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Teal

Squirrel
I really want to get a Pokemon with the right nature. If you breed and breed and then finally get the Moody nature, you can basically win by making your Pokemon a defensive powerhouse the longer he stays in the battle. A Moody Skarmory would be unbeatable.
Moody is an ability that only a few pokemon can have. It's not a nature.

Other great moves include multiple Sleep-using Pokemon to anesthetize the opponent's team, leaving them completely worthless.
Insomnia, vital spirit, shed skin, worry seed....

Another great way to maximize linked battle victories is the battle-extending Sand Attack, Minimize, Double Team, all of which cause your opponent to waste turns trying to hit you.
Just switch out pokemon? Or maybe have one with the contrary ability.

Lastly, there are items and abilities that improve your Pokemon's accuracy. Combine with Sheer Cold, Horn Drill, Fissure, or Guillotine and you'll have a very easy victory, indeed.
Sturdy ability. :I
 

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
ELITE FOUR GET!

Lv.60 (mega) Lucario - packing Aura Sphere, Poison Jab, Shadow Claw, and because I'm going to need a dragonslayer, let's have some Dragon Pulse, too.
Lv. 61 Volt Absorb Lanturn - packing Thunderbolt, Surf, Ice Beam, Aqua Ring and Leftovers. Best HP on the team. Slowest team member by far, but a tank for anything that's not Grass or Ground.
Lv.60 Super Luck Absol - Packs Night Slash, Shadow Claw, Psycho Cut, and a wildcard in Me First. Best Attack score on the team by far.
Lv.65 Linoone - Okay so maybe I didn't have to pack the HM slave but he at least has Strength and Rock Smash and Surf, and only one elemental weakness (with a Chople Berry for that).
Lv.63 Talonflame - one of my two staples, this bird packs some serious heat with Fly, Flamethrower, Steel Wing (for fairies) and Roost. Fastest Speed on the team. Equipped with Flame Body and Rocky Helmet, you so much as touch this bird and you go DOWN.
Lv.65 Delphox - The team starter, with Will-O-Wisp, Psyshock/Psychic and Flamethrower.

ROUND 1 FIGHT!
Between Aura Sphere and Shadow Claw, Mega Lucario takes out the keyring with no damage, just a little Torment.

Aura Sphere can OHKO Probopass (save for Sturdy), Wikstrom uses a Full Restore - big mistake because while Shadow Claw didn't KO you it at least negates Sturdy, and Probopass subseqently goes down just the same.

Aegislash! I can Shadow Claw you -- okay, except for that King's Shield bit. Right; let's swap in Talonflame. Yes, that sword hits fairly hard but Flame Body PLUS Rocky Helmet costs you your attack power AND 25% HP. One Flamethrower later, you're down.

Last up is SCIZOR! Can you say "no contest"? Oh yes you can!
Okay, that wasn't so bad....

ROUND 2 BEGIN!
Lanturn has two words for you, Malva: SURF. EVERYTHING. I know Lucario doesn't stand a chance, but Absol, Talonflame and Delphox can mop up if they need to. But will they...?

First up is a female Pyroar! I'm not worried about Noble Roar yet, but I wasn't prepared for a crit from Echoed Voice (now I wish I had kept Ion Deluge instead of dropping it for Ice Beam, I could've Volt Absorbed it for free HP). Lanturn eventually bites it but he did make you use up two Full Restores in the process. And, if I'm correct your lion has Rivalry instead of Unnerve, so maybe Lucario does stand a chance WHOA yes, that Flamethrower hurts but Mega Lucario survives it by about 10% and downs you with an Aura Sphere.

Next, a Talonflame? Okay, so let's pit your bird versus mine! Sure, you're two levels higher (and apparently faster) but you REALLY shouldn't be going all Flare Blitz and Brave Bird on my Rocky Helmet. My bird survives it with ONE HP (and possibly NOT by affection, either) and I Fly you for the KO. Talonflame levels up, too! (Sorry, girl, no Brave Bird for you, you need to keep Steel Wing and Roost.)

Third comes a Torkoal. Okay, let's try Roosting -- nope, no salvation against Stone Edge. Wow. Okay, Mega Lucario, let's see you dent this thing before you get melted. 80% damage! Not a KO, but it's close enough that Absol can easily mop up.

Last is a Chandelure! I don't know how you survived that Night Slash but, damn, your Flamethrower hit hard AND burned me. Absol's barely standing now. He somehow toughs out ANOTHER Flamethrower, turns it around for a win.
Okay, wow, that was a workout....

