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Something We All Can Do To Help Prevent The Next Big Downtime

DarrylWolf

Banned
Banned
I still have a bunch of notes from people from when I started in 2009. I will make it a New Year's Resolution to get rid of excess data. Let's start out clean in 2014!
 

kontonakuma

Member
I personally clean all of my notifs out asap. I hate having them stare me down. I know some of my friends keep messages for the sole purpose of just going back to look at them. I think that reasoning is really silly when we have a favorites system, and you can just bookmark them on your browser. Same goes for journals.

I typically clean out my messages as soon as I look at them too, opening anything in particular I want to look at in a new tab for when I have the time to get to it.
 

Duraji

"That Android Guy"
This is actually a pretty great idea! I know that my partner Libra-11 never removes his submissions, so I'm gonna kick him a few times until he agrees to do so. X3
 

seaweed

... is not a piece of flotsam
I personally clean all of my notifs out asap. I hate having them stare me down. I know some of my friends keep messages for the sole purpose of just going back to look at them. I think that reasoning is really silly when we have a favorites system, and you can just bookmark them on your browser. Same goes for journals.




Agreed. I keep friends submissions sometimes for a few days just to look at them when I log onto FA, since I loge right into my favorites page, but I nuke the journals immediately and only keep comments that are relevant to something I am doing until it is no longer relevant, only a few days usually, so I rarely have more than half a dozen messages/submissions saved at any one time.
It would drive me NUTS to a constantly have a big backlog.
 

Dreaming

Member
I guess this is a bad time to admit that I only recently cleared out 12,000 notifications...

Why doesn't the site just delete old notifications automatically? It seems like a pretty basic feature.
That's no fun if you've got the memory of a dying goldfish and forget to even check for important notes :c
 

Catilda Lily

May all your bacon burn.
I keep my stuff cleaned out, I keep 5 journals all the time, they are the same ones that I want to keep. I would hate it if these got automatically deleted.
 

GamerFox

Active Member
So it was the notifications table that caused the choking... Well, it's a good thing pruning's been established now. Shame it had to follow an outage.
 
This is for IF FA ever comes back up. Another update of "in the next 24 hours." Joy, the third promise that it'll be up in the next day. Time to wait for it to take another week for this site to work at all. I'm sorry, but at this point this entire thing seems like a huge, poorly run joke. This is absolutely ridiculous. A hundred bucks some other mysterious excuse pops up and they can't get that up in time, either.
 

teil

Member
I can't express how relieved I am to finally read something that shows progress. Even if it says it's going to be even longer for the site to come back. I'm glad to see that they're doing SOMETHING to avoid this happening again.

But yes. Time to clean out our sh- ssssstuff. ;D
 
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Chazykins

Guest
I really don't get the new update. Maybe they just need more memory space? Then again I don't know, they are pulling more false hope out there. "In the next 24 hours we will tell you YET another lie on when the site will be reopened." loool
 

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
net-cat said:
2. To reduce the size of the absolutely huge notification tables, we will be pruning notifications for submissions and journals older than 90 days.
It's about damn time to implement a policy like that. I am curious as to a few things, though, like how much space in the current notifications tables is over the 90-day mark?

I imagine that users not deleting their notifications isn't the only reason the table is so big -- sure it's the most obvious reason, but notifications sent to lurking/inactive accounts are possibly another reason (because if they don't log in, how are they going to dismiss any notifications?).
 

kontonakuma

Member
I really don't get the new update. Maybe they just need more memory space? Then again I don't know, they are pulling more false hope out there. "In the next 24 hours we will tell you YET another lie on when the site will be reopened." loool

At least they told us what was going on and what the plan is. They can take longer than 24 hours at this point for all I care, as long as there's updates letting us know.
 

kevincorgi

New Member
I'm laughing at the fact that it took SIX DAYS to arrive at this point. Good thing this is not a serious website.
 

Jashwa

Member
Meh, PSN went down for a MONTH for Sony and everything turned out fine in the end.
 

Catilda Lily

May all your bacon burn.
Maybe put them in your browser's bookmarks. They're giving us a grace period.
Because booking marking something that gets deleted works. Also no double posting please.
 

seaweed

... is not a piece of flotsam
Maybe put them in your browser's bookmarks. They're giving us a grace period.



They aren't giving us any information on how long this "grace period" is. I understand that they are busy trying to get the site up, but if they suddenly say "Oh, grace period is up, all your s**t is gone!" a week or two (or even three) after it comes up (which could be another week or two or three the way it is going) I can see a WHOLE LOT of VERY pissed people.

The lack of communication so far doesn't make me optimistic that we will get a lot of information about this "grace period".

But we shall see I suppose.
 

Duraji

"That Android Guy"
Meh, PSN went down for a MONTH for Sony and everything turned out fine in the end.

Sony also gave us lots of free stuff. Where's my commemorative "OH NOES FA LULZ" tee shirt? I expect it in the mail by tomorrow. >:C

But seriously, I'm very happy with this update, and it makes a lot of sense. I just wish Yak would have had the foresight to fix the problem before it overloaded on us, but at least it's not quite so serious as I was worried over. And, yes, people need to actually clean out their notifications, and I fully support an auto-delete for anything after 90 days.
 

Kesteh

Twenty
I had a feeling that notifications were once again a scapegoat.

But seriously though. I cannot for the life of me understand why people keep all notifications, even ones that are "removed".
I've seen some streamers have over 10k. I cringe. WHY? You don't read them! "I'm going to later..." Bullshit they're still there from five streams ago when we saw them last time!
Hit the god damn nuke button.

Meh, PSN went down for a MONTH for Sony and everything turned out fine in the end.
That was a security vulnerability and they made damn sure they closed it. This is different. This is inefficient and poor software issue.
Irony of the situation: Sony was warned like FA was prior to certain security hole exploits... and neither listened to the warnings.
 

seaweed

... is not a piece of flotsam
No, you click on the message and bookmark that page, then delete the message.



If you bookmark a page and then delete the message on the page, it won't still be there.. now if you save the page as an .html file, then that would work.
 
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