Server Hardware Fault

[mukichan]

basically that topic gets out of hand and should finally be closed, only announcements should be made IF there are any news.

I do not care about your crappy crap slap stuff you all talk about in here.

You click that link on the main page to get the info when it comes back online. so you go to the last page and what do you find? Lesbs talking about Amber sex and whatnot for nice subscriptions just that they show "OH YES I HAVE DONATED I AM THE KING OF FA".

NO! That topic is not there for that.

It should inform the others simply and quickly how the status is, the status of the online-being of FA, NOT about the status what the ones who give in a buck, how they are treated from now on.
Because in my opinion it does not matter we all sit in the same boat.

LOL! you're still pissed at me about that? Eesh, I thought you knew better than to dig up months old BS. xD I've moved on from that, why don't you?

 

[Indagare]

I think FA is going to have to seriously consider getting ads and possibly giving people the option to pay to avoid seeing such ads. You guys rock in the time and dedication you put into the site, but the donation system is no way to support a site long-term.

 

[mukichan]

No. To be honest, I wish the government would spoil us with equipment. Instead, we get lowest-bidder-crap, barely adequate budgets, and are told to run the world on a common house-hold PC budget. Like I said in another post, when we set up the active directory structure for all of the offices, we had a budget the same of that of the average US household does for a new PC. Things have since changed, but to be honest, when things first started, we counted ourselves lucky to be using decommissioned Optiplex GX1 desktops as servers. When I say we had to bring the Clerk's office out of the stone-age, I meant it. In a time where Vista was starting to become Microsoft's new standard, they were still upgrading to 2000, running on P2-450's, and figured 128 megs of RAM was all anyone ever needed.

Yeah - other parts of the government (military, CIA, FBI, federal stuff) get top-of-the-line, instant-support, 1-hour-hand-delivery-of-parts... but our section? Every year, it's a struggle just to keep our paychecks and health benefits, let alone trying to get a thousand or two into the budget for upgrades and maintenance.

My question, after my long mini-rant was simply this:
Shipping aside. (Shipping sucks. I've seen things take months due to back-orders. I understand that blight fully.) How could it possibly take two weeks from reciept of components to final deployment? I understand underestimating one's own abilities as to not give people false hope, but two weeks?

Congrats on the donations, congrats on the new budget. And congrats on managing a system this large with relatively few screw-ups. I'm not trying to crack on anyone. Again - I'm just trying to get a scope as to what's going on that could possibly take the time it is. And if I could offer my help in any way, let me know.

Huh, now I understand it a lil better. Thanks for clearing it up a little. :3

 

[ArielMT]

[An OT suggestion]

Please suggest that over in the "What new perks would you be willing to pay extra for?" thread.

 

[mukichan]

I think FA is going to have to seriously consider getting ads and possibly giving people the option to pay to avoid seeing such ads. You guys rock in the time and dedication you put into the site, but the donation system is no way to support a site long-term.

would both ads and donations be enough, though? I'd like to hope that there's any stable options that could support FA monthly.

 

[Kittyoffandomdoom]

basically that topic gets out of hand and should finally be closed, only announcements should be made IF there are any news.

I do not care about your crappy crap slap stuff you all talk about in here.

You click that link on the main page to get the info when it comes back online. so you go to the last page and what do you find? Lesbs talking about Amber sex and whatnot for nice subscriptions just that they show "OH YES I HAVE DONATED I AM THE KING OF FA".

NO! That topic is not there for that.

It should inform the others simply and quickly how the status is, the status of the online-being of FA, NOT about the status what the ones who give in a buck, how they are treated from now on.
Because in my opinion it does not matter we all sit in the same boat.

Wow...just wow....its funny, here i am check up on the whole FA thing and listening to MSI's Stupid MF, and BAM I found one here! Please do us all a favor, go be a waste of space and life somewhere else. I mean really, you talk about people talking about things not needed, and then you go and add more to the pile, just do like i normally do, if you don't like what you see, GO SOME PLACE ELSE!!!

Then again i can't really except better from most of you damn dirty humans, now can I...

