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RANT: Stop oversexualizing your fursonas; treat them like characters.

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Chomby

It's Spooky Month!
I like some substance in my characters. Both metaphorically and literally.
 

Raever

Chaotic Neutral Wreckage

KnightsSorrow

Well-Known Member
So if someone gives a heartfelt soliloquy while drilling someone into the next timezone... You'd be happy? I'm not even picturing your desired outcome to properly give an answer.
If a naked mathematician can have an epiphany in a bathtub followed by streaking through the streets, why can't you have a soliloquy while getting hot and steamy in the sheets?
 

Rayd

profound asshole

this is all assuming that the people who have mostly sexual art of their character and act sexual within the community don't have a canon, meaningful story, which frankly, most people already do, they just aren't able to express it as well because they aren't artists, which is actually my exact problem.

i used to only commission SFW art of my character and his story. it wouldn't be long before i got tired of the limitations of commissioning art of my story as opposed to actually being able to draw my ideas myself, and transitioned my gallery into a more non-canon NSFW gallery. at times i'm ashamed of it and frustrated that there isn't more i could do to express my character's canon story, but i try my best to get over it, and at the very least, i'll always have my story in text, and i can always say that the NSFW version of my character isn't canon.

19 times out of 20, the people who do express their stories in their galleries are artists, because it's a lot easier for them to do so as artists than commissioners. i envy artists a lot for that at times.

i do agree though, it's a slight insecurity of mine that these neon-colored femboy characters can exist for a couple months and instantly be more popular and adored than mine simply because the person who owns it dumps their money on $300-$500 NSFW pieces. it just goes to show how truly sexual this fandom is when they value NSFW over SFW that much.
 

KD142000

Leather-clad Lobo
this is all assuming that the people who have mostly sexual art of their character and act sexual within the community don't have a canon, meaningful story, which frankly, most people already do, they just aren't able to express it as well because they aren't artists, which is actually my exact problem.

i used to only commission SFW art of my character and his story. it wouldn't be long before i got tired of the limitations of commissioning art of my story as opposed to actually being able to draw my ideas myself, and transitioned my gallery into a more non-canon NSFW gallery. at times i'm ashamed of it and frustrated that there isn't more i could do to express my character's canon story, but i try my best to get over it, and at the very least, i'll always have my story in text, and i can always say that the NSFW version of my character isn't canon.

19 times out of 20, the people who do express their stories in their galleries are artists, because it's a lot easier for them to do so as artists than commissioners. i envy artists a lot for that at times.

i do agree though, it's a slight insecurity of mine that these neon-colored femboy characters can exist for a couple months and instantly be more popular and adored than mine simply because the person who owns it dumps their money on $300-$500 NSFW pieces. it just goes to show how truly sexual this fandom is when they value NSFW over SFW that much.
Your character is lovely, though!

I do understand what you mean. Sometimes people do value NSFW art more than SFW. But then again, the people who like your character just cos they're sexy aren't the sort of fans you'd want anyways.

Maybe stories and publishing journals about them is the best way to express the canon?
 

Skittles

Queen of FaF. Empress of Fløøf.
Dearie me this turned into quite the discussion.

Copy pasted myself into my Sona. No backstory. Just a slightly exaggerated version of my own self and personality(Flaws and all). Had no issues.

I guess it really depends on the characters owner. -Scratches head-
 
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Punkedsolar

Never say never
I'm suddenly flashing back to when I used to have a very 'self' 'Sona and did what was basically an art trade and got back tentacle porn with my 'Sona.

I was really, REALLY uncomfortable D:
 

Raever

Chaotic Neutral Wreckage
I'm suddenly flashing back to when I used to have a very 'self' 'Sona and did what was basically an art trade and got back tentacle porn with my 'Sona.

I was really, REALLY uncomfortable D:

This is why you don't do art trades with "me-but-furry" characters.
Or really anything that allows for, uh *ahems* "Extreme creative freedom?" >.>;
Unless you're into that, anyway lol
 

Punkedsolar

Never say never
This is why you don't do art trades with "me-but-furry" characters.
Or really anything that allows for, uh *ahems* "Extreme creative freedom?" >.>;
Unless you're into that, anyway lol

It honestly never occurred to me that for a normal trade that I'd need to explicitly say 'No sex'.
 

Sir Thaikard

GOTTA WRITE FAST.
Tldr. Sorry. You're really getting your panties in a twist over this. Anyone can do whatever they want. I'd like to see you go after women for "sexualizing" themselves for showing, how dare I even speak of it, legs and shoulders. Gasp For real though. Take a chill pill please.

