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Server Hardware Fault

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Artie

Member
It kind of makes me laugh that people want to see proof of where this money is going now, when it's already been stated that servers will be ordered on Monday. There can't be proof of something that hasn't been done yet.

I have no doubt that on Monday there will be a post detailing the hardware that has been purchased with all its specs and how much it cost, once the actual purchase has been made.

And if I may ask, as epic of an upgrade as this is sounding like it's going to be, can we see actual photos of the servers once they arrive, and of them being installed at the colo? ;) Not because I want proof, but just because I think it would be neat to see. :) It's always neat to actually see the stuff a site you visit is running on.
 

LoinRockerForever

Interesting...
***This is to all you bitchers out there***

Holy crap, are you guys seriously serious?!?

If you don't want to donate, I have a simple and easy solution for you-DON'T DONATE!
And this is true too.

But in all seriousness, if you visit this site like I do(and you know who you are lol) You should try and make a donation, I did. (Honestly I think its only fair)
 

Kraton

Single Wolf
It kind of makes me laugh that people want to see proof of where this money is going now, when it's already been stated that servers will be ordered on Monday. There can't be proof of something that hasn't been done yet.

I have no doubt that on Monday there will be a post detailing the hardware that has been purchased with all its specs and how much it cost, once the actual purchase has been made.

And if I may ask, as epic of an upgrade as this is sounding like it's going to be, can we see actual photos of the servers once they arrive, and of them being installed at the colo? ;) Not because I want proof, but just because I think it would be neat to see. :) It's always neat to actually see the stuff a site you visit is running on.

I agree. I'm interested in seeing what the server equipment looks like, as I've never seen that kinda thing before.
 

Kaibo

New Member
I'm thinking maybe Silence0 was using a whole new account with new email address, etc. Though I'm not in his head, so I don't know for certain.

Edit: or... maybe not. *shrugs*


I've known Zippo for a while now, he has changed and he's drama free now, but me thinks Dragoneer has a grudge on him.
 

Kraton

Single Wolf
And this is true too.

But in all seriousness, if you visit this site like I do(and you know who you are lol) You should try and make a donation, I did. (Honestly I think its only fair)
What should be taken most note of here is "should" and "try." Meaning if you think you can afford it and can actually send the money, it would be rather nice and generous of anyone who donates.
Share the wealth, right? ^^
 

Fernin

6150 rpm and spinning.
Simple fact, the second you limit the abilities of people who wish to post or keep their art on FA or the ability for others to find and view that art the site will loose a substantial number from it's user base. The same thing will happen if you limit communication or community tools to paying accounts. FA has succeeded as well as it has for basically one reason: it's free and it's effective. As soon as it becomes a pay site, all those who lack the spare funds to access will leave and with them will go a large part of the communities love and support.

Or at least that's how I see it.


~Fernin
 

Kraton

Single Wolf
I've known Zippo for a while now, he has changed and he's drama free now, but me thinks Dragoneer has a grudge on him.
Okay, okay. No need to jump me or anything. I don't know the guy, I'm just stating possibilities, regardless of what the chances of them being true are.
*offers cookie* truce?
 

Kraton

Single Wolf
Simple fact, the second you limit the abilities of people who wish to post or keep their art on FA or the ability for others to find and view that art the site will loose a substantial number from it's user base. The same thing will happen if you limit communication or community tools to paying accounts. FA has succeeded as well as it has for basically one reason: it's free and it's effective. As soon as it becomes a pay site, all those who lack the spare funds to access will leave and with them will go a large part of the communities love and support.

Or at least that's how I see it.


~Fernin
*gawks a moment* Wicked-cool avatar. o_o
 

Kaibo

New Member
Okay, okay. No need to jump me or anything. I don't know the guy, I'm just stating possibilities, regardless of what the chances of them being true are.
*offers cookie* truce?


*chuckles* i'm not jumpin anything mate, just saying whats on the ol nuggin
 

Dragoneer

Site Developer
Site Director
Administrator
Oh, I'm sure you know that...

...Zippo.
Kaibo is not Zippo.

I've known Zippo for a while now, he has changed and he's drama free now, but me thinks Dragoneer has a grudge on him.
Yes, and the condition of Zippo's original unbanning was that he behave. Starting conspiracy theories and accusing us of such nature when we haven't even had time collect all the donations, process them or purchase the new equipment is... stupid.

We do not need drama over this, and I will not tolerate it.
 

Kraton

Single Wolf
Join date today, your first post was to claim Zippo != Silenced/Silenced0.

'Neer, you may need to (re-)instigate an IP ban?
Good point. Buuut, I'm not getting into this. I don't want to argue, and most of this, though with good reason, seems mostly like assumptions to me. If there's a chance of being wrong and being hated in the end for being wrong, I'd rather not take sides.

As a wise old Ent once said, "I am on nobodies side, because no one is on my side."
I take no sides, except my own. Hey, someone has to look after my sorry ass. XD
 

Kaibo

New Member
Join date today, your first post was to claim Zippo != Silenced/Silenced0.

