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Predators and Prey

Arishipshape

Arishipshape

TFed Ex-Knight
FlannelFox said:
Ohhh, I get it-
You're on a date! You two are so adorable <3
Have fun~ *Prances off*
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WHAT NO GET BACK
*sigh*
He's gone. We're not dating. I'M not dating. Dating is strictly regulated for us knights. Too many cases of seduction resulting in dishonorable actions.

metatherat said:
It's strange the armor justice council is made of elders. Elders get kind of feeble. They're going to lose their dominant position to younger rats. I mean knights. :3
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I disagree. We knights want our oldest, most wisened members to make the governing decisions. The young knights have the brawn to carry out the well thought out, just, and moral decisions of the Council, while the Elders have the brains and understanding of tradition to make the rules. Plus, if they keep dying, it instils great hope in us middle to older knights that we might get to keep our honor and a job despite not being as young as we once were! Positions are always opening!
 
metatherat

metatherat

Really ratty rat
Arishipshape said:
I disagree. We knights want our oldest, most wisened members to make the governing decisions. The young knights have the brawn to carry out the well thought out, just, and moral decisions of the Council, while the Elders have the brains and understanding of tradition to make the rules. Plus, if they keep dying, it instils great hope in us middle to older knights that we might get to keep our honor and a job despite not being as young as we once were! Positions are always opening!
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That's too complicated. You should just make a giant horde, scream "honooor" and bite everyone until they are honorable. And occasionally bite each other, so you know who is boss.
 
Arishipshape

Arishipshape

TFed Ex-Knight
metatherat said:
That's too complicated. You should just make a giant horde, scream "honooor" and bite everyone until they are honorable. And occasionally bite each other, so you know who is boss.
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But—what? How would that accomplish anything good? I think you're missing the point.
We aren't obsessed honor because we think the word is fun to say. We knights submit to both our elders and the honor code because we believe it will make the world a better place. Imagine a world where everyone was as honorable as us. No lying. No cheating. No stealing. You wouldn't ever have to worry about whether to trust someone, or whether someone is hiding something. You could leave your stuff just lying around at a tavern and return a week later, and it would still be there. Imagine a world where everyone defended the defenseless, saved the innocent, humbled the proud, and enforced justice. A world where everyone gave alms to the poor, where no one oppressed another. We wouldn't even NEED government! The skunks have a point! Government is slow, inefficient, and wasteful. But it's a necessary evil, as long as evil still permeates the people's lives. If people would just be good, noble, and upright, we wouldn't need law enforcement or unilateral authority granted to kings, or taxation. If everyone listened to their elders, of whatever kind, they would make sound economic and moral decisions.
Honor isn't about screaming honor and biting people (though that sounds fun (oh my god why does that sound fun)) or showing who's boss. It's about making the world a better place.
 
FlannelFox

FlannelFox

dem leggies
Arishipshape said:
*suddenly stops and glares*
The High Council of Elder Knights. They still don't believe me that I'm even a rat. They think it's an April Fools joke.
*returns to grooming with a mixture of fascination and confusion*
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metatherat said:
Aww, don't be nervous. Let's cuddle. *cuddles* And lick. *licks* And nuzzle. *nuzzles*
Hehehe :3
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metatherat said:
Aww. Don't be sensitive. Let's groom each other. *grooms* And touch noses. *touches noses* And lick. *licks*
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*>FLASH<*
*Click-print*
*Pops out from behind a tall bush with the most adorable Polaroid photo*
I think I've got a way I can prove what's up to your knight friends lil' guy!
 
Furrium

Furrium

Hmm
A lot of text, I'm too lazy to read

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metatherat

metatherat

Really ratty rat
Arishipshape said:
But—what? How would that accomplish anything good? I think you're missing the point.
We aren't obsessed honor because we think the word is fun to say. We knights submit to both our elders and the honor code because we believe it will make the world a better place. Imagine a world where everyone was as honorable as us. No lying. No cheating. No stealing. You wouldn't ever have to worry about whether to trust someone, or whether someone is hiding something. You could leave your stuff just lying around at a tavern and return a week later, and it would still be there. Imagine a world where everyone defended the defenseless, saved the innocent, humbled the proud, and enforced justice. A world where everyone gave alms to the poor, where no one oppressed another. We wouldn't even NEED government! The skunks have a point! Government is slow, inefficient, and wasteful. But it's a necessary evil, as long as evil still permeates the people's lives. If people would just be good, noble, and upright, we wouldn't need law enforcement or unilateral authority granted to kings, or taxation. If everyone listened to their elders, of whatever kind, they would make sound economic and moral decisions.
Honor isn't about screaming honor and biting people (though that sounds fun (oh my god why does that sound fun)) or showing who's boss. It's about making the world a better place.
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Eeh. It sounds good, but it will never work. Most people just don't work that way. There will always be some nasty meanie stealing your yogurt and eating that innocent guy. It's not good, but it's not going to change, either. Even if you enforce justice nonstop all over the place, it's like trying to kick the world over. It's just you, against the way everything is. Even if everyone in the world was a armor justice council human, they would just start eyeing each other's yogurt eventually and fighting over whose justice is more shiny. Better to just be a nice rat, and do nice stuff just because you feel like it. You don't need any code or armor justice for that. I like the idea of getting rid of government, though. You don't need any of that, either. You can just nest somewhere nice and let others do the same.