ROUND 3 JUST GO FOR IT!
First up is Lanturn vs. Clawitzer! How the heck is my Lanturn faster, anyway? Well, if Dragon Pulse is all you got then I'm setting up Aqua Ring while you Full Restore that Thunderbolt. You should've brought a bigger fish...

...like Gyarados! No doubt packing an Earthquake, but all I can do is WAIT DRAGON DANCE? You are SO not surviving my Thunderbolt! And did I mention that by now, Lanturn's regained about 50% of her HP?

She'll definitely need it . . . against that Barbaracle! Thunderbolt can't quite finish it off and Lanturn can't take two Stone Edges. But Lucario can take this Captain Barnacle -- and boy DOES he.

Last is a ... Starmie? What, no Water+Ground types this Gen? Well, good thing my Lucario's packing his Shadow Claws! Mega Lucario can survive a Surf or two, and he doesn't even need that much to secure the win.
Only one left and I know what type they are ... too bad Lanturn's the only one who can learn Dazzling Gleam (Sylveon is on my B-team), but Dragons are typically more vulnerable to Ice, so here I go....

ROUND FOUR FIGHT!
Dragalge? And my Lanturn is STILL faster? Well, it's an HP tank vs. a Special tank, let's soften you up with some ICE BEAM. Three of those and you're down; Sludge Bomb just wasn't good enough to dent my fish.

Altaria? Yes I know you're faster, but you're also defensive, and can you even survive ONE Ice Beam? *zap* Okay, yes you can. But I do more than enough to make Drasna use up her Full Restores while Lanturn's HP recharges. AND I JUST FROZE YOU!? You are not thawing out.

Third is a Noivern! The fast and special one, but still has a 4x vulnerability to Ice and Lanturn's almost back to full HP by now. And Lanturn can easily survive enough Dragon Pulses to down you.

Last is a Druddigon! Okay, these guys gave me a lot of trouble while training on Victory Road but WHAT LANTURN IS STILL FASTER? Oh. Nope, that was just Dragon Tail and now it's Delphox's turn. Hmm, Psychic or Will-O-Wisp? Will-O-Wisp has inexplicably failed me in a lot of important battles, so let's do Psychic. Nice of you to counter with Revenge but you REALLY should be packing something like Shadow Claw. Psyshock criticals (not that it needs to) and I win.

WHEW. I beat the Elite Four on the first try? That's never happened before! Sure, I've beaten one Champ on the first try (Juan in Emerald) but never the E4.

Time for a breather . . .
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AND THE CHAMPION TITLE MATCH!

I don't know what to expect, but if the Champ has Fairies I've got Steel Wing and Poison Jab (plus two Fire types) on my side. Lanturn, you take the lead!

And ROCKIN' BATTLE MUSIC YO.

Her first is a Hawlucha? I don't know what it's capable of, but Champ you really should know that Flying Press is PART FLYING and will never dent an Electric. Lanturn, fry this bird! *critical OHKO*

Second is TYRANTRUM and Lanturn outspeeds it with Ice Beam. WHOA Head Smash really hurt but it was worth it, the T-Rex faints from recoil.

Third is Gourgeist? No time for an Aqua Ring here, and Lanturn goes down. Okay, Flammie (my bird has been named Flammie since it was a Fletchinder), let's cook this pumpkin! One Flamethrower and we have some nice hot pie.

Aurorus? 4X VULNERABLE TO STEEL WING and Steel Wing buffs my Defense. Reflect won't save you now, but Steel Wing missed and Flammie gets paralyzed by Thunder now. Okay, Champ, you used one Full Restore so I can too, and you should know better than to try Blizzarding my firebird (besides, you missed).

Goodra? Well, Flamethrower doesn't dent it but maybe Fly will. I hate Muddy Water with a passion, but that's the price for being a Fire type without Sunny Day....

Delphox, take 'er out! I know you'll have to endure that Muddy Watter (should've packed a Passho berry instead of Charti) but Psychic hits hard enough (and the Champ still has a Full Restore left?), plus it weakened your Sp.Def and you go down. What does the fox say to that? Level up, that's what!

Last is . . . a Trace Gardevoir -- no, a MEGA GARDEVOIR. Will-O-Wisp! (Not like either of us use physical attacks but I could really use the damage-over-time) Yes, Absol, I know Gardevoir's a Fairy but OOPS SHE IS FASTER TOO. Okay, Mega Lucario, let's do this!

MEGA VERSUS MEGA FINALE!

Her Moonblast still hits me for 75% damage (no wonder Absol never stood a chance), but Lucario's Shadow Claw hits just as hard. AND FOR THE WIN!

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...!!!
That victory was AWESOME! Roll the credits!

...wait WHAT IT'S NOT OVER YET?

