Server Hardware Fault

[Drake_Husky]

Of course, this is EXACTLY what someone who is greedy and would do this for themselves would say. >.>
What you selfish people don't realize is that the admins are not like that.

Some admins are like that actually and are pretty damn selfish I met a few in my time, sure not all admins are selfish, but some are.

If there was some proof or reciepts or business accounting books to prove that the money is indeed being used for good use then I could see donating, right now though I don't see giving up my hard earned money to something without a little proof of the upgrades are true and are coming from the money that I donate, and I can see where this troll may be coming from in a sense. That's just my two cents, either way the money is there. Things will be fixed and eventually things will go back to normal until the next time something occurs.

Either way hopefully they do spend the money on a nice hardcore server for the site, it could definatly use it with the amount of traffic going on.

 

[Javarod]

Hmmm, ifn they ever decided to have a subscription level, I wouldn't see much wrong with it, after all, the site does cost money to run. That said, I could see splitting it into two tiers, one for those of us who mostly just watch or produce a very small amount, and another pay tier for those that need more out of the site (extra storage space, more customization of their page, how about an email address in the FA domain name?, perhaps a way to put a payment option such as PayPal directly on their FA commission page).

That wouldn't bother me, so long as I get what I have now, with the exception of storage space (I don't use much, so a cap isn't a big deal to me, long as its reasonable, and for those that need the extra space, they can pay, or rotate art off as necessary). More important would be the price, $5/mo isn't all that big a deal for example, and with how many subscribers would be more than enough to fund running the site and future improvements, because even free services cost something, much of the work is done in the admin's spare time, no? Enough donations could allow them to devote more time to FA by allowing them to work less at their real job.

 

[Niiku]

I say make Furaffinity an optional paysite. Let those who pay have special options such as multiple icons, an actual whole-site search feature, unlimited amount of watches, faster connections, no ads, their artwork featured on the front page of Furaffinity as "newly uploaded art" and so on.

Those who don't pay get only one avatar option. A limited amount of people to watch, Advertisments, speed limits, and no whole-site search feature, and no "newly uploaded art" front page exposure.

It's my understanding that those who truly enjoy Furaffinity would gladly support it and in exchange Furaffinity can offer them a faster furry art finding experience.

If you do it THIS way, I can guarantee that Furaffinity can go on and on. Learn from the mistakes of previous sites. Eventually donations will dwindle and the site will go away. Take hold of this feature now.

You want to save FA? This is the way. "Optional" payment NOW!

It will still be free, technically.

Wow dude, I have to say, that was probably the most douchebaggy thing I've heard anyone say thus far in this thread.

To assume that anyone who wouldn't fork over money does not TRUELY enjoy FA is kind of a mistake. I enjoy FA very much. I do business here. BUT I cannot afford to be paying sites money just to have the right to post pictures up.

I guarantee that if FA goes paysite, me, and hundreds like me, will leave the site in favor of the various other free art galleries out there.

 

[silenced]

Some admins are like that actually and are pretty damn selfish I met a few in my time, sure not all admins are selfish, but some are.

If there was some proof or reciepts or business accounting books to prove that the money is indeed being used for good use then I could see donating, right now though I don't see giving up my hard earned money to something without a little proof of the upgrades are true and are coming from the money that I donate, and I can see where this troll may be coming from in a sense. That's just my two cents, either way the money is there. Things will be fixed and eventually things will go back to normal until the next time something occurs.

Either way hopefully they do spend the money on a nice hardcore server for the site, it could definatly use it with the amount of traffic going on.

Thank you, finally some common sense, after all, it is free! :3

Actually, donations began looooooong before Anthrocon, hard drives are fairly cheap nowadays, so where did the rest of it go? No proof? I can make the same argument about proof in this respect, and if users are actually paying, wouldnt they like to see where exactly their money is actually going instead of just a "preyfur@yahoo.com" Thanks.

 

[calaverx11]

Wow dude...just...wow...

