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Server Hardware Fault

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TheSnowedOne

The one and only pink fillyfox
It wasn't hacked. We've been hacked before. Hell, even I've had my account jacked (oh, for shaaame!) and each time we've been like "SUP! Bad shit went down. Here's what happened. Tatonka."

This is a hardware issue. Annoying, aggravating and awful. But not a hack, far from it.

Must be the month for hardware issues; Alicorn (one of the Furnet servers) has a couple of half-dead drives in it causing all sorts of fun issues; it is still limping at the moment whilst we gear up to move to a new server for it (if only IRC services got these things called 'donations' - we just get trolls and irate users complaining how we are not available 24/7 to answer their every call - I dont suppose you want to swap? ;)).

It is always curious though how the 'oh they were hacked' line does seem to come up whenever any server has an issue these days; regardless of if there is any evidence or not. :rolleyes:
 
I think both of these could work well and encourage furs to do more; even if it is just something like extra avatar space or a little paw beside their name as a donator. The important thing is to keep the site free for access - since this is how a majority of artists are able to get the attention they need to do art.

I'm not saying remove the donation button. I'm just saying we shouldn't rely on charity alone.

When it comes to wish lists, I'm afraid FA can't afford to care about special demands right now, also regarding how much more special features would task the currently fragile hardware, including on uploading, downloading, and server access issues, and how much more coding time would be going into it that seems better off spent for other things right now. It's what FA could be looking forward to when things are running smoothly and steady significant funding will be in, which, speaking from experience, they probably won't be doing even when FA will be up again in a week or two.

As for adding a payment option.. most of the artists I know barely scrape by as it is; taking more out of their meagre pockets would only make them go elsewhere - or certainly organise commisions via alternative sites. :(

I've said it before. Is it really so bad to only get $9.95 out of your $10 commission? $99.75 out of your $100 commission? We're talking about cents per individual transaction here.
 

DolphinAMD

DolphinAMD
Hmm...I just checked the FA site and I got a 403 Forbidden. Is the server back up? It used to be a unable to connect message.
 

Selunca

Member
Best wishes to the staff on getting it fixed, and the site will be missed while its down.
I'd donate but at the moment I barely am managing myself.
GOOD LUCK!
 

TheSnowedOne

The one and only pink fillyfox
I'm not saying remove the donation button. I'm just saying we shouldn't rely on charity alone.
Oh that's obvious and perhaps I should have clarified that better.

When it comes to wish lists, I'm afraid FA can't afford to care about special demands right now, also regarding how much more special features would task the currently fragile hardware, including on uploading, downloading, and server access issues, and how much more coding time would be going into it that seems better off spent for other things right now. It's what FA could be looking forward to when things are running smoothly and steady significant funding will be in, which, speaking from experience, they probably won't be doing even when FA will be up again in a week or two.
I understand where you are coming from. For one thing these 'special demands' can wait - priorities first. They were just ideas for generating further income and also do not have to be huge either. Im sure there are many simple 'little things' that could be set up - I do not think there is a need for subscription bonuses to be ground-breaking/huge.

I've said it before. Is it really so bad to only get $9.95 out of your $10 commission? $99.75 out of your $100 commission? We're talking about cents per individual transaction here.
Personally no. But Im not a struggling artist. And I know people who really would miss that extra few cents or so. Id rather not be taxing the artist community.
 
It wasn't hacked. We've been hacked before. Hell, even I've had my account jacked (oh, for shaaame!) and each time we've been like "SUP! Bad shit went down. Here's what happened. Tatonka."

This is a hardware issue. Annoying, aggravating and awful. But not a hack, far from it.
ah I see, well thanks for telling me, I just needed to confirm to my friends that it was just bad hardware and nothing more, as for your account being comprimized, lol yeah I did read about that somewere, the one doing it left a funny message under your account, and the most damage he/she did was leave you a little red faced and gave everyone else a good chuckle due to the embarrassing nature of the message, but no real damage was done, I shall let them know that they don't need to worry now, its simply a hardware malfunction, much like what happened to the raid array that hosted most of the furry sites on the east coast of the usa which included the funday pawpet show, so I will let my friends know that their speculations has been disproven.
 

dmfalk

Member
Hmm...I just checked the FA site and I got a 403 Forbidden. Is the server back up? It used to be a unable to connect message.

May seem odd in saying this, but I think it's definitely a step in a positive direction. Here's to hoping (although still expecting a possible week of FA downtime- I hope not that long!)...

d.m.f.
 

Baby Giraffe

C4 Bunneh!
you know, for one i see a lot of people getting in a tizzy... relax, your pr0n will be back. patience, grasshopper, patience. grumbling about it is only going to make you look like a tard. let them do the work they need to do.

I'm not upset about a lack of that. I'm upset that fate had to make the servers explode the DAY I got situated and 4 days after I sighned on.

