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Seriously?!

Blitza

Member
See it as it is, People dont really leave FA because so many artists there. Neer is incompetent and give an shit about FA anymore when you see How "good" the site now is running. I think all the time should i come back but for what ??? That site is full of Trolls, incompetent staff and an Site owner like IMVU were i could all day hurl.....
 

PheagleAdler

Well-Known Member
I'm pretty sure regular movie theaters aren't allowed to show XXX stuff (without being labelled a porn one)...soooo your analogy only served to prove RTD's point.

It's not a perfect example, but I did point out the video store with the 'back room' You realize those do exist.

If football eagle man was right, then FA could completely ban porn and FA wouldn't die. But it would. Tells ya something about this so-called "fandom", eh? At least sites like e621 are honest.

Mr Eagle, it's ok. You can stop brown nosing now, dragoneer has stepped down.

Okay, first of all, Dragoneer has not 'stepped down' just because he sold the site to IMVU. And secondly, how the FUCK am I brownnosing because I don't think FA is a porn site? That does not support or criticize who is running the site in any way.

How about this: you call FA whatever the fuck you want, but I'm not going to refer to it as a porn site. Because for those of you who know me even a little bit know I'm not here for porn. And we can dance around this little topic all you want, but FA is a site for FURRY ARTWORK, clean, dirty, doesn't matter. Perhaps you could call it the 'America' of art sites in the fandom. Of course the porn's there, because it's allowed to be, and for good reason (as you mentioned, SheezyArt).

Do I think the site would die without porn? Really, it's hard to say, it would certainly be a major blow to the site and in my opinion a mistake especially based on the original reason they were established in the first place. But there's still a lot of clean artwork here, so maybe it would just become smaller. I will say it won't be the largest art site in the fandom anymore. People can handle small changes to the site, but when you take away what amounts to half of what's uploaded to the site, that'll be sure to bring a mass exodus.
 

Accountability

Enthusiastic Downloader
Okay, first of all, Dragoneer has not 'stepped down' just because he sold the site to IMVU.

So... Going from "Owner who controls everything" to "I get told where and how to implement skeezy ads and have zero control over finances"... isn't a step down? :rolleyes:
 

PheagleAdler

Well-Known Member
So... Going from "Owner who controls everything" to "I get told where and how to implement skeezy ads and have zero control over finances"... isn't a step down? :rolleyes:

No, it's not. It's just that there's now someone above him. He's still in charge of the site.
 

Butters Shikkon

Patron Saint of Queers
Just get Adblock people! Wait, you use IE or Firefox? What are you doing with your life? :V
Anyway, I don't really care about the IMVU buyout. FA is going down less and the servers are working better overall. At least they wern't bought by Microsoft. Then we'd all be screwed.
Also, I don't think Furaffinity is a porn site. If it was, then Fanfiction.net, Tumblr, and DeviantArt would also count as porn sites.
 

TheArchiver

Ace Documenter

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I never noticed that comment. He actually called me the AntiChrist. Because I badmouth a horrible site and am one of the people who expose him to be the fanboy that he is. I cannot help but laugh hysterically at the thought of this coming to exorcise me in my sleep. Moving on.

I think it speaks towards the claims of FurAffinity being a porn driven outlet when a GoFundMe and Invstor are shut down on the grounds of it being such a thing.
The most popular users specialize in pornography (not saying they are any less talented for it or that they never draw anything else) and make their living on it. Dragoneer himself commissioned and favorited porn frequently as well as most users. Frequently I see artist advertisements for NSFW commissions.

It is a porn site.
 
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-Sliqq-

Silo
Then it's best to not reply then Sliqq then you would'nt be shot down so much.


I'm not concerned in any way, it's just not worth arguing what a site is.

To me, if a site contains both SFW and NSFW work, it's just an art site to me.

If it's only NSFW then it's a porn site to me. However, it's all in the perception.
 

RTDragon

RTP User
I'm not concerned in any way, it's just not worth arguing what a site is.

To me, if a site contains both SFW and NSFW work, it's just an art site to me.

If it's only NSFW then it's a porn site to me. However, it's all in the perception.

Sadly your perception does'nt work that way from a business standpoint especially since most sites especially ones that TheArchiver mentioned pretty much don't allow porn.
 

BRN

WTB Forum Mod Powers
The point isn't whether or not this an art or a porn site.

The point - and what we should be talking about - is whether we as a community want to agree to have those adverts on the site. I don't like them and really don't want them. It makes me feel fuckin' seedy to see Paheal-tier adverts on my fluffy FurAffinity.

