Sick of the furry stigma!
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robotechtiger
MROWL! Bleh!
I've watched shows on several different fetishes, and it's always the same thing: someone into the fetish is standing before the camera, decked out in their fetish gear, trying to explain/defend/vindicate what it is they're doing and why it's not so bad.
Ok, pardon me, Mr. 'I weigh 400 pounds, dress in latex, and whip my 19 year old boyfriend silly with a cat-o-nine-tails,' but your explanation of BDSM is going to make me more interested, savvy?
Ok, sure, there's a sitgma to every fetish, including furry. However, it's only a stigma to those mundies out there who don't get it. And sadly, if you don't get it, you never will.
There has to be more than just a passing interest on the part of the mundie in order for ANY fur to make their explanations really hit home. Otherwise, we're just wasting our valuable time trying to enlighten someone who should just stay in the dark.
Ok, pardon me, Mr. 'I weigh 400 pounds, dress in latex, and whip my 19 year old boyfriend silly with a cat-o-nine-tails,' but your explanation of BDSM is going to make me more interested, savvy?
Ok, sure, there's a sitgma to every fetish, including furry. However, it's only a stigma to those mundies out there who don't get it. And sadly, if you don't get it, you never will.
There has to be more than just a passing interest on the part of the mundie in order for ANY fur to make their explanations really hit home. Otherwise, we're just wasting our valuable time trying to enlighten someone who should just stay in the dark.
People usually don't take interests in things that don't concern them. That most people are unaware or ignorant to what a furry is doesn't suprise me in the least. A similar thing happens with people who like extreme metal vs. people who don't.
"So, liek, do you really worship satan?"
"..."
Unless someone else brings it up and seems genuinely interested in knowing what a furry is from the fanbase's perspective, I wouldn't waste the breath trying to explain.
"So, liek, do you really worship satan?"
"..."
Unless someone else brings it up and seems genuinely interested in knowing what a furry is from the fanbase's perspective, I wouldn't waste the breath trying to explain.
Culebra Kai
New Member
I doubt the stigma will fully go away. However, it will become more accepted over time, just like most other groups. I also think one of the problems is that many furries are too thin-skinned when it comes to the shots taken by the fandom by non-furs. A prime example is the Encyclopedia Dramatica article that many furs love to cite as "fursecution". If you look at the site, most articles on there take shots at their subjects. If more furs could laugh at themselves, so to speak, the problem wouldn't be as bad.
As far as the people that have a problem with the fandom, more power to 'em. Nothing is ever accepted by everyone.
The easiest way to stop the hate toward the fandom is to tell anyone that asks about the whole thing, yiff and all. Most will find it odd, but to be honest, being a furry is odd. That's part of what makes the fandom so great!
As far as the people that have a problem with the fandom, more power to 'em. Nothing is ever accepted by everyone.
The easiest way to stop the hate toward the fandom is to tell anyone that asks about the whole thing, yiff and all. Most will find it odd, but to be honest, being a furry is odd. That's part of what makes the fandom so great!
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KaiserVadin
Super Saiyan 5 Kaioken x ???
This also ruins this for people who want to get married because they share the same goals in art and fursuit. Because when people see a male and female in the suit they will say " ( GUESS ) "
That_Emo_Guy
Fairly Nice Guy
If you refuse to see that a large number of people in your fandom are here just for the porn, then you're as bad as the ones just here for porn.
The furry fandom is mainly porn, with only a small percentage of people here for the art and non-sexual roleplays. If you think you're part of that small percentage, you're likely not.
The furry fandom is mainly porn, with only a small percentage of people here for the art and non-sexual roleplays. If you think you're part of that small percentage, you're likely not.
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KaiserVadin
Super Saiyan 5 Kaioken x ???
Well I saw a poll video from wolfeedarkfang and it states that not a large part of the furry fandom is not into the sexual part of it even though there are people who get turn on by nude female furrys it still doesn't me we like to F*ck animals like some trolls make us out to be .
That_Emo_Guy
Fairly Nice Guy
What you seem to forget, is that a load of furries probably say, "Oh my God fuck you I'm not into furry porn gtfo." Then they secretly go and whack off to it. A poll can never be that accurate.
KaiserVadin
Super Saiyan 5 Kaioken x ???
Yes I thought that when I saw the video.