Lanturn vs. Torkoal! Surf's up, yo! Or should that be OHKO?

Sigilyph? Aqua Ring, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam!

GOLURK? Surf can't OHKO you and you have Phantom Force? Okay, I KNEW I kept Linoone on the team for something! And he knows Surf, too!

Finally . . . it's over. I can officially give my team a rest.
 
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Teal

Squirrel
So has anyone heard any thing new in regards to the mysteryzone/bad eggs?
I want to use wonder trade again but am a bit afraid to.
 

SirRob

Well-Known Member
Ugh. The one turn I didn't use protect, and the opponent gets a critical. Then the next turn it goes through paralysis and hits with a focus blast. Murphy was a smart guy.
 

DarrylWolf

Banned
Banned
Moody is an ability that only a few pokemon can have. It's not a nature.


Insomnia, vital spirit, shed skin, worry seed....

Just switch out pokemon? Or maybe have one with the contrary ability.

Sturdy ability. :I

Of course, all these moves are so super-effective that Nintendo effectively banned some of them in tournaments. Which makes me wonder how and why Nintendo would just let their battle system have such gamebreaking moves that they have to be banned. If hypnotizing multiple Pokemon (sleep-trapping) is so effective, than there have to be ways to counteract that. If using Swift Swim with Drizzle is effective, then you need counter-measures not banning.
 

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
So has anyone heard any thing new in regards to the mysteryzone/bad eggs?
I want to use wonder trade again but am a bit afraid to.
The one confirmable (video) report we have, the guy thinks it's a problem with his 3DS and not the game, and definitely NOT from trading either. The Bad Egg always shows up in the same location in the same box, and apparently doesn't spread as long as you just leave it be (moving it around causes another Bad Egg to show up in the original spot after reloading the save).

Now . . . about that Rival battle...
I'm taking my A-team in, almost same team that beat the Champ (substituting Hawlucha for Lucario).

Absol downs her Meowstick easy despite its Disarming Voice.

Clefable's next? Where'd you get that? So I swap to Talonflame. One Roost and a few Steel Wings, the fairy is down.

Now for Greninja! WHAT Greninja is faster than Talonflame? Damn. Should've swapped my falcon out ... okay, Lanturn, you're up! Sure, Dark Pulse hurts, but Thunderbolt takes him down all the same.

Altaria? You'd better be stronger than Drasna's! Okay, Confide is new, you've dropped my Sp.Atk by half, but your Dragon Pulse still can't overcome the Leftovers+Aqua Ring combo.

Good to see Flareon again! But I doubt he can take a Surfing. Sure, Fire Blast leaves a dent but I still outlast you.

Last is the Absol -- no, Mega Absol! Well, there goes Lanturn. And my own Absol. AND Linoone (who at least lived long enough to get off a shot; and it was a good one). Wow, he outspeeds everything (except possibly Talonflame, but she's down), I SERIOUSLY doubt Delphox can take a Night Slashing, and I'm not sure if my slightly-below-Lv.60 Hawlucha is up to the challenge either. But there's only one way to be sure -- FLYING PRESS!

*victory*

What's this, you had two Absolite? Awesome, neat to learn you're not sacrificing yours to give me one.

Hey, that was fun, let's do it again!
Now I'm bringing my BONAFIDE A-game, same exact team that survived the E4 and Champ. Absol downs Meowstick but loses to Clefable (but not in one shot, he's faster and toughed out a Moonblast <3 ), and Talonflame mops up the fairy.

No mistakes this time, swapping out the bird for Lanturn right away. And Thunderbolt Paralyzes Greninja! Yes -- Lanturn NEEDS that extra turn!

I see Altaria is going for Dragon Pulse right away this time. Okay, it just means my Lanturn gets to KO you faster, though I'm not sure he'll survive Flareon now. OUCH, just barely, with 2 HP. At least Surf nailed your Flareon pretty good before his lights went out. Delphox, avenge her!

Now for that Mega Absol ... oh, right, you can't Will-O-Wisp a Mega Absol (but at least Delphox is immune to Burns). And Delphox DEFINITELY can't take a Night Slashing (but at least got to act first). Talonflame, hang in there! Delphox was faster already, so Mega Absol's not THAT fast, but DAMN that Night Slash crit and left you with only 2 HP, to be finished off by a Quick Attack no less. BUT not without triggering Flame Body (I love that ability!) and Absol already lost 25% to the Rocky Helmet.

Mega Lucario versus Mega Absol FIGHT! Boom, Night Slash barely dents me, though my Shadow Claw obviously doesn't dent you either (I don't want to end this moment too quickly, let me save a snapshot). And you outspeed me? Okay, well, Aura Sphere would probably be a OHKO anyway, but you're almost down from burns, let's finish this. Poison Jab!

