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RANT: Stop oversexualizing your fursonas; treat them like characters.

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dragonofdestiny

Thousand-faced dragoness
You know. I used to be a dick. I got upset one time because of the stigma of all furries being autistic. So I would make a fuss in threads about autistic furries. That was fucking horrible of me to do. But I have a feeling you could learn from my story. This is just the way things are. You have to deal with it. If people are upset about them being labeled as fetishists for being a furry, it just kinda goes with being a furry. Really if it makes you upset, you're the one who placed the label on yourself. No one else did.

I placed a label on myself that calls me a furry. By definition, it should mean: "A person with interests tied to media with characters bearing animal properties, whether feral animals, anthropomorphic etc." (the list of possible definitions is long) However, thanks to the impression people got of us it was changed to: "A person sexually into animals, possibly zoophilia, with some other weird kinks tied into it.". I know from experience. Which label would you prefer to wear?


How does enjoying sex make you automatically shallow? I don't get it.

I mean that having a character heavy on the sexual side makes it shallow, not the creator. Sorry, I should proof-read more.

you said earlier that we shouldn't care about what outsiders said
Where?

Forgive me if I'm being a bit testy, but this isn't sitting right with me. It's one thing to find pornography irritating. But it's something else to sneer at those who enjoy it.
There's a fine line between airing your opinions and telling others how they should behave, and you're really struggling to remain on the former side.

I'd wager you didn't read my posts clearly. I'm sneering at people who make us look bad by shoving their kinks into outside people, not people who simply enjoy it. I know, I know; you do you. But by doing that you make others look equal, those who probably don't even want to be associated with what you're doing. It's a topic of respect for yourself and the comfort of others, both of which are clearly missing in our fandom.
 

Ovidia Dragoness

Udder Derg
Banned
I placed a label on myself that calls me a furry. By definition, it should mean: "A person with interests tied to media with characters bearing animal properties, whether feral animals, anthropomorphic etc." (the list of possible definitions is long) However, thanks to the impression people got of us it was changed to: "A person sexually into animals, possibly zoophilia, with some other weird kinks tied into it.". I know from experience. Which label would you prefer to wear?




I mean that having a character heavy on the sexual side makes it shallow, not the creator. Sorry, I should proof-read more.


Where?



I'd wager you didn't read my posts clearly. I'm sneering at people who make us look bad by shoving their kinks into outside people, not people who simply enjoy it. I know, I know; you do you. But by doing that you make others look equal, those who probably don't even want to be associated with what you're doing. It's a topic of respect for yourself and the comfort of others, both of which are clearly missing in our fandom.
You can't change what other people think. And you know the stigma. If you don't want to deal with it to enjoy what you like, stop being a furry.
 

dragonofdestiny

Thousand-faced dragoness
You can't change what other people think. And you know the stigma. If you don't want to deal with it to enjoy what you like, stop being a furry.

Who said I don't enjoy what I like? I can easily focus on myself. But why completely ignore it? I have full right to speak up about it, from what I presume. Can't say I'm creating a groundbreaking revolution, but even then I don't like being a conformist that much.
 

Ovidia Dragoness

Udder Derg
Banned
Who said I don't enjoy what I like? I can easily focus on myself. But why completely ignore it? I have full right to speak up about it, from what I presume. Can't say I'm creating a groundbreaking revolution, but even then I don't like being a conformist that much.
You have every right to say whatever you want but people also have the right to tell you how dumb and whiney this is. Just being honest fam.
 

FluffyShutterbug

The Fox Is Back In Town!
I placed a label on myself that calls me a furry. By definition, it should mean: "A person with interests tied to media with characters bearing animal properties, whether feral animals, anthropomorphic etc." (the list of possible definitions is long) However, thanks to the impression people got of us it was changed to: "A person sexually into animals, possibly zoophilia, with some other weird kinks tied into it.". I know from experience. Which label would you prefer to wear?
Who the heck have you been talking to? The anime icon army on Twitter!? In my experience, only trolls, fascism sympathizers, or both, are the ones who call us "zoophiles".
I mean that having a character heavy on the sexual side makes it shallow, not the creator. Sorry, I should proof-read more.
So, Jamie's strong NSFW side totally negates all other aspects of his character, then?
"You clearly misunderstood me. In my head, the point of toning down the seuxal side would be to focus on something more meaningful (I've already covered what that would be, what would be its advantages etc.), not to make outside people look at us normally again."
I'd wager you didn't read my posts clearly. I'm sneering at people who make us look bad by shoving their kinks into outside people, not people who simply enjoy it. I know, I know; you do you. But by doing that you make others look equal, those who probably don't even want to be associated with what you're doing. It's a topic of respect for yourself and the comfort of others, both of which are clearly missing in our fandom.
So, now we're going from sharing opinions to outright saying "You're a jerk if you refuse to stop being sex-positive". Look, adult spaces are already segregated from underage people and those who don't want to see it. Which means you're literally just stewing in your house getting offended at what other people *might* be doing.
I really hate to use this word, but I'm getting a clear picture of what you are, and you appear to be a prude.
 