Y'all are idiots.

Between the scam artist conspiracy theorists and the whiners who hate FA but still rely on it for porn, you guys got your work cut out for you.

 

[mukichan]

To those of you who have donated to the server fund: The donations were not used for a new server, they were used for Anthrocon tickets and various personal items. You have been scammed.

The server was only moved, no new server was bought.

I am not the only one who had posted something about this, and I realize that when Dragoneer reads this or when any of the others involved reads this it will get deleted and I may likely be banned. That course of action will only show that what I am saying is true.

0.o; WTF? Anthrocon was BEFORE this whole donating thing... :/ People come back from AC, fA was up for maybe... uh... a half-day at most... And it goes dead... The move was beginning of June. 80% of us pretty much knew this.

And, uh, who's the other person that posted something like that? I might have not read every single post in this thread, but I can say that I haven't come across anything as fucked up as this.

 

[AlexInsane]

Thank you, finally some common sense, after all, it is free! :3

Actually, donations began looooooong before Anthrocon, hard drives are fairly cheap nowadays, so where did the rest of it go? No proof? I can make the same argument about proof in this respect, and if users are actually paying, wouldnt they like to see where
exactly their money is actually going instead of just a "preyfur@yahoo.com" Thanks.

You're equating charity with a scam.

You = 101% FAILURE.

 

[Kraton]

1. You know, the ONLY thing that is completely true here is that there is no point arguing over nothing.
2. Ignore the troll.
3. Let the admins do their job.
4. No complaining, and no more trying to order the admins around, telling them what to add in and what to change. It's not your job to deal with FA's servers and any changes, so stop talking like you have any say in the matter.
5. And just wait patiently while the admins do their work to get the site back online.

*goes back to waiting patiently for the site to be back up.*

 

[Kanic]

Come on now, enough with the flaming already, Dragoneer has said many times that difference in opinion is fine, but you don't gotta be rude about it or flame others. Squash it already

 

[Kraton]

You're equating charity with a scam.

You = 101% FAILURE.

More like 158% failure on their parts. XD
Edit: Sorry, inside joke.

 

[silenced]

More like 158% failure on their parts. XD

I said nothing about a scam, or equating it to a charity, you mist the point entirely, and there is no measure of scale or percentage high enough to equate your own fail. Plus, it is easy to belittle someone isn't it, especially with using this place to create your own lil possie. Usage of common sense is free, you do know this right? hello? no one home? yeah.. keep your own belittling to yourself. Thanks.

 

[Verona]

It's gonna be at least next weekend before it's back up. They're won't be ordering the new equipment 'til Monday, and then it's gotta be shipped, unpacked, set up, configured, turned on, double-checked...and *then* they'll open it back up.

I hope, because, well i'm on DA too, but FA is way much better, especially the admins. Sometimes I have ideas to leave DA, like many artists did.

 

[Kraton]

I said nothing about a scam, or equating it to a charity, you mist the point entirely, and there is no measure of scale or percentage high enough to equate your own fail. Plus, it is easy to belittle someone isn't it, especially with using this place to create your own lil possie. Usage of common sense is free, you do know this right? hello? no one home? yeah.. keep your own belittling to yourself. Thanks.

*laughs* whatever you say dude.

 

[Amber]

***This is to all you bitchers out there***

Holy crap, are you guys seriously serious?!?

If you don't want to donate, I have a simple and easy solution for you-DON'T DONATE!

Just please don't say that the donation money isn't going to good use. Don't you guys realize that it costs money monthly to run/maintain a site of this magnitude? Don't you realize that a lot of time is put into this site and in the world we currently live in time IS money?

My personal website does not even compare to FurAffinity and yet it still costs me money monthly and a tremendous amount of time.

This site also helps a lot of artists make money via commissions. I bet if you total all the money all of the artists on FurAffinity have made because of this site it would not even come close to the money that has been donated to the site and OMG guess what? FurAffinity does not even take a cent from artists have made money because of this site.