'Neer, you may need to (re-)instigate an IP ban?

ok, before you start accusing ppl, do your homework, Dragoneer knows who i am and i am certainly not Zippo, yes i joined today because Zippo got me aware of this ordeal and i can't leave a message when you're no member.
 

Anbessa

Member
As for what I offered for subsciptions, yes, they are gimmicks. But they are something. If you want to offer your own ideas or fix up what I offered, feel free. Most people tend to simply say "OH THAT'S STUPID" rather than say:

"Well how about this , instead..."

there is actually a thread going on not far away where these things are discussed. there are enough good ideas out there. I do not need repeating them.

of course, mindlessly bashing somebody else's ideas is rude; I tried to give reasons why I don't think the ones you brought up here are good ones.

It would be nice to hear what options people would be willing to pay for. Naturally, everyone wants it free but I'm talking to those who would be willing to pay for various features.

that's what I thought you were. many other propose such ideas, too, but make it sound as though they'd want it mandatory, whcih would kill every fandom-related site quickly. quicker than relying on donation, believe me. people on the net are that way.

As for FA being the museum and not the presenter, that's what I am referring to by "FA not responsible for exposing art". No one should get special treatment.

then you should remove all recent submissions from the starting page per se. because if someone does not want to pay, or simply can't, nobody can tell for sure. so it wouldn't be fair to exclude a high-class artist, struggling to live being a student, say we, from that function because s/he can't afford the couple green, while someone who barely knows how to hold a pencil, and draws for the lulz - but has the funds - clutters that page with stick figures. as you said, noone should get special treatment.


And paying for upgraded options are not 'special treatment'. There are people who will happily pay and never use any optional features.

want to rephrase that? because I think you are contradicting yourself... every extra option you pay for is special treatment indeed, because you pay for it. if you donate, then the latter part of that statement comes true, giving money without expecting something immediately back in return. except maybe a smoothly running site, for example.

I also was not referring to Paypal. It's an obvious choice to have but money orders plus many other online credit card payment services are there for the taking. I'm not to familiar with a majority of them but Paypal is definitely not the only one.

let me clarify something for you, please.
the artists and audience on FA doesn't indeed hail only from the north-american continent. they are from all over the world. thus, money orders won't work; money transfers take lots of time and insane fees sometimes (a money transfer between indian banks takes so long it's easier and safer to use cash there). not everybody has easy access to credit cards good to pay via internet with. I for one wouldn't be allowed one for various reasons, and in other countries outside germany it's more ridiculous... soem even have no online paying service available at all.
so, what should those do? wander off and retrieve the rest of the world from their wondrous works?
excuse me, but that wouldn't work out either, optional or not.

so, what's wrong with a little exposure on the front page? some here exüplained that they found many new artists via that function.
 

Kaibo

New Member
Kaibo is not Zippo.


Yes, and the condition of Zippo's original unbanning was that he behave. Starting conspiracy theories and accusing us of such nature when we haven't even had time collect all the donations, process them or purchase the new equipment is... stupid.

We do not need drama over this, and I will not tolerate it.


Seriously mate, i think someone else is trying to make him look bad, or picking up where he left off, Zippo is not a drama queer anymore unlike some other ppl around here who accuse me
 

jd345

New Member
Seriously mate, i think someone else is trying to make him look bad, or picking up where he left off, Zippo is not a drama queer anymore unlike some other ppl around here who accuse me
ether that, or they are just spammers
 

Kraton

Single Wolf
ok, before you start accusing ppl, do your homework, Dragoneer knows who i am and i am certainly not Zippo, yes i joined today because Zippo got me aware of this ordeal and i can't leave a message when you're no member.

And THAT is why I didn't take sides.
Score one for me in making the right decision for once! *high-fives self... somehow...*
 

SilverAutomatic

The Sound of Madness
If there was some proof or reciepts or business accounting books to prove that the money is indeed being used for good use then I could see donating, right now though I don't see giving up my hard earned money to something without a little proof of the upgrades...

Check out the link below - Dragoneer already said he would post up the records as soon as he can some time next week.

http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?t=22411

Your timelines are off. Unless you're killed by a drunk driver on the 19th of June...then maybe we can make an exception ;)

rofl

By the by, it's "Preyfar". Not Preyfur.

That, is the definition of 'ownage of the trolls'.



Now, if some of you are done picking on the admins and such, we should leave them to their devices so that they can order us some nice, new, fast, porn servers.
 

flinters

New Member
Financing option:

I would personally be happy if I could post auctions on Furbuy and have them be linked directly to the images here on FA. If the artsit page had an Auctions tab that took a small percentage or a flat listing fee for auctions cross promoted, I wouldn't mind.

Even on the main page, a 'current auctions' list would be nifty.

Why Furbuy over Furbid, you may wonder? I just have to believe they have a more competent administration.

I'm sure this has been discussed to death in the past. A thought.
 
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