Victoria Viper
Draws Lots of Hairy People
Actually, furry is mostly a porn thing for me, but I still take it seriously (as in, I'm serious about honing my skills as a smut artist and for providing for my audience). Kinda' irks me a little that folks here are sick of being generalized and persecuted, yet they're sorta' doing the same thing to the furry fetishists by saying they're ruining the fandom for them.
You don't want to be pointed at and decried for your furry tastes. Why do it to the fur fetishists? We're just amusing ourselves with anthro stuff, as you are, just in a different manner. ^_^;
You don't want to be pointed at and decried for your furry tastes. Why do it to the fur fetishists? We're just amusing ourselves with anthro stuff, as you are, just in a different manner. ^_^;
Beastcub
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in highschool i got teasted for liking fantasy and well geeze what are the big box office hits these days? Narnia, golden compass, LOTR, harry potter.
i have run into many anti-otakus over the years... but eventually anime was no longer a commic book store only item and could be found anywhere and now anime is a million dollar market.
furry will have its day.
as for being thin skinned and needing to laught at yourself, i have not seen all the negative media coverage (and don't want to) but i find that CSI episode funny and i saw it long before i knew of the furry stigma and before i had really delt deep into what the hell furry ment and well it did not "shock" me at all and if anything my only remark was "well i know i need to stay away from anyone who mentions 'yiff' or 'furpile'...."
plus i wonder how much of the negative coverage is staged, i mean its far to easy to rent some costumes and pretend to be furries having a furpile and air it on TV....i mean i was part of a freebie newspaper article on furries (meh it was a half decent article not bad but did not do much to salvage the reputation either) when the photographer came over to snap a few shots of me in my costume he told me they had staged a furry party with a bunch of "zoot suits" they got from a local costume place....i was like "W...T...F!" i knew it would be bad and it was >__< a bunch of ugly baggy costumes at a hula party playing limbo.....including a crappy curious george rip off, a mouse that looked like an elephant with no trunk, an easter bunny and a pink panther in need of a face lift and lypo and a bright yellow fricken rubber chicken suit *pukes
it pissed me off as the costumes were crap, were not even fursuits and they were not even furries they were the staff members of the photo studio D:
sablelieger
WIDOWMAKER 6
Opinions are like @$$#O73$; everybody has at least one... Who cares what some ignorant idiot thinks about it?
Anyways, that's just my 2 cents on the subject.
Anyways, that's just my 2 cents on the subject.
Thohi Torok
Furry - and proud of it..
As far as stigmas go, yes - it's there, and we can't ever beat it. We can only try to educate the few willing to be educated. The narrowminded individuals who stick to the tabloidial information gathered from MTV, Vanity Fair and C:S:I, will keep believing what they want to believe.
Is furry all about porn? No.. No more than being human is all about porn. Porn is a big industry, no matter what you are. Try telling people (at least over here) that you're going on a vacation to Thailand, and see if you can convince them it's not a sex-vacation.
To me, furry is - just the way I am. I'm very open and forthcoming about it, in no way imaginable "in the closet". Everyone in my life knows; my mother, my sisters, my friends, my boss, my co-workers.. Everyone. Not everyone understands. I explain some things, others I don't get into unless asked.
I'm furry, and I'm proud of it. That's not to say I'm proud of everything furry. Behind it all, I'm also human - and that's not to say I'm proud of everything human..
Bottom line, furry fandom has as many faults as any other fandom. But we're here none-the-less, and we're here for a reason. For some the reason is "yiff". For others, it's something more. Is one better than the other? I don't know.. That's an individual assessment, I would think..
Rant over, now go to bed..
Is furry all about porn? No.. No more than being human is all about porn. Porn is a big industry, no matter what you are. Try telling people (at least over here) that you're going on a vacation to Thailand, and see if you can convince them it's not a sex-vacation.
To me, furry is - just the way I am. I'm very open and forthcoming about it, in no way imaginable "in the closet". Everyone in my life knows; my mother, my sisters, my friends, my boss, my co-workers.. Everyone. Not everyone understands. I explain some things, others I don't get into unless asked.
I'm furry, and I'm proud of it. That's not to say I'm proud of everything furry. Behind it all, I'm also human - and that's not to say I'm proud of everything human..
Bottom line, furry fandom has as many faults as any other fandom. But we're here none-the-less, and we're here for a reason. For some the reason is "yiff". For others, it's something more. Is one better than the other? I don't know.. That's an individual assessment, I would think..
Rant over, now go to bed..
TerranceJones
Teh Apple Fox!
