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[nothingkat]

That's OK for FEATURED artists (and I wouldn't mind this feature- Everytime you check the main page, a Featured Artist is selected), but what about those of us who can't afford to pay and need the exposure? I think your idea hurts the very people that make FA what it is.

Unless you really don't care about us struggling furry artists, writers and musicians......

d.m.f.

The featured artist is not what I'm referring to. I'm talking about the 'recently uploaded' artwork that moves rather fast since there are so many uploads going on. That can be limited to paying members. And since anyone can pay, anyone can have their artwork exposed. It's not FA's job to expose the artwork - but they can at least support those who support it back.

As for those people claiming that FA should NOT be a subscription site, let me rephrase that what is free should remain free. Free registration, free uploads, free gallery, free commenting and so forth..

But if you pay, you should get the better treatment. Multiple galleries, multiple avatars, customized profile page, customized gallery page, Private messaging back and forth (which is currently free for all but they should limit that), and yes, recently-uploaded exposure.

Unless people are okay with watching the site go down every 5 days only to re-donate money. This site needs some major revamping and for those who really LOVE Furaffinity will happily "donate" 5 bucks a month in exchange for...

the search feature?

 

[Kraton]

I’m impressed with how much retardation they put up with .

Me too. Even I got annoyed a couple times in here. I envy the mods and their huge amount of patience.

 

[Kraton]

The featured artist is not what I'm referring to. I'm talking about the 'recently uploaded' artwork that moves rather fast since there are so many uploads going on. That can be limited to paying members. And since anyone can pay, anyone can have their artwork exposed. It's not FA's job to expose the artwork - but they can at least support those who support it back.

As for those people claiming that FA should NOT be a subscription site, let me rephrase that what is free should remain free. Free registration, free uploads, free gallery, free commenting and so forth..

But if you pay, you should get the better treatment. Multiple galleries, multiple avatars, customized profile page, customized gallery page, Private messaging back and forth (which is currently free for all but they should limit that), and yes, recently-uploaded exposure.

Unless people are okay with watching the site go down every 5 days only to re-donate money. This site needs some major revamping and for those who really LOVE Furaffinity will happily "donate" 5 bucks a month in exchange for...

the search feature?

Should I just add you to my ignored list?

 

[Anepo]

Yea somehow i doubt you are scamming lol. Always some idiots who dont trust anyone. If you dont trust him. Dont donate. But has Dragoneer ever been proved of being untrustworthy? Not to my knowledge and if he was scamming (WHICH HE IS NOT!) He would milk this thing. Not take one big donation. So just shut up. If he was scamming also he wouldn't have a list of moderators who take care of things around here like at a company. And he does not have any reason to scam. SO innocent until proven guilty. And he is definetly not guilty! He has helped the furry communities more then anyone could imagine.

 

[Amber]

Say Amber, would you do me a favor and add that person to your ignored list, followed by smiling and moving on from that little issue?
You seem like a nice enough person, so I see no point in letting that person annoy you. *offers cookie*

Lol!

*Takes cookie and smiles happily!*

 

[nothingkat]

Wow dude, I have to say, that was probably the most douchebaggy thing I've heard anyone say thus far in this thread.

To assume that anyone who wouldn't fork over money does not TRUELY enjoy FA is kind of a mistake. I enjoy FA very much. I do business here. BUT I cannot afford to be paying sites money just to have the right to post pictures up.

I guarantee that if FA goes paysite, me, and hundreds like me, will leave the site in favor of the various other free art galleries out there.

Douchbaggy? Thanks for using this word.

Also the only person doing any assuming here is yourself. I never said that those who do not pay don't truly enjoy FA. You put those words in my mouth.

What I did say is that those who really enjoy what FA has to offer would probably not mind paying in exchange for supporting the site AND some extra features.

If you are going to leave just because they have the option to make some money, then I am glad you can enjoy making a business out of a website who gets nothing in return.

Great support!

 

[Silva-Dragon]

Some one shoot me in the foot if i ever spend five hours reading 99 pages of conspiracy theories again.

 

[Dragoneer]

Actually, donations began looooooong before Anthrocon, hard drives are fairly cheap nowadays, so where did the rest of it go? No proof? I can make the same argument about proof in this respect, and if users are actually paying, wouldnt they like to see where exactly their money is actually going instead of just a "preyfur@yahoo.com" Thanks.

By the by, Zippo, hiding behind a secondary account, intentionally causing drama and thinking that you will not be noticed by the administrative staff isn't cool. You were warned before that such behavior would have repurcussions.