How about the fact that FurAffinity is also a great place to make friends, and come on a free place to look at porn!! You can't tell me that the owners/admins of this site don't deserve some money for all of the good work they have done!

Oh yeah, and guess what?!?-- Donating money to them is OPTIONAL!

Last plea- Quit your bitching!!

 

[dmfalk]

I think the Amazon counter is broken again.

Very much so.

d.m.f.

 

[flinters]

It's an interesting situation to watch. In the absence of information and facts, people are quick to make up their own without any shred of evidence to back up their arguments, pro or con.

Such is the emodrama of the fandom.

As for me, I'm disappointed that the site is down as I am rather prolific and I do indeed have a good two dozen new pics to post and share. I will wait patiently and when the time comes I will share them with fans. Hardware failures happen- you deal with it as best you can. In this case, instead of a band-aid, they are going for surgery instead and I have to agree that this downtime is worth having a more reliable system in the future.

If the site went to a pay version, it would pretty much be the death knell. It's been tried before with webcomic sites and it is a sad thing. The other alternative free sites all suffer from poor design, backend support, or content. No, I'll wait for FA to come back and be thankful for what we have.

Besides, this is all a good chance for people to open up the curtains and discover there is a real world out there. Get out and enjoy it, folks.

 

[Arshes Nei]

No one said that he shouldn't put a spreadsheet on where the money is being spent, however, you made the accusation that it is a scam and it is not. Your timelines are off. Unless you're killed by a drunk driver on the 19th of June...then maybe we can make an exception

 

[Kraton]

***This is to all you bitchers out there***

Holy crap, are you guys seriously serious?!?

If you don't want to donate, I have a simple and easy solution for you-DON'T DONATE!

Just please don't say that the donation money isn't going to good use. Don't you guys realize that it costs money monthly to run/maintain a site of this magnitude? Don't you realize that a lot of time is put into this site and in the world we currently live in time IS money?

My personal website does not even compare to FurAffinity and yet it still costs me money monthly and a tremendous amount of time.

This site also helps a lot of artists make money via commissions. I bet if you total all the money all of the artists on FurAffinity have made because of this site it would not even come close to the money that has been donated to the site and OMG guess what? FurAffinity does not even take a cent from artists have made money because of this site.

How about the fact that FurAffinity is also a great place to make friends, and come on a free place to look at porn!! You can't tell me that the owners/admins of this site don't deserve some money for all of the good work they have done!

Oh yeah, and guess what?!?-- Donating money to them is OPTIONAL!

Last plea- Quit your bitching!!

Say Amber, would you do me a favor and add that person to your ignored list, followed by smiling and moving on from that little issue?
You seem like a nice enough person, so I see no point in letting that person annoy you. *offers cookie*

 

[Ashkihyena]

It's an interesting situation to watch. In the absence of information and facts, people are quick to make up their own without any shred of evidence to back up their arguments, pro or con.

Such is the emodrama of the fandom.

As for me, I'm disappointed that the site is down as I am rather prolific and I do indeed have a good two dozen new pics to post and share. I will wait patiently and when the time comes I will share them with fans. Hardware failures happen- you deal with it as best you can. In this case, instead of a band-aid, they are going for surgery instead and I have to agree that this downtime is worth having a more reliable system in the future.

If the site went to a pay version, it would pretty much be the death knell. It's been tried before with webcomic sites and it is a sad thing. The other alternative free sites all suffer from poor design, backend support, or content. No, I'll wait for FA to come back and be thankful for what we have.

Besides, this is all a good chance for people to open up the curtains and discover there is a real world out there. Get out and enjoy it, folks.

I know how you feel man, I was waiting on a commission and then what happens, bam, the server goes down. :roll: and its going to take forever for the new server to get up, oh well, at least Iggy will be able to work on it while the server is down. If the new server doesn't crash before it gets put up.