 

[PurpleDragon]

How come all the pictures are online and accessible when FA is supposedly down? Example: http://data.furaffinity.net/art/grrrwolf/1209207947.grrrwolf_grrr-embrace-blue.jpg *scratches head, a bit lost*

Edit: If it has already been clarified on the past 114 pages: TL;DR

 

[mukichan]

How come all the pictures are online and accessible when FA is supposedly down? Example: http://data.furaffinity.net/art/grrrwolf/1209207947.grrrwolf_grrr-embrace-blue.jpg *scratches head, a bit lost*

Whoa... didn't notice that before... 0.o I wanna know too... Is the data portion of the server like... still working or something? *is tech-stupid*

 

[vlaadlynx]

Yes. The Database server is still working. Thats what actually hosts the Data. It's the webserver that's Dead.

 

[mukichan]

Yes. The Database server is still working. Thats what actually hosts the Data. It's the webserver that's Dead.

0.0 Oh!! Thank you for clearing that up!! :3

 

[Guardian]

Yes. The Database server is still working. Thats what actually hosts the Data. It's the webserver that's Dead.

Dragoneer is hording all the smexy furry data for emself :|

 

[CrystalMendrilia]

Btw of course we are running in circles! It's so damn hard to get that tail that keeps chasing us!

Hah, good point. :3

My suggestion is: even if using the buncha spare money for charity would be very sexy,

Now I'm pro Charities and all, but it would be rude if they were to donate the extra money to a charity becuase the money came from people, donating to a charity, Fur Affinity Fund. FAF (not to be confused, with FAP heh. ! *Ducks under a tomato* *SPLAT!* T_T)

Okay, for the last f**king time guys, PLEASE DO NOT TALK ABOUT PAY FOR USE OR SUBSCRIPTIONS FOR FA ONCE IT COMES BACK UP.

This thread is FOR THE OUTAGE ONLY!

I swear that whoever writes about it after this post, I will report it. every single one.

I am REALLY REALLY tired of people CONTINUOUSLY not paying attention to this.

Make your own f**king thread if you want to so we don't have to read it.


Try me. See if I don't report you.

You need to calm down. You're getting mad at people who simply are ignorant that their ideas have already been brought up, that their ideas are unwanted, that their ideas don't belong here, and that they are accidentally causing stress around them by making their suggestions. Go ahead and report them if you are so bent on being pissed off at innocent people. They won't get into trouble unless of course, they ignore everyone's warnings that they shouldn't spam their suggestions in this thread.

i wonder if anybody noticed waaay back there that 'ensue' is only one letter off from 'ensure' and it may have just been a typo...;P

We shouldn't bring that up again, it's off topic and would only cause stress. :3 Though I too think it was just a typo, but I prefer to think it was on purpose. :3 I view it as creative english because they phrased it accurately in an atypical manner. ^_^

The funny thing about English is almost nobody knows how to speak it so if something is phrased out of the norm, people get bent out of shape over it and think it's wrong because it 'feels' wrong, or 'doesn't seem right..." when in reality it IS right or IS NOT right, regardless of feeling and how it seems.

 

[Javarod]

Ooh ooh ooooooohhhh! PASS IT MY WAY! >.> I heart vintage hardware. Srsly, you're not using it! I still have fun with my Tandy Trash-80. But - ehh.

Speaking of Tandy's, anyone got a 1000HX laying around? Needn't work, just needs to look good as I want the case.

 

[pnkr0cker]

Ten bucks from me to the link. It's all I can spare right now.

As a support tech at a mom-and-pop ISP (meaning I wear more than one hat), I can vouch for that. Putting everything on one server is the least appealing option of 'em all, no matter how much horsepower it has, and I unfortunately know from experience, having done that out of necessity in the past.

if IP changing is a problem wouldnt a static ip address fix that?

 

[uncia]

Well it's nice to see so many Donated to FA. They were barely expecting to make 4k and made more than double that.

No-one said the donation drive was over yet.
The more, the better... (+thx)

 

[CrystalMendrilia]

I think FA is going to have to seriously consider getting ads and possibly giving people the option to pay to avoid seeing such ads. You guys rock in the time and dedication you put into the site, but the donation system is no way to support a site long-term.

Don't bring up money making ideas on this therad please. ^_^ This thread isn't meant for that sort of topic, and it's highly unwanted (and over done) in this thread already. Thanks you. Welcome to the Forums! ^_^

 

[redfoxnudetoons]

Total Collected:
US $10,477.15

# of Payments:
475

==

Woah....

Dragoneer must be s#!ting bricks by now.

$10K on Amazon alone!

Wow!

