Site status closed?

[Emeraldwing]

I notice that instead of giving us a new thread to discuss/complain in on the current update, you guys just went ahead and closed the new thread as well. is that an implication that you don't want us openly discussing this anymore? or are you just tired of hearing our many complaints?

 

[kontonakuma]

I believe Net explained why they locked the thread.

 

[imnohbody]

Frankly, I think they should've closed the other status thread at half (at most) of its ultimate size. There's very little that was actually accomplished by the thread remaining open beyond wasting a lot of peoples' time and fostering much butthurt, while putting on a display of ignorance and unwarranted entitlement.

 

[BRN]

I notice that instead of giving us a new thread to discuss/complain in on the current update, you guys just went ahead and closed the new thread as well. is that an implication that you don't want us openly discussing this anymore? or are you just tired of hearing our many complaints?

Take whatever you want as 'implied' by the lock - but a reasonable explanation was given by the thread's poster, and there doesn't seem to be more to it than that.

 

[Emeraldwing]

Take whatever you want as 'implied' by the lock - but a reasonable explanation was given by the thread's poster, and there doesn't seem to be more to it than that.

the reason given was that another update had been posted, said update, however, was already locked upon first post, so it wasn't exactly a replacement.

 

[DracoOfZeradaith]

the reason given was that another update had been posted, said update, however, was already locked upon first post, so it wasn't exactly a replacement.

Did you SEE the whinefest that became the last (and EVERY OTHER) site status thread? I think it's smart to have locked the thread. I love furries, I love being a member of this fandom, but MY GOD when we are butthurt about something we become, collectively, the largest collection of vitriolic, rage-filled people I've ever seen. Some people need to seriously calm the fuck down. And there are others who cannot seem to post anything other than blatant hate-boners for Dragoneer, the rest of the staff, and the site itself. If you dislike something this fucking much, do yourself and everyone else a favor and go somewhere where you CAN find happiness because you're sure as hell not doing ANY good here.

It's the only post I'll make on the subject, period, end of story. FA will be up when FA is up. Life goes on. Instead of spending time complaining that the site is down or unintentionally spreading worry that the administration no longer cares about what its userbase has to say (the forums are still here, still running, and able to be posted to; if they didn't want to listen to us, they'd shut these down, too), if you have the capacity and capability to create something we will all enjoy once the site is running again, do that. "Oh, this will be awesome to post so that everyone can share in WHAT MAKES US SUCH A GREAT COMMUNITY IN THE FIRST PLACE!"

Mic dropped. I'm going to work.

 

[BRN]

the reason given was that another update had been posted, said update, however, was already locked upon first post, so it wasn't exactly a replacement.

Right, but a reasonable explanation was given for locking the second thread, too.

Hey, it's not like you can't discuss or complain to your heart's content here on the forums. Go nuts, even make a thread to do so; you don't need an admin-sanctioned replacement. I'm just saying that the threads being locked after reasonable explanations are given isn't a problem.

 

[Jaki-Kun]

I believe Net explained why they locked the thread.

Just because he's sick and/or doesn't want to explain further details doesn't mean we, the community, should lack the ability to discuss the news ourselves. I mean, from a logical standpoint, it doesn't make a lot of sense to post the update under Site Discussion if you don't want people... you know... discussing it.

 

[kontonakuma]

Just because he's sick and/or doesn't want to explain further details doesn't mean we, the community, should lack the ability to discuss the news ourselves. I mean, from a logical standpoint, it doesn't make a lot of sense to post the update under Site Discussion if you don't want people... you know... discussing it.

BRN made a point, it's not like anyone is keeping you from making a thread to discuss it.

 

[Jaki-Kun]

BRN made a point, it's not like anyone is keeping you from making a thread to discuss it.

But why should we have to? Is it because mods were concerned things would get out of hand, kind of like how they did in the last Site Status thread? It's not like creating an additional thread regarding the matter would help prevent that kind of thing. In fact, it'd only serve to push the Site Status thread itself down further in the list of threads. I'd honestly be surprised if the mods let a thread like that thrive, even if this whole section of the forums is designed for these kinds of purposes.