I'm so glad that I live in Kansas, where most of the people's opinion is "I love your hat!" But seriously, all we can do is continue our lives, and hope that there's an open ear willing to listen. Regardless, I am proud to be an emissary to my people, whether they are Potawatomi, or Furry.
Merion
AKA Chaberki
EEk, I think I'm lucky.
I mean, it seems that none of my fiends nor classmates has ever heard of Furry! And it's kinda safer for me that way. No stereotypes or whatever.
BTW, lol, I can imagine some of my devoted-Christian-classmates trying to destroy me with their Christian inquisition. No, really. I'm sure they would call me heretic and hate me if they knew that I'm a 'furfag'. XD Lame, but true.
I mean, it seems that none of my fiends nor classmates has ever heard of Furry! And it's kinda safer for me that way. No stereotypes or whatever.
BTW, lol, I can imagine some of my devoted-Christian-classmates trying to destroy me with their Christian inquisition. No, really. I'm sure they would call me heretic and hate me if they knew that I'm a 'furfag'. XD Lame, but true.
Nargle
HOOT
I'm kind of confused as to why people freak out about yiff, both furries and non-furries. No, I'm not into furry porn, as humans suit me just fine. But why must people be like "Eww, cartoon animals doing it? GROSS!" Sex is a huge part of being human. And.. it's not a bad thing. Everybody's got their outragious fantasies, and if yours involves furries, then that's your business. There's been worse! We're people, we've been endowed with amazing imagionations! And we're gonna use them! We aren't animals with set mating cycles and a mindset of "Let's get our business done and get out of here."
I just don't think people should be pushing their sexual fantasies onto people who are made uncomfortable by them. I'm sure it's not furries who like yiff that's given the fandom a bad name, it's the people who flaunt it and freak out everyone who's not used to it. But that's unavoidable. Like Beastcub said, even non-furries are going to flaunt it. It's a nice shock factor, get's people upset and stuff, makes them want to see shows like CSI and stuff, because they're curious about how sick the world can get. Sooner or later, though, it will lose its novelty and people will get sick of it and move on to something else. People used to get freaked out about homosexuals having sex, and before that, non-married couples!! =3
I just don't think people should be pushing their sexual fantasies onto people who are made uncomfortable by them. I'm sure it's not furries who like yiff that's given the fandom a bad name, it's the people who flaunt it and freak out everyone who's not used to it. But that's unavoidable. Like Beastcub said, even non-furries are going to flaunt it. It's a nice shock factor, get's people upset and stuff, makes them want to see shows like CSI and stuff, because they're curious about how sick the world can get. Sooner or later, though, it will lose its novelty and people will get sick of it and move on to something else. People used to get freaked out about homosexuals having sex, and before that, non-married couples!! =3
pheonix
back'n up back'n up
I enjoy just about every aspect of being a furry the only thing I don't do is draw art as I'm a terrible artist but a fairly good writer. Eventually I'll start making story's but until then I'll enjoy the art whether it be porn or not because thats me. I could care less about others negative opinions. their just opinions they don't hurt us unless you let them. their will always be a group of people around shitting on your wants and beliefs It's unavoidable. Furry has a deferent meaning for just about everyone so other furries might shit on other furry things to it's just deference of opinions clashing.
feilen
Staring Contest Champion
DANG IT!
Sorry, I made it, then my computer crashed, and I have to reinstall indesign...
But I will have it soon, hopefully...
I might have to copy some stuff off of wikifur and cite it, might be simpler
MattDragon
New Member
Well make it simple, if they ask, say, "So? What are you doing to do about it?" Its not like they have the power to changed you away, or anything! And if they go about its all about sex, sex, sex, say "Doesn't life have sex in it too? It comes with the territory."
TheGreatCrusader
Avast, Ye Scurvy Dogs!
Or, you can tell them that they can fuck themselves and that they should get that anal-fisting fetish checked out.
TH-Violinist
Advocate
DAMN IT, YOU FALL FOR THESe fucking stereotypes, if it's based only on porn, then basically the way I see it, you really do belong in the freaking CSI and CSI NY episodes.
devils
New Member
oh god that video pissed me off, i hate how people always generalize metal with satan and death. its the same way with the fandom, i fucking hate it when people generalize, if you don't know the whole story, then don't say anything about it, thats what i think. just because you saw some picture or read somewhere that all the furry fandom is about is sex, doesn't mean its true. i really hate people sometimes.
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