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So what's all this hubbub about FurNation?

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Lasair

Has World-Cup fever.

VitaiSlade

~TGWBT~
then entire thing is some hilarious and totally unnecessary BS XD

lol and i only add to it by even commenting 8D

lol so, as for my thoughts? so one site goes down, it does happen. if there are srs members of the fandom, it shant die. if their aren't, well then it was meant to die

8D ok done with my say now

I've been working with a friend on a new idea for a furry website for about a month or two now. Building it is going to take a good while, but we shall see how things turn out. No, the fandom will not die.
 

AnimeWolf89

Crazy Tifa Wolf
I've been working with a friend on a new idea for a furry website for about a month or two now. Building it is going to take a good while, but we shall see how things turn out. No, the fandom will not die.

true true, and good luck with that 8D

but sursly, the drama is fun to watch, for those who know not to take it seriously *cough*lolme*cough* but i gotta wonder...how sad and lonely certain people must be, because you KNOW there are people who take this stuff 1000000000000000% sursly
 

Bogrim

New Member
The funny thing is, I don't think his opinion would change anyways, considering quite a few went to his announcement to defend FA and ask for physical evidence that Dragoneer was directly responsible. When he couldn't provide said proof but only "his word", he had no grounds to fight on, and thus just took them away.

That in itself leads me to believe that his announcement accusing Dragoneer and FA for shutting down their PayPal is in fact 100% invalid, despite a mod's claim to "knowing everything".
Yes, I already said that he's wrong in his accusation. The point here isn't whether he is right or wrong, but what happened is a big loss and he's properly choosing Dragoneer as his target because he thinks of him as responsible for getting all this attention to FurNation, which got out of hand in the end.

When you consider the vast amount of people FurAffinity consists of, it’s pretty normal human behavior to just point at the head figure behind the site, and although FA has plenty of other administrators, Dragoneer is probably the most popular (or sexy ;-)).

For these reasons, I can understand why the administrator reacted the way he did, and do not feel offended despite him harshly insulting the site I visit the most. I think that if more people thought of it this way as well, then the “crisis” would be relieved much faster and FurNation can make a comeback.

However, what most of the people slamming the administrator need to realize is, this isn’t about some competition between FurAffinity and FurNation. Neither of the sites are some sort of companies trying to make profit, but community sites for users to share their artwork. All the stories and artwork submitted to FurNation is gone now, and the people who choose FurNation for their main gallery have now lost what they devoted.

If you can’t feel compassion for that (e.g. mr. [FONT=&quot]Devious Bane[/FONT]), then really, I don’t think you understand what FurAffinity is about either.
 

Lasair

Has World-Cup fever.
No, the fandom will not die.

Exactly, think about how much the fandom has been through and its still growing. Hey we made it through the 'Tyragate' incident perfectly fine.

And good luck with that site, hope all goes well for ya.

Anyway for FN its ashes to ashes, dust to dust etc etc.
 

Zakassis

Fweee!
Yes, I already said that he's wrong in his accusation. The point here isn't whether he is right or wrong, but what happened is a big loss and he's properly choosing Dragoneer as his target because he thinks of him as responsible for getting all this attention to FurNation, which got out of hand in the end.

When you consider the vast amount of people FurAffinity consists of, it’s pretty normal human behavior to just point at the head figure behind the site, and although FA has plenty of other administrators, Dragoneer is probably the most popular (or sexy ;-)).

For these reasons, I can understand why the administrator reacted the way he did, and do not feel offended despite him harshly insulting the site I visit the most. I think that if more people thought of it this way as well, then the “crisis” would be relieved much faster and FurNation can make a comeback.

However, what most of the people slamming the administrator need to realize is, this isn’t about some competition between FurAffinity and FurNation. Neither of the sites are some sort of companies trying to make profit, but community sites for users to share their artwork. All the stories and artwork submitted to FurNation is gone now, and the people who choose FurNation for their main gallery have now lost what they devoted.

If you can’t feel compassion for that (e.g. mr. [FONT=&quot]Devious Bane[/FONT]), then really, I don’t think you understand what FurAffinity is about either.
He could've chosen his words MUCH better.

If I was running a site and something I had linked to it got shut down, I'd investigate the issue myself rather than saying "oh, soandso told me this person did it, so I'm blaming them before talking to them about it!"

The point is he was quick to point the finger at another site/person before investigating it completely, and before checking to see if this so-called "FA Staff member" that warned him was actually a FA Staff member and not an impersonator trying to mask their identity.
 