Anyway! The biting is actually only for emergencies, when you can't figure out who is dominant otherwise. Usually we rats do things more lowkey. Here, let me initiate a dominance check.

*scurries around to face you, lifts self up on hindlegs and starts staring directly into your eyes* You are supposed to do the same. If you don't, it means I'm the dominant rat. And then we keep staring, until one of us turns away. The rat who doesn't turn away is the dominant one. Easy! :3
 
Arishipshape

Arishipshape

TFed Ex-Knight
metatherat said:
Eeh. It sounds good, but it will never work. Most people just don't work that way. There will always be some nasty meanie stealing your yogurt and eating that innocent guy. It's not good, but it's not going to change, either. Even if you enforce justice nonstop all over the place, it's like trying to kick the world over. It's just you, against the way everything is. Even if everyone in the world was a armor justice council human, they would just start eyeing each other's yogurt eventually and fighting over whose justice is more shiny. Better to just be a nice rat, and do nice stuff just because you feel like it. You don't need any code or armor justice for that. I like the idea of getting rid of government, though. You don't need any of that, either. You can just nest somewhere nice and let others do the same.

Anyway! The biting is actually only for emergencies, when you can't figure out who is dominant otherwise. Usually we rats do things more lowkey. Here, let me initiate a dominance check.

*scurries around to face you, lifts self up on hindlegs and starts staring directly into your eyes* You are supposed to do the same. If you don't, it means I'm the dominant rat. And then we keep staring, until one of us turns away. The rat who doesn't turn away is the dominant one. Easy! :3
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Sure, the world will never ever be perfect. But one more person doing good is bringing the world that much closer and making it that much better. You can't just "be nice because you feel like it". Often, I don't feel like being nice. But I do it anyways to maintain my honor in the eyes of my fellow knights.
You can't just nest where you feel like! What about property rights? What about building things? What happens when you find somewhere nice and a rat twice your size forcibly evicts you for no reason? What happens when someone like @Spilogale Pygmaea starts eating baby hearts or something? Law and order are good. They help the weak that can't fight for themselves.

*gets stared at*

Um, no, that's a horrible dominance system. Let's do it human style.

*backhand slaps—I mean, back forepaw slaps Meta in the face*

Imagine I was wearing a glove. You are now disgraced and must regain it by dueling me at whatever type of battle the challenged party (I.E. you) chooses.
 
metatherat

metatherat

Really ratty rat
Arishipshape said:
*gets stared at*

Um, no, that's a horrible dominance system. Let's do it human style.

*backhand slaps—I mean, back forepaw slaps Meta in the face*

Imagine I was wearing a glove. You are now disgraced and must regain it by dueling me at whatever type of battle the challenged party (I.E. you) chooses.
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*squeals*
Ow! Who just hits someone in the middle of a dominance check?! FINE! My chosen type thing is a rat dominance check!
*lifts self up on hindlegs and starts staring directly into your eyes*
 
Arishipshape

Arishipshape

TFed Ex-Knight
metatherat said:
*squeals*
Ow! Who just hits someone in the middle of a dominance check?! FINE! My chosen type thing is a rat dominance check!
*lifts self up on hindlegs and starts staring directly into your eyes*
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*also lifts to hindlegs and begins staring intensely*
We'll need an objective rodent judge to dictate who won. Otherwise, we'll both just say we won and there will be no discerning who's right. I move that we take a five minute break to find a judge, if you so agree.
 
metatherat

metatherat

Really ratty rat
Arishipshape said:
*also lifts to hindlegs and begins staring intensely*
We'll need an objective rodent judge to dictate who won. Otherwise, we'll both just say we won and there will be no discerning who's right. I move that we take a five minute break to find a judge, if you so agree.
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*staring firmly*
There you go again with the rules. We don't need any impartial anything. We will both know who has won. Trust your instincts on this one. You won't want to claim you won a dominance check if you didn't. It's...it's just not something you do. It's unthinkable. :/
 
Arishipshape

Arishipshape

TFed Ex-Knight
metatherat said:
*staring firmly*
There you go again with the rules. We don't need any impartial anything. We will both know who has won. Trust your instincts on this one. You won't want to claim you won a dominance check if you didn't. It's...it's just not something you do. It's unthinkable. :/
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Ohhhh nonono, I'm not worried about ME losing and lying. That would be dishonorable as well as stupid. If I lose, I fully plan to admit it.
*grins wickedly and intensifies stare*
 
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