People saying "use adblock" are missin' the point, sadly. Tragedy of the commons - we literally can't all do that or the internet would literally collapse.
 
The point isn't whether or not this an art or a porn site.

The point - and what we should be talking about - is whether we as a community want to agree to have those adverts on the site. I don't like them and really don't want them. It makes me feel fuckin' seedy to see Paheal-tier adverts on my fluffy FurAffinity.

People saying "use adblock" are missin' the point, sadly. Tragedy of the commons - we literally can't all do that or the internet would literally collapse.

i mean, adblock is great, and i love it. but i love more the ads that the artists who actually built fa up with their posts and hard work. i've found so many cool artists and friends that i wouldn't have found otherwise because of the ads. but these gaggle ads are just.. ugh. though, the other day an engagement ring ad came up in the forums and my bf shook his head at me and sighed when i eye-balled him. that was fun. XD
 

PheagleAdler

Well-Known Member
How about this?

It's just an art site...

Easy, 'they' don't want you to think that. Sure, I do, but since they have a problem with my opinions, what I say does not matter to them.

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I never noticed that comment. He actually called me the AntiChrist. Because I badmouth a horrible site and am one of the people who expose him to be the fanboy that he is. I cannot help but laugh hysterically at the thought of this coming to exorcise me in my sleep. Moving on.

I think it speaks towards the claims of FurAffinity being a porn driven outlet when a GoFundMe and Invstor are shut down on the grounds of it being such a thing.
The most popular users specialize in pornography (not saying they are any less talented for it or that they never draw anything else) and make their living on it. Dragoneer himself commissioned and favorited porn frequently as well as most users. Frequently I see artist advertisements for NSFW commissions.

It is a porn site.

Well, I'm as much as a fanboy as you are a whiny little no-nothing. I don't believe it was revealed why the GoFundMe was shut down, quite frankly it could have been simply some asshole like you reporting it because you hate the site that much. (I'm guessing I'm a fanboy simply because I don't hate the site as much as you do)

As far as older accounts go, I recall PayPal had something to do with cub porn (I could be wrong about that?), which the site does not allow anymore. But it was never the entire site, or even a majority really.

The fact that FA has a SFW button just says it all. I'm sorry, do most porn sites have those now? Would there really be anything to view on a porn site if you clicked on it?

And for the record, I called you the AntiChrist after you retorted that I was 'Mr. FA Patriot' to which Butters responded was not relevant. It wasn't because you badmouth the site, it was because you treat anyone who disagrees with you like a pile of shit.
 
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RTDragon

RTP User
Well, I'm as much as a fanboy as you are a whiny little no-nothing. I don't believe it was revealed why the GoFundMe was shut down, quite frankly it could have been simply some asshole like you reporting it because you hate the site that much. (I'm guessing I'm a fanboy simply because I don't hate the site as much as you do)

As far as older accounts go, I recall PayPal had something to do with cub porn (I could be wrong about that?), which the site does not allow anymore. But it was never the entire site, or even a majority really.

The fact that FA has a SFW button just says it all. I'm sorry, do most porn sites have those now? Would there really be anything to view on a porn site if you clicked on it?

And for the record, I called you the AntiChrist after you retorted that I was 'Mr. FA Patriot' to which Butters responded was not relevant. It wasn't because you badmouth the site, it was because you treat anyone who disagrees with you like a pile of shit.

She wasn't treating anyone like crap unlike you who was rather hostile and rude. So you should reread what you said to her and the video that croconaw linked to that thread sums you up quite well sadly. You are not exactly a civil person Adler.
 

Butters Shikkon

Patron Saint of Queers
:p I wish the site discussion threads didn't always have to have a discussion on Pheagle's behavior. He's been banned before and just engaging him derails the thread and that sorta sucks since it's usually about a serious issue.

Just ignore/report him til the mods give him another vacation.
 

Kalmor

Banned
Banned
Alright guys lets stop with the provoking.

In my view, civil discussion goes on about issues such as this just fine until one person (doesn't matter which side of the argument, I find) says something to provoke another user (or makes a point a bit too aggressively) and then that user can't help but react to that. Of course then this turns into a huge shitstorm where the original provoker goes "hey! look! this dude is being aggressive! such a fanboy/hater/whatever" - usually aware that they~ are directly responsible for the person being angry since provocations are usually deliberate.

That doesn't, however, justify a nasty reaction to it either.

If you feel a user is being overly aggressive then definitely report it and don't react. If you sense that they are trying to lure you into saying something reactionary then be the better person and exercise some self restraint and report it if you feel it's getting out of hand. We'll look into it.
 
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