 

[Dusty-Waber]

I said nothing about a scam, or equating it to a charity, you mist the point entirely, and there is no measure of scale or percentage high enough to equate your own fail. Plus, it is easy to belittle someone isn't it, especially with using this place to create your own lil possie. Usage of common sense is free, you do know this right? hello? no one home? yeah.. keep your own belittling to yourself. Thanks.

not everyone here is paranoid

 

[Dragoneer]

remind me again, guys, which came first... AnthroCon, or the donation request?

Which came first? AnthroCon.

And I'd have to be seriously retarded to try to scam the community and blowing my money on AnthroCon and do something that obvious. Especially when A) I live within driving distance of the con and B) I pre-registered for the damn thing when I lived in Kyrgyzstan (and can proove it).

1. Hard drive died in one of the servers, was replaced. A hard drive is not a server. Please see the Site Status forum for details.

Not to mention, we didn't request or ask for money to replace the hard drive when it failed. We took money allocated to the backup server plan and bought the HD (I bought it from the Microcenter in Fairfax, VA, too.). I also overnighted another 74GB 10K RPM Raptor from Newegg to have on hand as a hot-spare in case anything were to go wrong (Gushi currently has it, and I'll be picking it up from him soon).

Actually, donations began looooooong before Anthrocon, hard drives are fairly cheap nowadays, so where did the rest of it go? No proof? I can make the same argument about proof in this respect, and if users are actually paying, wouldnt they like to see where exactly their money is actually going instead of just a "preyfur@yahoo.com" Thanks.

Donations for the backup server did take place prior to AC, and that money is still held onto. A decent amount of money was raised during that drive as well, though nowhere near enough to repair and fix the problems which we are currently having. $160 of that money was used to purchase the new HD for the DB server when it failed. The rest was being kept until July to order the new backup server to ensure that everything else in the new colo could smooth itself out first. Unfortunately, as of July 1st, conditions changed in such manner that things changed themselves.

And as I have done in the past, I will once again publically post updated transaction logs of all donations to the date and to the penny next week. I have nothing to hide. I am all for concern, but if you have a question... ask it. Don't dress it up in drama and conspiracy theories.

By the by, it's "Preyfar". Not Preyfur.

 

[dmfalk]

I re-edited my last post to make it correct. I propose only allowing 'paid' artists to have the front page. It makes the most sense.

That's OK for FEATURED artists (and I wouldn't mind this feature- Everytime you check the main page, a Featured Artist is selected), but what about those of us who can't afford to pay and need the exposure? I think your idea hurts the very people that make FA what it is.

Unless you really don't care about us struggling furry artists, writers and musicians......

d.m.f.

 

[Eevee]

I say make Furaffinity an optional paysite. Let those who pay have special options such as multiple icons, an actual whole-site search feature, unlimited amount of watches, faster connections, no ads, their artwork featured on the front page of Furaffinity as "newly uploaded art" and so on.

...

You want to save FA? This is the way. "Optional" payment NOW!

"Now" is extremely relative. All of this still needs implementing.

 

[tehlynxie]

Impressive assbagerage.



Mah chicken is died (reply) NO THE CHICKEN IS A LIE!!! IIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Conspiracy scam!!! Zomg fagatards!!!


And it’s like , wow.


Lol

Any hoo, donation sent ^^. Thank you to the people who run FA for putting so much work into a FREE site for all of us. I’m impressed with how much retardation they put up with .

 

[silenced]

Say Amber, would you do me a favor and add that person to your ignored list, followed by smiling and moving on from that little issue?
You seem like a nice enough person, so I see no point in letting that person annoy you. *offers cookie*

*smiles* yeah.. another friend made in light of your thoughts of thinking someone is a degenerate, you hate them so much youll go as far as getting others to side with you about something thats not really important to make yourself look good? bravo. *claps*

"yay, ignore the asshole guy and side with me cuse I offered you a cookie!" And I thought hitler was ruthless. its comfortable hiding behind the net huh, if thats how ya get your jollies off, then you disgust me too. Take that drama elsewhere.