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So what's all this hubbub about FurNation?

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BishyT

Oh hai!
They may have deleted the message from the front page, but it's still right there on the forums.

http://furnation.com/index.php?showtopic=78088

Originally this topic had a whole bunch of guys from FA rightfully questioning him for not posting proof, but they've now all been deleted with a simple "STFU" retort.

Skye Menjou: "Kids, you have much to learn about the actions of FA in the past.
I have been around long enough to know everything."

So apparently people from FA aren't allowed to have opinions over there, unless you want them to be deleted.

Oh, and i've already mentioned this briefly over in the furfaggotry section of the ED forums, so i'm sure some skilled article editor will pick up on it soon.
 
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Kesteh

Twenty
I have been asked for proof on this issue. Here is the proof: words.
Not accepted, brah.


Also... figures. It's a social stunt. FA went down so they HAD to have something desperate going on, right? Yeah...he points at money trouble despite the fact that it was literally a colo's fault.
So it MUST have been FA doing this!
Social engineering failure.


All I am seeing over there is just word of mouth--zero credibility for proof.
 
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JAH2000

drunken wolf master
hmmmm i see a lot of hot air but no proof
 

Vgm22

Furry/Scalie Of Mystery
I don't believe this proof as to me it's not proof. He should out his so called "informent" and let them tell the tale or whatever they heard or saw.
 

Zakassis

Fweee!
Simple:

It's the "We got caught red-handed doing something we weren't supposed to be doing, so we're going to point the finger at something more popular than us to put all of the blame on them!" defense.
 

xcliber

HUGS DAMNIT! U no u want 2!
Just out of curiosity, does anybody know what part of the PayPal user agreement they violated? Same goes for FA. Why did Paypal pull FA's donations account?

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RyuDragnier

Member
Well, lo and behold, the thread is back with supposed "proof" that Dragoneer was involved.

http://furnation.com/index.php?showtopic=78088&pid=219247&st=0&#entry219247

I still don't think that's "proof" that Dragoneer did anything about it. For all he knows, it could've been some random person acting like they were on Staff to try and get them shut down.
That wasn't real proof. It's his words. We can't trust the words of one person. If he gave us visual proof, I could possibly believe him. But he hasn't, so I don't believe him.
 

Majy_The_Dragon

Now in Technicolor !
I demand real proof from FN. If they want to say FA did something show me the money. Don't hide behind every thing.
 

Furlock

Witty Crinklebutt
Just out of curiosity, does anybody know what part of the PayPal user agreement they violated? Same goes for FA. Why did Paypal pull FA's donations account?

Aye, I'd like to know, as well.
 

VitaiSlade

~TGWBT~
I can't wait to see it either. ^^ I wonder if it's going to be added to their ED page or if it's going to be another new page?


Done and done. =3 You're welcome.

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/FurNation#Nexxus_Proves_Himself_a_Petty_Troll.2FThe_Furnation_Paypal_is_down.21

Nexxus Proves Himself a Petty Troll/The Furnation Paypal is down!

On Tuesday, December 8th 2009 FurNation's Paypal account was revoked for violating the 'Terms of Use' of Paypal's donation feature (due to the massive quantities of pornographic material on their website). In response to this, Nexxus decided to blame a fellow furry (and website owner of FurAffinity, a competitor website) Dragoneer. He stated that Dragoneer had 'alerted Paypal and flagged FurNation for violation' with no solid proof other than "A friend of mine said so." But of course, he was not about to reveal the name of that said friend, leading many to wonder about the validity of his statement. Of course, even if Dragoneer HAD done such a thing, Paypal would most likely not close a donation account until it was investigated first nor would it refuse to re-open it after it was investigated and found to not be in violation, which it of course was.

After much ranting about how much he dislikes Dragoneer and spewing jealousies of FurAffinity's success, he cries out for help, begging the members of his site for money yet again 'to save FurNation', using this as his stance that he is just a victim and needs money to get back on his feet. If he can't get enough donations, he says he will shut down FurNation.

After the 'rant/blame game' post, many members FurAffinity were informed of the misleading and drama-filled update and went to post their own thoughts on his baseless blame. Of course the first few posts were in full support of FurNation and went along blindly to his accusations, but then posts began popping up supporting FurAffinity and calling out Nexxus on his lack of proof and immature way of handling things. Some members of FurAffinity signed up JUST so they could post a reply. It wasn't long before those replies were deleted. Every single one of them had been picked out individually and removed, the topic closed, leaving only the posts supporting 'how wonderful' FurNation was and 'how they had been wronged by FurAffinity' doing nothing but proving even more how pathetic they are. Congratulations Nexxus, you win the FAIL OF THE DAY for December 8th.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6578/furnationarewhinybitche.png
 
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Vgm22

Furry/Scalie Of Mystery
Just out of curiosity, does anybody know what part of the PayPal user agreement they violated? Same goes for FA. Why did Paypal pull FA's donations account?

