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Question about Tails

Zara the Hork-Bajir

Well-Known Member
Hey just looking to see what people generally use to fill a tail once it has been built? I made myself a quick tail to get some practice sewing and used some old rags to stuff it, but I find that they always end up settling further to the bottom and leave the base almost empty. Should I have filled it more or use more of a solid form foam to fill it?
 

Kellan Meig'h

Kilted Luthier
Probably you will want to use a lightweight Polyfil fiber stuffing. You can buy it at a fabric store, Amazon or Wally*Mart.
 

Mambi

Fun loving kitty cat
Hey just looking to see what people generally use to fill a tail once it has been built? I made myself a quick tail to get some practice sewing and used some old rags to stuff it, but I find that they always end up settling further to the bottom and leave the base almost empty. Should I have filled it more or use more of a solid form foam to fill it?

I've found for a more natural bounce (in feline tails anyway) you have to not fill it at all, but rather have a nice tube core or some other rolled-method of forming it. Stuffing shifts by nature, but a good core is uniform throughout and doesn't try to hold any shape at all, so it moves as you do.

That obviously doesn't work in some tail styles though...just my experiences...others will vary. <smile>
 

Ashwolves5

Miss Fluffy Bottom
I use a polyester fiberfill for regular tails that just a more on the straight side and are small or average sized. its its bigger or shaped like a curled tail then I do carved foam for it.
 

P3@c#3s

Member
Hey just looking to see what people generally use to fill a tail once it has been built? I made myself a quick tail to get some practice sewing and used some old rags to stuff it, but I find that they always end up settling further to the bottom and leave the base almost empty. Should I have filled it more or use more of a solid form foam to fill it?
I'm new here, and never built a suit or anything. But whatever kind of tail you're doing, just purely physics, I'd think use a rather heavy foam for the first few inches, to foot (depending on length, width etc) of the base, and go to a light springy foam after that. You want it to be a bit heavier at the base, so you have a bit more control over swing and bounce; also would help avoid unwanted droop. And as @Mambi said, a tube core will give it nature bounce, reduce weight, and give you a solid base to build on.
 

Zara the Hork-Bajir

Well-Known Member
I'm new here, and never built a suit or anything. But whatever kind of tail you're doing, just purely physics, I'd think use a rather heavy foam for the first few inches, to foot (depending on length, width etc) of the base, and go to a light springy foam after that. You want it to be a bit heavier at the base, so you have a bit more control over swing and bounce; also would help avoid unwanted droop. And as @Mambi said, a tube core will give it nature bounce, reduce weight, and give you a solid base to build on.
I guess I should update this, I ended up building another practice tail and filled it with polyfill stuffing. The weight was significantly less and the stuffing didn't end up shifting much though what I found is it was a bit too light overall. I think you are right and I should have added some weights, though I think I might want some in the tip as well as the base to keep the weight balance.

Well that is the point of practice, to see what works well and what doesn't.
 

P3@c#3s

Member
I guess I should update this, I ended up building another practice tail and filled it with polyfill stuffing. The weight was significantly less and the stuffing didn't end up shifting much though what I found is it was a bit too light overall. I think you are right and I should have added some weights, though I think I might want some in the tip as well as the base to keep the weight balance.

Well that is the point of practice, to see what works well and what doesn't.
Lol that's great. Yea, gotta start somewhere. Yea, a cat tail is a bit more tricky than say a dragon tail, because it's thin, generally uniform. But something a bit more Ridgid, and a little wieght at the end, I'd think that would make for a good stable tail, with a bit of swing. Keep us posted.
 

Zara the Hork-Bajir

Well-Known Member
Well I am back with another question. I tried expanding my skills a bit more and decided to make more of a crocodile style tail. Unfortunately it seems to have some twist in the end. I am not sure how that happened as I was pretty careful with the sewing...

I have already stuffed and wired it so I really don't want to unpick the whole thing. Is there a simple way to correct a slight twist in a sewn piece? I have tried twisting it in the other direction and leaving some weights on it for a while but it seems to revert back after a few minutes.
 

Kellan Meig'h

Kilted Luthier
what usually cause a twist it one of two things; some part of the panels that make up the tail was cut not straight but on the bias (diagonally.) The other way was the tail was sewn that way. When I make a tail, all panels are either cut with the grain (direction of the lay of the fur) or one side is cut on the bias one way, the other side is cut opposite, a mirror image. I also clip them together with binder clips and hang it up to see if it's going to twist before I start sewing.

If you think picking out hand stitching is bad, try ripping out a seam that's been serged.

BTW, you can post these questions in the general area of fursuiting and costuming.
 

Zara the Hork-Bajir

Well-Known Member
what usually cause a twist it one of two things; some part of the panels that make up the tail was cut not straight but on the bias (diagonally.) The other way was the tail was sewn that way. When I make a tail, all panels are either cut with the grain (direction of the lay of the fur) or one side is cut on the bias one way, the other side is cut opposite, a mirror image. I also clip them together with binder clips and hang it up to see if it's going to twist before I start sewing.

If you think picking out hand stitching is bad, try ripping out a seam that's been serged.

BTW, you can post these questions in the general area of fursuiting and costuming.
Thanks for the tips, I ended up unpicking and re-sewing certain parts of it. It did help the twist somewhat but I think I will probably have to restart to fix it completely. I will post the next questions I have in the main forum.

I can't seem to post a post a picture of the final product directly.

Can I post a picture directly from my computer anymore?
 

Servyl

Buh-bye forums.

Kellan Meig'h

Kilted Luthier
Hope this helps, this is the standard and very cheap that most fursuit makers use.
Well, that is relatively cheap fiberfill if you're not near a Joanne's Fabrics but that has nothing to do with the twist problem. Twist occurs when you either don't mirror your cuts for left/right or top/bottom or you don't fully binder clip the material before stiching to keep uneven stitching from causing twisting.
 
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