 

[vlaadlynx]

To all the people talking about donating 'extra' cash to charity: You forget that in addition to the server costs, there is a ~$1000 cost for bandwith every month that has to be covered. So any extra would most certainly be applied to keeping the site up in the future.

 

[CrystalMendrilia]

No. To be honest, I wish the government would spoil us with equipment. Instead, we get lowest-bidder-crap, barely adequate budgets, and are told to run the world on a common house-hold PC budget. ...

The core problem is government, like schools, don't budget their money worth a damn where it counts, so everything that branches from it suffers. If they'd stop wasting their money, it's amazing how much better things could get.

But here in California, their, 'solution' is to take advantage of the ignorance of the Californian public by putting a School BOND in every election to put more money into the schools for them to waste, and take advantage of the fact that the average person in California doesn't know what a BOND is!

There are simliar examples to be found all over the place in each state, and more than just this example per state.

It was turned off for ...

THANK YOU!!! For those of you interested in learning why the Search Engine is actually down, go seek out this guy's post on page 113. Post #1694

 

[CrystalMendrilia]

To all the people talking about donating 'extra' cash to charity: You forget that in addition to the server costs, there is a ~$1000 cost for bandwith every month that has to be covered. So any extra would most certainly be applied to keeping the site up in the future.

AND the money donated is for the Charity of Fur Affinity too. It would be like donating to help fight Cancer, and than they give the money to Mothers Against Drunk Driving. :3

I'm pro charities, but not charities giving to charities.

 

[vlaadlynx]

I think those of us who have actually read all 115 pages are now just trying to quickly head off conversations about questions that have already been asked, and discussed to death, lol.

 

[vlaadlynx]

... Dragoneer must be s#!ting bricks by now.

$10K on Amazon alone!

Wow!

He promised us 'something special' if amazon broke 10k. We're all anxious to see what that is

 

[seaweed]

You need to calm down. You're getting mad at people who simply are ignorant that their ideas have already been brought up, that their ideas are unwanted, that their ideas don't belong here, and that they are accidentally causing stress around them by making their suggestions. Go ahead and report them if you are so bent on being pissed off at innocent people. They won't get into trouble unless of course, they ignore everyone's warnings that they shouldn't spam their suggestions in this thread.

But it has already been said numerous times by numerous people, and people were (and apparantly still are) posting about it. So apparantly simple ignorance is not an excuse. Laziness seems to be the issue here.

How many times do we have to be nice and say it before we can finally get mad and try to get the point across in a more forceful way?? I asked nicely several times with no responce, but apparantly getting "pissed off" works. It has finally slowed to a dull crawl.




To keep this on topic, I wonder if i could get Yak or Dragoneer's opinion on this.. I have suggested it, but I think it got lost in all the posts..


When you order the hardware tomorrow, do you guys think you could make a new thread that you would update once a day to tell us what is going on? What is working and maybe any bugs you may be working out?
I know that alot of us techie type people may be interested in what is going on, and if not, then the others don't have to read it.. It wouldn't have to be much, it doesn't have to take a lot of time out of your day, just a 5 minute update on what is going on..
Maybe you can make it admins can post and we can only read it, so it wont end up getting bloated like this thread did..

You guys think that may be possible?


Just a suggestion.

 

[ArielMT]

So, it appears some of the most recent errors may have been caused by a server hardware fault.

Why not just run FA on the forum server? its always up

Run FA on the forums server? That'd be like fueling your body with nothing but food form McDonalds. Bloated and just not awesome.

As a support tech at a mom-and-pop ISP (meaning I wear more than one hat), I can vouch for that. Putting everything on one server is the least appealing option of 'em all, no matter how much horsepower it has, and I unfortunately know from experience, having done that out of necessity in the past.

if IP changing is a problem wouldnt a static ip address fix that?

Huh? Sorry, but you've completely lost me. The discussion (which I've fully quoted above) was about consolidating hardware, a theoretical solution which was completely examined and decided was a bad idea before this thread left the first page, not about static or dynamic IP addresses. I'm thoroughly confused as to the basic thought you were trying to express.

 

[Pi]

Huh? Sorry, but you've completely lost me. The discussion (which I've fully quoted above) was about consolidating hardware, a theoretical solution which was completely examined and decided was a bad idea before this thread left the first page, not about static or dynamic IP addresses. I'm thoroughly confused as to the basic thought you were trying to express.

He's suggesting that all trolls get static IP addresses so they can get banned easier.