VitaiSlade

~TGWBT~
hello, another furry website? tell us moar

Welllllllll, we have in mind to build something similar to a 'Ustream' or 'Livestream' with a little 'YouTube' mixed in. The twist is, it is going to be a furry-based website, kinda like FurAffinity is a furry-based DeviantArt.

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/furstream (<-- Our FA page, [when it comes back up])

http://twitter.com/furstream (<-- Our twitter)

http://www.furstream.net (<--This will be our website, we already have the URL reserved, just building the content now)
 

Bogrim

New Member
He could've chosen his words MUCH better.

If I was running a site and something I had linked to it got shut down, I'd investigate the issue myself rather than saying "oh, soandso told me this person did it, so I'm blaming them before talking to them about it!"

The point is he was quick to point the finger at another site/person before investigating it completely, and before checking to see if this so-called "FA Staff member" that warned him was actually a FA Staff member and not an impersonator trying to mask their identity.
I agree completely. He's not a strong administrator by getting this emotionally disturbed. He's still responsible for the community he has created, and he should have handled it with more professionalism.

Still, please don't blame him for reacting this way, as this isn't like losing your profile on the internet. The amount of time and money you have to put into a community site is insane, just to have it shut down by some dork who was bored enough to play around with paypal's policies regarding their paypal account.
 

AnimeWolf89

Crazy Tifa Wolf
Welllllllll, we have in mind to build something similar to a 'Ustream' or 'Livestream' with a little 'YouTube' mixed in. The twist is, it is going to be a furry-based website, kinda like FurAffinity is a furry-based DeviantArt.

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/furstream (<-- Our FA page, [when it comes back up])

http://twitter.com/furstream (<-- Our twitter)

http://www.furstream.net (<--This will be our website, we already have the URL reserved, just building the content now)

sweetness 8D
 

Devious Bane

No faith for this site
Banned

Still, please don't blame him for reacting this way, as this isn't like losing your profile on the internet.
Why blame him when we know he did it? That's kinda like taking 3 steps back into the past. Once you do something, you can't undo it. You live with it or let it drown you.
*And it's not like he could have deleted the thread and admitted he was wrong.
 
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Saillestraife

Saillestraife
Welllllllll, we have in mind to build something similar to a 'Ustream' or 'Livestream' with a little 'YouTube' mixed in. The twist is, it is going to be a furry-based website, kinda like FurAffinity is a furry-based DeviantArt.

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/furstream (<-- Our FA page, [when it comes back up])

http://twitter.com/furstream (<-- Our twitter)

http://www.furstream.net (<--This will be our website, we already have the URL reserved, just building the content now)


hhmmm i am intrigued will be interested when it comes about
 

Aurora Borealis

Eff you i'm a cat.
Why blame him when we know he did it? That's kinda like taking 3 steps back into the past. Once you do something, you can't undo it. You live with it or let it drown you.
To add:
If he would have simple said "Ok i'm sorry, [Insert stupid reason clearly because of jealousy here], I should have been more logical about this. Can you guys possibly help me find a new way of gathering donations in lieu of this development?" We would be less inclined to be railing on him as hard.


Maybe.
 
Still, please don't blame him for reacting this way

Seriously!? Who, pray, should we blame then, if not the person who threw a fit and shut down the site.

The amount of time and money you have to put into a community site is insane, just to have it shut down by some dork who was bored enough to play around with paypal's policies regarding their paypal account.

No, no, no. Nexxus/suxxeN shut down the site. By their own words, there was at least enough money to run it until Jan 1st, and it would have lived past then (PayPal is not the only way to collect donations).

I'll say it again. Nexxus/suxxeN shut down the site. Not "some dork."
 

VitaiSlade

~TGWBT~
hhmmm i am intrigued will be interested when it comes about

Well don't be afraid to click that +Watch when FA comes back up and +Follow on Twitter. :) I'll be shooting updates to both of those places. I'm anxious to get it started and see how well it does, but it could be a good few months away just to warn you. It's a big project to build a website like this from scratch.
 

Vgm22

Furry/Scalie Of Mystery
I'll say it again. Nexxus/suxxeN shut down the site. Not "some dork."

Which I keep hearing that he's going to have his ass kicked as it wasn't his right to shut down as he's not the owner or something like that.
 

Bogrim

New Member
FA is about furry porn, furry porn, and.... um... I think more furry porn.
Maybe on the surface, but furry porn comes from art and art is created by artists seeking acceptance and acknowledgement. Some people even make art their life, taking it beyond the hobby. (There's a few artists that make a living of commissions as you might recognize.) My gallery is a big part of my life, and I'm sorry the site's down. I would be even more sorry if my gallery was gone permanently.
 
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