Rayd

profound asshole
i don't even think she was trying to force her opinion on anyone, i just think the way she's been wording all of her posts made it seem that way, just to be completely fair. to me, this shouldn't have been written as a "rant" moreso than an unpopular opinion.
 

FluffyShutterbug

The Fox Is Back In Town!
i don't even think she was trying to force her opinion on anyone, i just think the way she's been wording all of her posts made it seem that way, just to be completely fair. to me, this shouldn't have been written as a "rant" moreso than an unpopular opinion.
"I'm sneering at people who make us look bad by shoving their kinks into outside people, not people who simply enjoy it. I know, I know; you do you. But by doing that you make others look equal, those who probably don't even want to be associated with what you're doing. It's a topic of respect for yourself and the comfort of others, both of which are clearly missing in our fandom."
 

Rayd

profound asshole
"I'm sneering at people who make us look bad by shoving their kinks into outside people, not people who simply enjoy it. I know, I know; you do you. But by doing that you make others look equal, those who probably don't even want to be associated with what you're doing. It's a topic of respect for yourself and the comfort of others, both of which are clearly missing in our fandom."
yeah, i read it, you don't need to write it back to me. lol.
 

Ziggy Schlacht

Hasn't figured out this "straight" business
I'm still not even really sure what this would look like. There's a goal listed, though I find it drastically at odds with what most people are on art sites for, but not what meeting that goal would look like. Posts with pants and walls of texts? Detailed descriptions of everything? We can have just as shallow and vapid art with pants on... The entire vibe I'm getting from this is "I hate how furries are synonymous with perverts" which is valid - don't think anyone here harbors the illusion that the fandom is one of the more respected ones - but also "so stop drawing sex" which is not. Why would we change what we do because people who we owe nothing to and who owe nothing to us might change their mind?

Basically, OP needs to provide an example of what would be "ideal" before anything beyond punching will commence.
 

Lexiand

Werewolf a Tophat
Have you been browsing furry sites with the NSFW filter off? Because that what this post sounds like.

I have to give the spotlight to the problem of pornography and its prevalence within the furry community. Known to everyone, there's no need to discuss how this trend makes our (very talented) subculture look disgusting and unappealing to normal people

Why should we care about what these "normal people" think about us? As far as we know Most of us is not doing anything illegal So I think we should honestly not care.

Stop oversexualizing your fursonas; treat them like characters.
You can't just tell people on the internet what to do. That is not how it works.
Also you don't own other people's characters they can do what ever they please.
 

FluffyShutterbug

The Fox Is Back In Town!
Have you been browsing furry sites with the NSFW filter off? Because that what this post sounds like.



Why should we care about what these "normal people" think about us? As far as we know Most of us is not doing anything illegal So I think we should honestly not care.


You can't just tell people on the internet what to do. That is not how it works.
Also you don't own other people's characters they can do what ever they please.
Exactly! Adult content isn't something you just accidentally stumble across (unless you're on the darkweb).
 

Lexiand

Werewolf a Tophat
Exactly! Except when you casually browse through FurAffinity with the safe option on, stumbling upon a picture of a women round as a balloon and as big as a truck, getting her face stuffed with food while drooling like an idiot.
Doesn't that violate the rules, though?

Yea I do admit That is a huge problem. Heck I seen some art that should be in the NSFW category but was not put there. Thats a problem thats worth fixing.
 

Skittles

Queen of FaF. Empress of Fløøf.
Exactly! Except when you casually browse through FurAffinity with the safe option on, stumbling upon a picture of a women round as a balloon and as big as a truck, getting her face stuffed with food while drooling like an idiot.
Nightmare fuel.
 
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Exactly! Adult content isn't something you just accidentally stumble across (unless you're on the darkweb).

I disagree. Many many websites on the surface web have NSFW content that shouldn't be there. Especially meme sites and image boards. There are always edgy people posting porn or fetishes outside of NSFW categories.

This isn't exclusive to the furry fandom, btw. It happens everywhere.
 
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