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With paypal. You're not supposed to use your paypal account for adult things like porn. If you're found out to be doing this. Then your account gets locked and you get banned immeditaly.
 

Furlock

Witty Crinklebutt
Done and done. =3 You're welcome.

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/FurNation#The_FurNation_Website

Nexxus Proves Himself a Petty Troll/The Furnation Paypal is down!

On Tuesday, December 8th 2009 FurNation's Paypal account was revoked for violating the 'Terms of Use' of Paypal's donation feature (due to the massive quantities of pornographic material on their website). In response to this, Nexxus decided to blame a fellow furry (and website owner of FurAffinity, a competitor website) Dragoneer. He stated that Dragoneer had 'alerted Paypal and flagged FurNation for violation' with no solid proof other than "A friend of mine said so." But of course, he was not about to reveal the name of that said friend, leading many to wonder about the validity of his statement. Of course, even if Dragoneer HAD done such a thing, Paypal would most likely not close a donation account until it was investigated first nor would it refuse to re-open it after it was investigated and found to not be in violation, which it of course was.

After much ranting about how much he dislikes Dragoneer and spewing jealousies of FurAffinity's success, he cries out for help, begging the members of his site for money yet again 'to save FurNation', using this as his stance that he is just a victim and needs money to get back on his feet. If he can't get enough donations, he says he will shut down FurNation.

After the 'rant/blame game' post, many members FurAffinity were informed of the misleading and drama-filled update and went to post their own thoughts on his baseless blame. Of course the first few posts were in full support of FurNation and went along blindly to his accusations, but then posts began popping up supporting FurAffinity and calling out Nexxus on his lack of proof and immature way of handling things. Some members of FurAffinity signed up JUST so they could post a reply. It wasn't long before those replies were deleted. Every single one of them had been picked out individually and removed, the topic closed, leaving only the posts supporting 'how wonderful' FurNation was and 'how they had been wronged by FurAffinity' doing nothing but proving even more how pathetic they are. Congratulations Nexxus, you win the FAIL OF THE DAY for December 8th.

The original post: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6578/furnationarewhinybitche.png
Once again, ED saves the day with it's righteous accuracy. Thanks for the link!
 

Damaratus

Care to join me in my lab?
Just out of curiosity, does anybody know what part of the PayPal user agreement they violated? Same goes for FA. Why did Paypal pull FA's donations account?

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Paypal has issue with anything involving adult content. Any website that happens to host adult material and tries to use Paypal will inevitably be in danger of losing use of Paypal.

Paypal Acceptable Use Policy said:
You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:

  1. violate any law, statute, ordinance or regulation
  2. relate to sales of (a) narcotics, steroids, certain controlled substances or other products that present a risk to consumer safety, (b) drug paraphernalia, (c) items that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity, (d) items that promote hate, violence, racial intolerance, or the financial exploitation of a crime, (e) items that are considered obscene, (f) items that infringe or violate any copyright, trademark, right of publicity or privacy or any other proprietary right under the laws of any jurisdiction, (g) certain sexually oriented materials or services, or (h) ammunition, firearms, or certain firearm parts or accessories, or (i) ,certain weapons or knives regulated under applicable law.


It doesn't even have to be websites as some artists have also lost their accounts or been fined because the transaction involved something adult.
 
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Blue2k

Insert Text Here
We did this? o.o ...we must be big meanies to do something like this to FN...how dare we...poor FN never saw it coming T_T

I mean really...let's just whine and bitch about it when FN was doing something illegal...how dare we take their illegal transactions away from them..
 
Wow, in less than half an hour my screenshot made it to ED. That's why I was careful to anonymize it before posting it!

Looks like the Furnation mods have posted "proof" now too...and it's just more baseless claims. "Someone told me they were FA staff and you should believe me because I said so!"
 

VitaiSlade

~TGWBT~
Wow, in less than half an hour my screenshot made it to ED. That's why I was careful to anonymize it before posting it!

Looks like the Furnation mods have posted "proof" now too...and it's just more baseless claims. "Someone told me they were FA staff and you should believe me because I said so!"

I saw your link in this topic and used it. I hope you don't mind. :p
 

xcliber

HUGS DAMNIT! U no u want 2!
With paypal. You're not supposed to use your paypal account for adult things like porn. If you're found out to be doing this. Then your account gets locked and you get banned immeditaly.

So is that what ours was closed for too? Doesn't make much sense considering we weren't forcing people to pay money for the porn. I can understand FN going down because they relied on those funds to keep the site up, but FA's donation button was for just that, "Donations".

ninja'd:
OIC
 
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