I have luck like that.

I'd donate. My check comed in friday so we'll see how that works out.:-D
 

Nanakisan

Wild lunatic!
meh all i know is the admins will bring back our favorite place soon.
so for now I'll be patient and probably flood the forum with MeMe junk
hehehehhee
 

Crossdouble

Banned
Banned
well I'd like to send you some money, but I do not have a credit card.

But anyway, hope stuff can be solved soon.
 

Kilroy

Mischief Maker!
Wish I could help! I certainly use the site enough :p But alas, I can barely afford food for myself this week! Why couldn't this happen a few weeks from now, when I could help out? :p (Well, why couldn't it just not happen at all? But alas, I know how hardware issues can be! Never know when they'll break sometimes!)
 

stevedu

New Member
As the one-guy IT Department, I understand the frustration of the current situation with FA. Unexpected things happen all the time. From small user-error to catastrophic failure like this. Backups are always a good thing. As we all know FA is a donation-funded site. There is no bottomless pit of funds to purchase top-of-the-line equipments to ensure 99.9% up-time.

For those whom does not work in the administration field, especially IT, please understand it is almost alike the engine block of your car went bad and needs replacement. Not to mention the funds needed, the time will be spent on the process to restore functionality are not short and easy. Please donate if you can. The least you can do is offer your support to the FA administrative team and keep your fingers crossed.

Remember the last time your computer went down and how frustrated you felt? Now imagine that in a massive scale with smallest amount of time, support and money.

If you believe all these failure were caused by crappy equipments, negligence of the hosting facility/FA staff, or any excuses you can think off. Please remember the damage is done, there is no need to go back and beat it (no puns intended). Focus and work together to get the situation solved as soon as possible.

Oh and as for trolls, feel free to browse /b/ while FA is working it is best to get back online.

Just my quarter (inflation adjustment from 2 cents).
 

redfoxnudetoons

Banned
Banned
a.) Donations. Everybody keeps talking about donations. While I find the thermometer a nice optical gimmick that might actually help a little bit...I mean c'mon people, we're effectively talking about CHARITY here! And we all know charity alone hardly gives us not even a tenth of the funding we need for whatever we're doing, be it AIDS prevention, cancer research, or building and maintaining servers.

b.) Mandatory fees. Bullshit, as others have said. We're getting all this for free, and if that'd change, either for everybody or just for artists, it'll only initiate a mass exodus. Not to mention EU fraud legislation if TOS would suddenly change for everybody having joined before the change.

c.) "Special features", aka "luxury bling-bling for your money", be it t-shirts or special coding or customization features. Certainly not a thing for the masses, and just a few people interested won't be worth much of the effort, certainly not at this time. Not to mention some, maybe most of the listed wish lists of "special customization features" wanted here would only cause even more trouble than we already have with this current setup.

Therefore:

d.) Create a standard one-click payment service such as eGold for FA commissions, and automatically take percentages for FA. If it's only a few cents per transaction, it'll be a classic win-win situation: The individual funding sponsors will hardly even notice, while the sheer amount of commissions everyday on FA will create a funding that FA never even dreamt of before. Just tell people it all goes into site maintenance, and nobody will even care. Much more reliable and stable than mere charity funding even.

I realize that while the site is down right now, donations are the only way to bring it back. But as soon as it'll be back up, the first thing you guys should be looking into is talking to eGold. And even if eGold won't cooperate, I'm willing to bet that the effort of really creating something like FurFund(tm) as an anonymous one-click payment service for furries will prove a true gold mine for the person getting it done first.

Finally someone with a little sense around here.

It's good to have intelligent discussion on the thread again.

=^.^=

I do like the of eGold. this is finally a suggestion that could actually be feasible, as long as they're not like paypal and forbid the use of their services for porn...
 
I will be needing servers in the possibly near future. What kinds are best or best to start out with? And whats the price range? If you have the time to explain I mean? :p

~Sky
 

NinjaPuppy

New Member
Well If you wanted to get a higher funding source, my advice is harness the power of furries.

Hold a commission drive.

have some famous artist hold in a favor or something and offer a commission from him for the highest bidder or better yet, a raffle. ten dollars a ticket. eight of those dollars go into a new server. that way. you'd probably get half of the fandom donating for possible art, when they're actually helping FA! It's brilliant!
 
I'll be needing servers in possibly the near future. Whats the best or best to start with? Price range? If you have time to explain I mean? :p

Sorry for reposting this o_O it ended up somewhere totally different last time o_O

~Sky
 

Starfig

New Member
Hm, I'll see about donating a little bit soon as I can, I certainly make enough use of the site, I feel kinda guilty not doin' anything.
 
:p i see, this forum is basically used as a chatroom, would be easier if FA had a chat :p conversation wise i mean. I could always fix something up in FDC if dragoneer is interested? ^^

~Sky
 
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