All I'm saying is, doesn't it seem a little counter-intuitive to make a thread in the Site Discussion forum - an update that obviously warrants discussion - without allowing people the ability to discuss it in the thread where it would make the most sense?

 

[Emeraldwing]

But why should we have to? Is it because mods were concerned things would get out of hand, kind of like how they did in the last Site Status thread? It's not like creating an additional thread regarding the matter would help prevent that kind of thing. In fact, it'd only serve to push the Site Status thread itself down further in the list of threads. I'd honestly be surprised if the mods let a thread like that thrive, even if this whole section of the forums is designed for these kinds of purposes.

All I'm saying is, doesn't it seem a little counter-intuitive to make a thread in the Site Discussion forum - an update that obviously warrants discussion - without allowing people the ability to discuss it in the thread where it would make the most sense?

this was the point I was trying to make.

 

[BRN]

You're right, that doesn't really make sense... but ain't it excusable? We've all got the tools to generate discussion here, so maybe that fact was taken for granted when the admin's thread was made.

 

[kontonakuma]

Well, since we're already here discussing the most recent update, albeit locked...

 

[coynu]

you guys seem like you're so bored you're looking for anything to nitpick at this point.

what is there even left to discuss? they've been doing the same crap since day 1 and everyone's already beaten their suggestions and grievances into the ground over it.

i think it's time to finally just sit back, shut up and let them do their thing because clearly they're in their own little world until this mess is over. that's not to say you shouldn't complain where complaints are due, but seeing as how they're so sick to death of hearing it, you might want to give their ears a break until the site's at least up and running again.

 

[mapdark]

I believe Net explained why they locked the thread.

Yeah but "I'm teh stressed and don't want to deal with this right now" is a more than questionable reason to shut down communications between admins and users.
Seriously , FA has not exactly been known in the past for stellar PR , but this is just wow.

 

[Raphial Hebert]

Yeah but "I'm teh stressed and don't want to deal with this right now" is a more than questionable reason to shut down communications between admins and users.
Seriously , FA has not exactly been known in the past for stellar PR , but this is just wow.

Honestly with all of the bull crap FA has pulled over the years, there isn't much of an excuse for "I'm stressed, stop complaining". They just need to get it together and stop whining.

 

[BRN]

The sense of entitlement bothers me most.

The admins aren't holding back on doing their best to fix up the site, that much is obvious. I'd appreciate a substantive update as much as anyone else, but my aware for "just wow" doesn't go to the admins, it goes to you two.

 

[StevenRoy]

See, "mostly dead" means slightly alive!

At least the last update was a fairly good one. To paraphrase: "We had a few problems with the database. We know what caused it; (This) and (this) is what caused it. (This) is how we're recovering, and we're nearly done. (Here) are some steps we're taking to ensure this doesn't happen again. ETA: The future."

...And there's also that SQL upgrade mentioned in an earlier update. That "should help" too. Maybe.

Of course, that (plus having to replace two conked-out hard drives) still might not fully excuse a full week (Has it been a week yet? Time is wibbly-wobbly!) of "mostly-down" time ("not all dead, only mostly dead!") but progress is progress.

(And, as the saying goes: "to forgive, divine".)

 

[mapdark]

The sense of entitlement bothers me most.

The admins aren't holding back on doing their best to fix up the site, that much is obvious. I'd appreciate a substantive update as much as anyone else, but my aware for "just wow" doesn't go to the admins, it goes to you two.

I don't feel entitled. I haven't DIED or gone into depression because FA hasn't been on for more than a week.
I just think it's ridiculous to cut communications with your website users because you feel "too stressed" and "don't want to deal with this".

It's childish and unprofessional.

Keep on white-knighting if you want to , but damn... The fact you don't see anything wrong with the attitude displayed is a bit mind-blowing.

 

[BRN]

I don't feel entitled. I haven't DIED or gone into depression because FA hasn't been on for more than a week.
I just think it's ridiculous to cut communications with your website users because you feel "too stressed" and "don't want to deal with this".

It's childish and unprofessional.

Keep on white-knighting if you want to , but damn... The fact you don't see anything wrong with the attitude displayed is a bit mind-blowing.

I genuinely don't see anything wrong... I really don't. I see room for improvement, sure, but I don't see any -fault-.

