Red Lines please?

[rayvenredfield]

Hello, I'm just looking for some read lines on a pic of mine that's for a ref sheet of my new character. if someone out there would be so kind as to help me out I would very much appreciate it.

Basically, the only thing I think is wrong obviously is his missing arm (and hand..... hands are evil) >.> and maybe that his torso is too long.
But, anatomy is one of the evil subjects out there that is continually trying to destroy me, so I might be wrong and there may be more errors X.x


PS: if this is in the wrong thread (doubtful, but i have been wrong before) i apologize.

 

[rayvenredfield]

Could someone please help? x.x

 

[DustStar]

i could if i understood more of what you needed.

 

[rayvenredfield]

i could if i understood more of what you needed.

I need some help in finding out if there are any anatomical errors with the pic or not, like if his torso really is too long and what i could do to fix it if anything, that sorta thing..... as well as getting some help with drawing the arm >.>;; or at least the placement of the joints and what not.

 

[rayvenredfield]

For those that don't know what red lines are, from my understanding at least, they are when another artist (preferably with a better grasp of anatomy then yourself) goes over your original drawing with a red pencil and helps define where mistakes are made (by correcting them with the red pencil while still keeping your original drawing in tact)

 

[DustStar]

Never heard of that term. I'll do that now then.

 

[rayvenredfield]

Never heard of that term. I'll do that now then.

really? i thought it was kind of a universal term among artists >.>;; hmm.... guess not. and thank you kindly for your help ^_^

 

[DustStar]

here ya go

 

[rayvenredfield]

here ya go

that was fast o.o thank you ^-^
so basically all i gotta do is bulk up and shorten the legs a bit, and figure a way to shorten the torso some?

EDIT: oh, and drawing the arm x.x so much erasing to do....... T^T

 

[DustStar]

here ya go

that was fast o.o thank you ^-^
so basically all i gotta do is bulk up and shorten the legs a bit, and figure a way to shorten the torso some?

EDIT: oh, and drawing the arm x.x so much erasing to do....... T^T

yeah, basically. you made the pelvis and ribs too far apart (lengthened the torso)

 

[Auradeva]

I don't think you need that drastic of a red line. Too much red and it becomes someone else's style! I think your character's balance is more on than in the red line you were given. I'd say your proportions are fine except for the legs. That seems like a bad case of trying to fit everything on the paper, which almost always happens when you start detailing out a character before getting their pose figured out first with a quick skeleton sketch. You just need to stretch out the lower part of the legs and continue the arm from where you had it and give them more muscle.

 

[Xanthe]

There really should not be anything here. Commented on the wrong area. Sorry.

 

[cataract_orange]

Lets also not forget artistic licensing; not everyone's body is perfect, especially with anthros. I would just like to point out that his posture seems awkward; almost like he's about to bend backwards or something. Like his center of gravity is off, you know what I mean? I would suggest rotating the thighs back and straighting the legs a bit more. Shorten the calves and beef up the lower half of the legs like in the red lines.

BTW, I really like how you did the thighs; very good anatomy.

 

[devillo]

I Always thought the artwork was done in blue pencil to then be inked up later, but a red pencil for mistakes? Not sure If I know that one. Dunno how you would mask both blue and red. Still, anatomy is a nightmare, but theres always practice. Try not to have your character at a perfect angle to the front or side, its much better to go at it from a 45 degree or 3 quarters angle, makes the character seem less flat.

 

[cataract_orange]

Red line is usually done digitally with a tablet.

 

[Arshes Nei]

Oh lord......*this thread is going to make my head hurt if there are more assumptions and guessing*

Guys, Redlining is just a term where it's "Corrective ink".. When you went to school, your teacher used RED to when you got answers wrong, correct? This is the same principle, to show a CORRECTION usually the color is done in red, but it can be ANY color really as long as the correction or suggestions to anatomy are shown. Red is commonly used because it just shows up better, it's a strong color that doesn't "Fade into the background" like cool colors tend to.

Whether the correction is done digitally or manually is very irrelevant.

As for using Blue. This really is irrelevant these days too. It was a common thing to use Non Repo blue for base lines of sketches because certain photocopiers and scanners couldn't pick up the ink. Now with today's scanners they'll still pick it up anyways. You can go into Photoshop or any imaging program that uses CHANNELS and get rid of colored lines and leave greys and blacks behind.

Does that clear things up?

 

[cataract_orange]

Whether the correction is done digitally or manually is very irrelevant.

Regardless, though, red lining is mostly done digitally. Using red ink or a pencil directly on a sketch would, otherwise, ruin the sketch.

 

[Arshes Nei]

Whether the correction is done digitally or manually is very irrelevant.

Regardless, though, red lining is mostly done digitally. Using red ink or a pencil directly on a sketch would, otherwise, ruin the sketch.

I can actually take a sketch, print it, and redline with a red ink/pen/pencil and re-upload it. So no, sorry. So again the argument is really irrelevant, and not even worth trying to note how it is done, only WHY it is done.

 

[verix]

Regardless, though, red lining is mostly done digitally. Using red ink or a pencil directly on a sketch would, otherwise, ruin the sketch.

Not really, no.

 

[cataract_orange]

Well...... I guess I'm wrong then.....

 

[Auradeva]

Wow. Why does everyone care so much about the "correct way" to do a red line? Rayven's just asking for anatomy help and the common term for that is "red line". How you actually do that is irrelevant. It's a jpg of a sketch! We're not scribbling red marker on a finished original painting here!