Ban re-instated.

 

[nothingkat]

Should I just add you to my ignored list?

You could always just not reply or read other people's opinion. AKA: Being ignorant.

Furaffinity is costing real people real money. It's only safe to maintain it through voluntary upgrades rather than attempt to collect this cash whenever the site is going down or, in this case, is down.

It will definitely keep FA running smoothly for a good long while!

 

[Kraton]

By the by, Zippo, hiding behind a secondary account, intentionally causing drama and thinking that you will not be noticed by the administrative staff isn't cool. You were warned before that such behavior would have repurcussions.

Ban re-instated.

*gives bearhug* Yay for the admins! ^_^

 

[Sslaxx]

By the by, Zippo, hiding behind a secondary account, intentionally causing drama and thinking that you will not be noticed by the administrative staff isn't cool. You were warned before that such behavior would have repurcussions.

Ban re-instated.

Thanks, Dragoneer. You may want to ban silenced0 (his sock-puppet account), too.

 

[jd345]

By the by, Zippo, hiding behind a secondary account, intentionally causing drama and thinking that you will not be noticed by the administrative staff isn't cool. You were warned before that such behavior would have repurcussions.

Ban re-instated.

hey dragoneer, i was thinking, do you have a "Ban E-Mail Address" on your options? at Nsider, there was 2 ways to ban a Nsider by "Ban account" if the user has another account, the admins chose "ban address" so they'll be ban for the time you wanted them, try making a power to a admin here at the fourms ^_^

 

[Kraton]

Har-har!

 

[Dragoneer]

hey dragoneer, i was thinking, do you have a "Ban E-Mail Address" on your options? at Nsider, there was 2 ways to ban a Nsider by "Ban account" if the user has another account, the admins chose "ban address" so they'll be ban for the time you wanted them, try making a power to a admin here at the fourms ^_^

I can ban several ways. I prefer not to have to, but I will when it comes to drama.

I'm all for asking questions and people wanting to know where their money is going. It's smart. Trust, but verify. However, causing drama and conspiracy theories of it isn't going to be tolerated.

 

[dmfalk]

Haha gosh furries are loaded with money! We donate so so much XD

I wish that were true- As it is, it looks like only ~2% of FA's users are even chipping in a buck. The average is less than $25.

We can do better than that!

d.m.f.

 

[Anbessa]

The featured artist is not what I'm referring to. I'm talking about the 'recently uploaded' artwork that moves rather fast since there are so many uploads going on. That can be limited to paying members. And since anyone can pay, anyone can have their artwork exposed. It's not FA's job to expose the artwork - but they can at least support those who support it back.

huh? anyone can pay? do you have numbers, please, since I doubt you know what you are talking about.
and it being not FA's job to expose artwork, answer me this: what are the numerous galeries for if not for exposing art?

[QUOTEAs for those people claiming that FA should NOT be a subscription site, let me rephrase that what is free should remain free. Free registration, free uploads, free gallery, free commenting and so forth..[/QUOTE]

agreed 100%. every subscription and stuff shoudl remain optional. not everyone can afford monthly payments and some countruies are simply ignored by paypal. and maybe other services, too.

But if you pay, you should get the better treatment. Multiple galleries, multiple avatars, customized profile page, customized gallery page, Private messaging back and forth (which is currently free for all but they should limit that), and yes, recently-uploaded exposure.

agreed, but most of the ideas you offer are more or less useless gimmicks. customized galeries and front pages rarely work like intended, and it's a fact that the people at large tend to look for buttons in exact the same places, and if one button is somewhere else they can't find it and go somewhere else. would you want that? not really, I guess.
who needs multiple galeries? if you do drawing and fursuits, two related accounts work quite well. and more accounts that are used shouldn't be allowed in the first place anyway. and why limit PM traffic for non-paying users? the reason for it just eludes me.
all things you propose would only create elitist groups for no reason.

Unless people are okay with watching the site go down every 5 days only to re-donate money. This site needs some major revamping and for those who really LOVE Furaffinity will happily "donate" 5 bucks a month in exchange for...

the search feature?

there are more important things that this dreadful search feature. besides, FA going down every 5 days? gee, I must have failed to notice it until recently...

keep on distributing your ideas and thoughts, but please keep them practical.

 

[Kraton]

I wish that were true- As it is, it looks like only ~2% of FA's users are even chipping in a buck. The average is less than $25.

We can do better than that!

d.m.f.

