist but it was not displayed in any exhibit, instead it was hidden away in storage. Duchamp didn't like his fellow board member's decision, instead thinking that all art should be accepted and displayed to the public. So he quite the board and the Fountain remained locked away.
But this was not the end of The Fountain however. Sometime later, it was photographed at Alfred Stieglitz's studio and the photo published in the second issue of the The Blind Man, a highly regarded art publication at the time. They heard the story surrounding the Fountain and they called the move a bold stance against art elitists and a challenge to the status of art authorities and their bias for tradition. The Blind Man stated:
"Whether Mr. Mutt with his own hands made the fountain has no importance. He CHOSE it. He took an ordinary article of life, placed it so that its useful significance disappeared under the new title and point of view – created a new thought for that object."
The Fountain was never publicly shown. There exist some replicas made by Duchamp but the original was lost or discarded over time. But that didn't stop it from being voted the most influential artwork of the 20th century by a panel of 500 art experts in 2004. It is now the subject of a comprehensive exhibition at the Philadelphia Museum of Art. In November 1999, a version of Fountain was sold for $1,762,500 to a rich investment broker who declared that Fountain represented 'the origin of contemporary art'.
Though to be completely honest, despite its interesting history, I still think it's just a piss bucket.
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TR273
Pirate Fox Mom
I give it 1 star out of 5 and call it 'A piss poor effort.'Yeah, modern art seems like it's being weird just for the sake of being weird. Like when Marcel Duchamp went to buy some plumbing in 1917 and farted out a "masterwork". (Lightning round art fact!!)
What you are looking at here is an art piece "by" Marcel Duchamp called The Fountain. I use the quotation marks because Duchamp didn't actually make this sculpture. The Fountain is just a plain old ordinary urinal that he found, turned it on its side, and put on a pedestal. The only modification on it is the signature done in sharpie.
It was submitted to the first exhibition of the Society of Independent Artists in New York City, which Duchamp was a board member. The exhibition's organizers touted the show as revolutionary, with a policy of accepting literally everything so long as an instillation fee was paid. As a co-founder of the Society of Independent Artists, Duchamp had helped to get this rule enacted. But he had doubts about how open-minded his fellow artists were. So as a test, he presented a literal piss bucket under the pseudonym R. Mutt, called it art, and dared anyone to reject it. Which they did. One board member was quoted saying:
"The Fountain may be a very useful object in its place, but its place is not in an art exhibition and it is, by no definition, a work of art."
The Fountain was technically accepted by the Society of Independent Artist but it was not displayed in any exhibit, instead it was hidden away in storage. Duchamp didn't like his fellow board member's decision, instead thinking that all art should be accepted and displayed to the public. So he quite the board and the Fountain remained locked away.
But this was not the end of The Fountain however. Sometime later, it was photographed at Alfred Stieglitz's studio and the photo published in the second issue of the The Blind Man, a highly regarded art publication at the time. They heard the story surrounding the Fountain and they called the move a bold stance against art elitists and a challenge to the status of art authorities and their bias for tradition. The Blind Man stated:
"Whether Mr. Mutt with his own hands made the fountain has no importance. He CHOSE it. He took an ordinary article of life, placed it so that its useful significance disappeared under the new title and point of view – created a new thought for that object."
The Fountain was never publicly shown. There exist some replicas made by Duchamp but the original was lost or discarded over time. But that didn't stop it from being voted the most influential artwork of the 20th century by a panel of 500 art experts in 2004. It is now the subject of a comprehensive exhibition at the Philadelphia Museum of Art. In November 1999, a version of Fountain was sold for $1,762,500 to a rich investment broker who declared that Fountain represented 'the origin of contemporary art'.
Though, to be completely honest, despite its interesting history, I still think it's just a piss bucket.
(Yes I'll see myself out now.)
Simo
Professional Watermelon Farmer
Ah, I spend a good deal of time each day, exploring art online, ancient to modern...there's always something in every era, that catches my fancy. One thing that I've had fun doing is browsing the auction sales at Christie's and Sothby's (and others), now that one can do so online. It gives a nice idea of what's up and coming, has risen in ascendancy, or, has came and went
But I do discover and re-discover a lot of art and artists this way. Now that I'm not in a big city, I don't have all those museums around, and so I tend to explore things virtually.I have especially liked the works of Roxy Paine; generally large installation, and sculptures; his fast food landscape is so still and eeire, re-contextualized in wood: (also, must have taken ages to make this)
