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The Banning is Arbitrary and Random and this is why

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Schayfer

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I think this is a very simple thing. I'll qualify this as saying, I can understand the cub art ban, and I can't say I'll be that sad to see the pictures gone. The Sonic thing is kind of silly to me, but FA has to do what's best for them. They are a privately run website and they do not have to worry about your "rights", feelings, wants or hopes. They can take them into account, but what really matters is doing what they have to do to keep going for the site to keep running.

If you don't like the bans and restrictions. That's fine. You are entitled to think that. You can voice concern, and hopefully in a respectful and constructive manner, but in the end you have to understand that the decision is not yours. If you do not agree, then move to a different site. As with any business, if you do not like the product you move on to one that fits you better. But to continuously complain, bitch, and moan about it really isn't going to solve anything.

If there are truly so many of you, then it may hurt FA that all of you leave, but chances are there are not and both parties will move on.

That's my two cents.
 

Smelge

Hey, Assbutt
I think this is a very simple thing. I'll qualify this as saying, I can understand the cub art ban, and I can't say I'll be that sad to see the pictures gone. The Sonic thing is kind of silly to me, but FA has to do what's best for them. They are a privately run website and they do not have to worry about your "rights", feelings, wants or hopes. They can take them into account, but what really matters is doing what they have to do to keep going for the site to keep running.

If you don't like the bans and restrictions. That's fine. You are entitled to think that. You can voice concern, and hopefully in a respectful and constructive manner, but in the end you have to understand that the decision is not yours. If you do not agree, then move to a different site. As with any business, if you do not like the product you move on to one that fits you better. But to continuously complain, bitch, and moan about it really isn't going to solve anything.

If there are truly so many of you, then it may hurt FA that all of you leave, but chances are there are not and both parties will move on.

That's my two cents.

There are not so many of them. Every time cub porn has come up on the forum in the past, there's been more people calling to get rid of it than standing up for it. All this is, is an empty threat to hit FA where it hurts, claiming that vast swathes of it's users will leave, and all the donors will stop donating because they all love cub porn. It's all a really shitty attempt at blackmail.

And thank you for actually posting something constructive. Usually people join to scream ill-informed crap. Thank you for actually having an opinion that is informed and not completely hysterically retarded.
 

salmy

Loner Cheetah not wolf! :P
Oy, I really dunno why people will only see what they wanna see. oh! Actually that's my point about what AP could consider cub porn, but okay, responding:

Says common fucking sense. They cited ToS breaches relating to cub porn as the reason for shutting down FA's AP account. That is it. All you are doing, is trying to justify reasons why the offending material should be kept. You are being incredibly fucking selfish by going on about how FA should ignore the thing that has caused most payment providers to turn them down. Why yes, let's make a stand right here. Let's cancel the cub porn ban, and then enjoy FA running out of funds in a few months, because fuck every other user who doesn't like cub porn.

My good sir, I'm trying to leave my own tastes and likings off this thread. I didn't come here to say 'cub porn is cool!' or 'I love it!' so I'd like people to stop saying the opposite. This is not my point here. What I basically want to know is the truth behind all of this, OR finally make sense in my little brain.

That said, FA runs on donations and ads. Each ad is $20 and there are 12-20 donators per month. Do you honestly think it's so hard to ask all of those people to please change the way they give their money to FA?

Alertpay is releasing the funds. 3 months from account termination. If you're going to make wild accusations and self-righteous claims, back your shit up with actual evidence, instead of ignoring what has been stated many times.

I had never seen that statement, Smelge. Why are you so angry towards me? This is not anything personal, you know. Why don't you stop attacking me? I just want to have things clear and I'm not /claiming/ anything, just throwing out theories, plausible explanations to what's going on.

So AP is going to release the funds in 3 months? Yes or yes? With ban or without ban? Or after the ban and after they review the site? Could you please quote where you saw what you're stating?

If it looks like a child getting reamed, it's going to be considered child porn. Deal with it.

That's my point, really! xD If something even remotely ressembles a child in their wyes, they're going to consider it child porn.

Here, why don't you go and rent yourself some webspace, get yourself a payment provider, and have your very own cub porn site. See how long that lasts before your ISP or provider shuts you down, and your payment processor tells you to get fucked.

Because, my sir, I actually already own an ISP :3 But this is not the point! I didn't start this thread because I wanted /another/ debate cub ban yes/no, just to clarify the reasons behind it cuz... I don't buy them!

Of course, could this whole pointless and arbitrary thread of yours have something to do with the fact that every single one of your submissions is now not allowed on the site?

You really don't want anybody to focus on my OP, but on the fact that I'm an evil pedo just for liking a kind of art. Okay, I see that, but if you see my gallery I only removed part of it (10%?), and there was nothing anybody here could consider cub porn, but I removed it anyway because my fursona is 16, and thus, minor, and thus, against the rules, and I like to follow the rules wherever I go (or leave). I could have easily said that Salmy is 18 and there would have been no problem, but know what? I'm not ashamed of this. I'm not doing anything illegal here (Spain) or even in USA. But if it's the site's rules, of course I'll pull it off!
 

Browder

Wishes He could Fly
FAF is not a country. Trying to hold it to any 'moral' standard is inappropriate regardless of what you believe. This is a legal and monetary thing. En of story. Feel lucky that the service providers seem to like its user base.
 

Xenke

Member
That's my point, really! xD If something even remotely ressembles a child in their wyes, they're going to consider it child porn.

Oh my fucking god, you actually understand this.

Now just realize that this is the only sane way to moderate the site and you'll be on your way to realizing how things work.
 

9_6

Member
...if you didn't draw porn of children...

Would someone kindly inform this brat that this shit is against the TOS and enforce it already?
I don't ever want to hear the words "child" in combination with "porn" in connection to this subject again.
Just do a freaking word search for "pedophilia" & co and roflstomp all posts containing it.
It is that. fucking. simple. and there would be so much less threadcrapping.

Christ.
 

salmy

Loner Cheetah not wolf! :P
Go back to drawing your child porn. You're much better at that then figuring out how this site works.

STOP saying it's child porn because it's not. Cub is not child. Law says so. If you think otherwise, you're being unrespectful and offensive to me and many others and you shouldn't be allowed to speak in a free forum if all what you're going to do is to insult people that don't think like you.

And if you only cared about who you're insulting, you'd know that I can't draw to save my life. I only like art, fav it, sometimes commission it, sometime get gifts.

I'm just tired of seeing how mods here will just people freely insult and bash others without any kind of warning and much less a comsequence.
 

Xenke

Member
Would someone kindly inform this brat that this shit is against the TOS and enforce it already?
I don't ever want to hear the words "child" in combination with "porn" in connection to this subject again.
Just do a freaking word search for "pedophilia" & co and roflstomp all posts containing it.
It is that. fucking. simple. and there would be so much less threadcrapping.

Christ.

Hello again 9_6.

I'm just alluding to the fact that he draws fuzzy furry children in sexual situations.
 
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