As long as they don't do anything degenerate like show off an ankle we're all good.

Next you'll tell me that people are holding hands in public. Perish the thought.
 

BlackDragonAJ89

Bumbling Everyman
As long as they don't do anything degenerate like show off an ankle we're all good.

Next you'll tell me that people are holding hands in public. Perish the thought.

Did you know that in some places, they let the women wear PANTS. And the men wear shits without SLEEVES.

Not only that, NOBODY WEARS HATS. How can we know anything people when they're without HATS?!
 

Rhys Tieran

Member
.... But what if your Sona is a slut?

In all seriousness, people should do what they want with their Sonas. I totally get if it sort of breaks your 'immersion' with the character, but it's that person's to do with as they wish.
 

redhusky

Emperor of Floof! King of the Rats and Spamlord!
There's the concept of the "Id" character. It translates more to the "Wish Fulfillment/Power Fantasy" character. The character does and says things that you personally would not dare do in real life. Sexual characters are filling the sexuality role of that fantasy and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
 

redhusky

Emperor of Floof! King of the Rats and Spamlord!
So if someone gives a heartfelt soliloquy while drilling someone into the next timezone... You'd be happy? I'm not even picturing your desired outcome to properly give an answer.
This would make a hilarious pic. I shall be stealing this idea, thank you. U_U
 

Raever

Chaotic Neutral Wreckage
.... But what if your Sona is a slut?

In all seriousness, people should do what they want with their Sonas. I totally get if it sort of breaks your 'immersion' with the character, but it's that person's to do with as they wish.

Jokes aside, there's more to nymphos than just sex. Sex just happens to play a more prominent role in their life. I say any character can be a bit more sexually active than normal and still have depth to them. Maybe they struggle with it? Maybe they do it to bury other emotions? If enough effort is applied almost any scenario or character can be given depth without taking the fun out of a good old fashioned sex scene.
 

redhusky

Emperor of Floof! King of the Rats and Spamlord!
Jokes aside, there's more to nymphos than just sex. Sex just happens to play a more prominent role in their life. I say any character can be a bit more sexually active than normal and still have depth to them. Maybe they struggle with it? Maybe they do it to bury other emotions? If enough effort is applied almost any scenario or character can be given depth without taking the fun out of a good old fashioned sex scene.
This. Reasons for sex isn't as simple as it seems and it's not always for bad/tragic reasons.
 

Rayd

profound asshole
Your character is lovely, though!

I do understand what you mean. Sometimes people do value NSFW art more than SFW. But then again, the people who like your character just cos they're sexy aren't the sort of fans you'd want anyways.

Maybe stories and publishing journals about them is the best way to express the canon?

oh, trust me, i know. the kind of crowds these popular neon femboy sonas attract are typically socially inept weirdos anyway. so while i believe i really shouldn't care, it still rests on my conscious at times, regardless. i don't envy them for their fanbase, but moreso the artists they commission and how often they do so (seriously though, a lot of these people always have a never ending "waiting on" list that's legitimately never empty, and most of the artists they have on them charge hundreds for their art. i don't know where they get their money from, not that it's any of my business, but.)

what's crazier is that the few people i've talked to who have those type of characters and those kind of galleries describe their commissioning frequency as an addiction, and are always having financial trouble because of it. kinda sad, really.

anyways, referring to your last line, while i don't write nearly as often as i used to, i typically keep my work in textpads because i know if i were to upload them anywhere public that nobody would care enough to read them, and would potentially even cause people to unwatch me. so it's just not worth it to me, so i never share anything i write unless people ask me about it.
 
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Rhys Tieran

Member
Jokes aside, there's more to nymphos than just sex. Sex just happens to play a more prominent role in their life. I say any character can be a bit more sexually active than normal and still have depth to them. Maybe they struggle with it? Maybe they do it to bury other emotions? If enough effort is applied almost any scenario or character can be given depth without taking the fun out of a good old fashioned sex scene.
Very good point, and I fully agree. Any character I've ever roleplayed, minus a few, usually use it as procreation or healthy recreation. I've had a couple use sex unhealthily to offset their boring job or to blot out feelings that they didn't want to confront because it was just much easier that way. A couple more characters simply wanted to live life to the fullest and use it as much as they could. It didn't take much to establish a role that sex played in their life. And I bet that most characters also fall under one of these reasons, even if they don't seem apparent at first glance.
 

dragonofdestiny

Thousand-faced dragoness
Thanks for all the responses, everyone! This post really got a lot of attention over one night, flew way above my expectations. Whilst I'm happy this didn't die with two comments, the three pages are kind of counteractive, too. I wish I could go claw-to-claw with every response, but there really don't seem to be the resources to do so. I'll try to refer to things in general instead.