Netcat's update was substantive and useful. It told us new information about the cause and scope of the problems. It didn't give us an ETA but it was explained that it wasn't possible to give one.

It's clear that you don't want an update on the issues, you just wanted the issues fixed or a chance to yell at the admins for not having the problems fixed. Relax. FA's being fixed. It's happening. So what else do you want that's, y'know, realistic?

 

[chocomage]

No offense to anyone but how is posting on these forums helping them do their job any faster? The site will be up as soon as they are done not a moment before. How is it going to speed them up at all with constant twitter updates and what not honestly? This site costs nothing for users so a bit of down time isn't completely uncalled for.

 

[teil]

you guys seem like you're so bored you're looking for anything to nitpick at this point.

what is there even left to discuss? they've been doing the same crap since day 1 and everyone's already beaten their suggestions and grievances into the ground over it.

i think it's time to finally just sit back, shut up and let them do their thing because clearly they're in their own little world until this mess is over. that's not to say you shouldn't complain where complaints are due, but seeing as how they're so sick to death of hearing it, you might want to give their ears a break until the site's at least up and running again.

I'm pretty sure all the animosity is spawned from boredom. People are just complaining for the sake of complaining.

It's like when you have a stomach ache. You moan and groan, but it doesn't necessarily make the pain go away.

 

[sheepynene]

I'm pretty sure all the animosity is spawned from boredom. People are just complaining for the sake of complaining.

It's like when you have a stomach ache. You moan and groan, but it doesn't necessarily make the pain go away.

Actually I am pretty sure people are complaining because they are losing money by having this site down a lot of people such as me have customers waiting for things on this site and use it to make profit the holidays are coming up and for a big site mess like this you can only imagine people would be pissed if they are not making money people use this site to sell art to take commissions sell adoptables etc. once you get rid of that theirs no money coming in and with no money coming in people are struggling not everyone has two jobs and only draw for fun you have to add in the fact many of us either are full time artists freelancers etc. With a big site crash like this of course artists are going to be pissed they are LOSING money.

 

[teil]

Actually I am pretty sure people are complaining because they are losing money by having this site down a lot of people such as me have customers waiting for things on this site and use it to make profit the holidays are coming up and for a big site mess like this you can only imagine people would be pissed if they are not making money people use this site to sell art to take commissions sell adoptables etc. once you get rid of that theirs no money coming in and with no money coming in people are struggling not everyone has two jobs and only draw for fun you have to add in the fact many of us either are full time artists freelancers etc. With a big site crash like this of course artists are going to be pissed they are LOSING money.

I'm talking about the people that are bitching and getting nowhere by doing so. Just arguing back and forth, fighting for the last word. I've seen plenty of non-artists blowing up these threads with really unnecessary hostility towards everyone that opposes their opinion.

Especially in status threads, it's off-topic nonsense.

I myself am a full-time artist. I am losing money during this outage. I have bills to pay, and I'm worried for my financial situation at this point.

But yelling at the mods won't make them move any faster. It's proven quite the opposite, I think.

 

[TyraWadman]

I think it's funny how everyone talks like they know what's even going on behind the scenes...
"No response? What? That must mean they don't give a shit. My word is law. Hey folks! They don't give a shit! They don't need fuckin' sleep, what are they talking about?!"

Literally RIGHT AFTER I POSTED last night, about how someone could be sick or in a family emergency situation, they LITERALLY made a post in the forums about being sick!

Emotional stress in general is capable of making you sick. So kids, please smarten up. That shit can leave you bed ridden for days, especially if you're up all night trying to fix a problem just to appease the majority of emotional extremists out there.

These admins, in the end they only have so much power.
Please use your brains and realize they're human and appreciate it when people don't bitch at them, much like those working at a Courtesy desk in a hardware store.
Sometimes you'll get an answer you don't like because it's their Policy and you're just gonna have to suck it up and move on! Sorry!

So methinks y'all need to stop being inconsiderate dikes in general- to those that it applies to.

To those particularly passionate about Discussing the Site: Make your own thread about site discussion rather than complaining next time - before you bait dumb people into too many dumb arguments and ta-dah! You're making progress! Wow! It's like magic!