Sorry. I wish I could donate, but I haven't had a job in a year and a half, and all I have in my wallet is a single canadian penny, which can't really be donated can it?
Though if there were a way to donate that penny, I would.

 

[Kaibo]

Dragoneer, 1 thing, silence is NOT zippo, zip isn't even registered on the forums since his original account ban was never lifted

 

[Dragoneer]

Dragoneer, 1 thing, silence is NOT zippo, zip isn't even registered on the forums since his original account ban was never lifted

The e-mail address and other information tells another story.

 

[jd345]

I can ban several ways. I prefer not to have to, but I will when it comes to drama.

I'm all for asking questions and people wanting to know where their money is going. It's smart. Trust, but verify. However, causing drama and conspiracy theories of it isn't going to be tolerated.

well i'm not doing that, but i got it alot when i was at Nsider, and we called them Spammers, we Nsiders had a lot of trems for text, like SPAM (means Super Pathetic Annoying Messages)

 

[Kraton]

Dragoneer, 1 thing, silence is NOT zippo, zip isn't even registered on the forums since his original account ban was never lifted

I'm thinking maybe Silence0 was using a whole new account with new email address, etc. Though I'm not in his head, so I don't know for certain.

Edit: or... maybe not. *shrugs*

 

[dmfalk]

hmmm hopes its SUN This time and not all wiggely x86 arc thay gona run this time

Sun have been using x86 hardware for as long as I can remember- And that goes back to '91. Thing is, they do it DAMN efficiently with blazing fast server response. Suns are the ONLY x86 machines that have ever truly impressed me, and why I think getting Sun servers would be the best way to go.

To the admins, especially 'neer and Yak: Please seriously consider getting Sun servers.

THEY are shorts-creamingly awesome.

d.m.f.

 

[nothingkat]

huh? anyone can pay? do you have numbers, please, since I doubt you know what you are talking about.
and it being not FA's job to expose artwork, answer me this: what are the numerous galeries for if not for exposing art?

As for those people claiming that FA should NOT be a subscription site, let me rephrase that what is free should remain free. Free registration, free uploads, free gallery, free commenting and so forth..

agreed 100%. every subscription and stuff shoudl remain optional. not everyone can afford monthly payments and some countruies are simply ignored by paypal. and maybe other services, too.




agreed, but most of the ideas you offer are more or less useless gimmicks. customized galeries and front pages rarely work like intended, and it's a fact that the people at large tend to look for buttons in exact the same places, and if one button is somewhere else they can't find it and go somewhere else. would you want that? not really, I guess.
who needs multiple galeries? if you do drawing and fursuits, two related accounts work quite well. and more accounts that are used shouldn't be allowed in the first place anyway. and why limit PM traffic for non-paying users? the reason for it just eludes me.
all things you propose would only create elitist groups for no reason.




there are more important things that this dreadful search feature. besides, FA going down every 5 days? gee, I must have failed to notice it until recently...

keep on distributing your ideas and thoughts, but please keep them practical.

Furaffinity is well known for going down. I seriously hope you did not take my '5 days' as being anywhere near an accurate number. But at least you probably caught my idea.

As for what I offered for subsciptions, yes, they are gimmicks. But they are something. If you want to offer your own ideas or fix up what I offered, feel free. Most people tend to simply say "OH THAT'S STUPID" rather than say:

"Well how about this , instead..."

It would be nice to hear what options people would be willing to pay for. Naturally, everyone wants it free but I'm talking to those who would be willing to pay for various features.

As for FA being the museum and not the presenter, that's what I am referring to by "FA not responsible for exposing art". No one should get special treatment.

And paying for upgraded options are not 'special treatment'. There are people who will happily pay and never use any optional features.

I also was not referring to Paypal. It's an obvious choice to have but money orders plus many other online credit card payment services are there for the taking. I'm not to familiar with a majority of them but Paypal is definitely not the only one.

 

[LoinRockerForever]

1. Hard drive died in one of the servers, was replaced. A hard drive is not a server. Please see the Site Status forum for details.
2. Request for Donations for a new server came AFTER Anthrocon. This is a different issue altogether. Server being moved has nothing to do with the requests.

I find out you're using dupe accounts to bolster your argument, yes I will ban them.

Well, there you go. That ends the trolls argument, and explains that.
=D

 

[Anbessa]

wait, what? is this zippo guy probably located in switzerland? that nick suddenly reminded me of some spamming idjit who used to annoy the hell out of a german furry forum...