Some of the comments made me realize that I should have titled this "Please consider focusing on more meaningful parts of your characters instead of sexuality." With emphasis on "please". I get how people see this as an angry, kind of bossy rant about how people should and should not be acting; this wasn't really my intention. Yes, it is your choice what path you're going to take and what decisions you want to make, I'm fine with that. That's what makes creativity and the ambiguity of life so fun. All this was more of a suggestion for people to consider taking up some deeper development for their fursonas and stories. Doesn't take a detective to realise I'm a sucker for writing, and equally so for reading, much less for sex; it's why I don't only consider my suggestion fresh and interesting, but also helpful and productive for the creator themself. On the other side, however, some people considering it boring and time-wasting instead. That's why it's a suggestion, I can't really force people's perspectives, can I?

And the arrogancy with which some people responded (especially the "Make me" responses, very mature) makes me question just how enraged and furious I sounded myself; I really did get my panties in a twist, didn't I? /s
Even then, it was fun to listen to the other side of the argument since, I must agree, I'm wrong in some parts.

Oh and thanks Raever and Valryth for having some of the nicer comments here. V's notice of how this IS the true face of the community made me question my own beliefs, I'll consider this. Either way I'm not sure how to put this without sounding biased, since you're partly on my side, so I'll just leave it like this.


All of this is more fun than I had anticipated, thanks ^^

yeah i posted this too early a second before, sorry
 

Raever

Chaotic Neutral Wreckage
Thanks for all the responses, everyone! This post really got a lot of attention over one night, flew way above my expectations. Whilst I'm happy this didn't die with two comments, the three pages are kind of counteractive, too. I wish I could go claw-to-claw with every response, but there really don't seem to be the resources to do so. I'll try to refer to things in general instead.

Some of the comments made me realize that I should have titled this "Please consider focusing on more meaningful parts of your characters instead of sexuality." With emphasis on "please". I get how people see this as an angry, kind of bossy rant about how people should and should not be acting; this wasn't really my intention. Yes, it is your choice what path you're going to take and what decisions you want to make, I'm fine with that. That's what makes creativity and the ambiguity of life so fun. All this was more of a suggestion for people to consider taking up some deeper development for their fursonas and stories. Doesn't take a detective to realise I'm a sucker for writing, and equally so for reading, much less for sex; it's why I don't only consider my suggestion fresh and interesting, but also helpful and productive for the creator themself. On the other side, however, some people considering it boring and time-wasting instead. That's why it's a suggestion, I can't really force people's perspectives, can I?

And the arrogancy with which some people responded (especially the "Make me" responses, very mature) makes me question just how enraged and furious I sounded myself; I really did get my panties in a twist, didn't I? /s
Even then, it was fun to listen to the other side of the argument since, I must agree, I'm wrong in some parts.

Oh and thanks Raever and Valryth for having some of the nicer comments here. V's notice of how this IS the true face of the community made me question my own beliefs, I'll consider this. Either way I'm not sure how to put this without sounding biased, since you're partly on my side, so I'll just leave it like this.


All of this is more fun than I had anticipated, thanks ^^

yeah i posted this too early a second before, sorry

I actually appreciate you bringing things up. While to some it could have come across as judgemental and brash, to me it was just a writer being passionate about their community and how things are presented in it. Maybe I'm biased myself - being a fellow writer, - but it certainly didn't feel like a negative post, and it got people talking. Overall it feels like a successful thread in my book, just gotta work on the wordplay a bit more and you'll be golden.
 

BunBunArt

Princess Bunny ♥
I don't have a sona though, only original characters and they all have stories and I have been working on my world (maps, politics, government, laws...) for 9 years already. All my characters have amazing (for me) backstories, quite complex and meaningful, also I don't just create furries, I actually only have 4 furry characters for my comic and like... 35 non-furries. But they're all in the same world that I created where anthros exist (I love fantasy so I created a crazy super fantasy world and I love every single part of it)

BUT I do enjoy drawing some of them being sexy hot and with NSFW side stories... and I won't feel bad about that. =(
 
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