Oh, and I HATE seeing Serena look so sad after a battle.
 
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Teal

Squirrel
The one confirmable (video) report we have, the guy thinks it's a problem with his 3DS and not the game, and definitely NOT from trading either. The Bad Egg always shows up in the same location in the same box, and apparently doesn't spread as long as you just leave it be (moving it around causes another Bad Egg to show up in the original spot after reloading the save).
I'm gonna start using wonder trade again then.
But I will confine it to one box just incase freaky shit starts happening.
 

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
Also, Zygarde's battle music is awesome.
I think it's actually the same music as for Xerneas/Yveltal, but yes, the Ominous Pipe Organ background and electric guitar foreground is awesome.

I want to see you do that with Zygarde :p
ALMOST happened!
+ Capture Power Lv.1
+ Thunder Wave on turn 1
+ Noivern softened him up with three Super Fangs (I love this move for catching wild Pokemon)
+ Started chucking balls only five turns in!

The FIRST ball I threw was a Luxury Ball, and it almost captured him (three shakes). After using up all 10 Luxury Balls, I started throwing Premiere Balls, and caught him in three.

PS: Hey, what's this about the Mega Ring only locates Mega Stones between 8 and 9 PM? I think I need to tweak my DS clock by 12 hours.
 
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Misomie

Lazy Artist
I just realized how Jolteon can't learn Electro Ball but some super slow electric mons can. What the heck?! That move is practically made for Jolteon. D:<
 
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CaptainCool

Lady of the lake
I just realized how Jolteon can't learn Electro Ball but some super slow electric mons can. What the heck?! That move is practically made for Jolteon. D:<

But Electro Ball sucks :c
Sure, since Jolteon is really freaking fast it would probably do quite a lot of damage overall but it's just not reliable.
If the target's speed is only 33% - 25% of Jolteon's speed it has a power of 120. From 50% - 34% it has a power of 80. I'm not even gonna touch the 150 below 25% it's speed...
33% to 25% of it's speed is VERY slow. With Jolteon's 130 base speed stat the enemy would need to have a base speed stat of 32.5 to 42.9 to deal 120 damage. But in Jolteon's tier you probably won't run into many Mons that are this slow! So you are pretty much stuck with either 60 or 80 damage. And there are much better options that deal more than that. Like Thunderbolt with 100% accuracy and a power of 95 (it even has more PP). Or even Thunder with it's 70% accuracy / 100% accuracy in the rain and a power of 110.

Thunder, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch and Hidden Power, that's how I run my own Jolteon.
 

Misomie

Lazy Artist
But if you have it choiced...

Or run it with Sticky Web in play or paralysis... Heck, even setting up tail-wind... You can set Jolteon up to do some massive damage. >:D

Think of all the bloodshed. >:D

Then again Electrode can be used in the same way but Jolteon's stronger~
 

CaptainCool

Lady of the lake
But if you have it choiced...

Or run it with Sticky Web in play or paralysis... Heck, even setting up tail-wind... You can set Jolteon up to do some massive damage. >:D

Think of all the bloodshed. >:D

It takes too much prep work to be that effective.
Choiced Thunderbolt is still more powerful and the other things need Jolteon to be switched back in, and since Jolteon can't exactly take much abuse you risk having it faint before you can even use Electro Ball.

Naa, I'd still just either reliably wreck everything with Thunder or Thunderbolt or switch it out with Volt Switch while still doing some damage^^
 

Misomie

Lazy Artist
I meant scarfed. I'm new to these items. XD

I just personally like Electro Ball. It's super cool~
 

BRN

WTB Forum Mod Powers
Some of the new move animations are just great. Seismic Toss, though I've seen it just once, made me splutter forever. :3

Aura Sphere, Electro Ball, Brave Bird are practically turnons.
 

CaptainCool

Lady of the lake
Some of the new move animations are just great. Seismic Toss, though I've seen it just once, made me splutter forever. :3

Aura Sphere, Electro Ball, Brave Bird are practically turnons.

Someone I was fighting online knocked out my Garchomp with Fissure... It looked REALLY cool, I was just too pissed off to like it XD
 

Misomie

Lazy Artist
I want to see Sheer Cold. I bet it's beautiful~

Edit: It is! :'D
 
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BRN

WTB Forum Mod Powers
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Anyone remember this?

The music gradually getting more and more dramatic as the snowstorm becomes more intense, whiting out your screen as you continually get lost over and over on Mt Coronet, in a race against time to find the Spear Pillar-

Ohbby.

And then you do.

And suddenly.

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SirRob

Well-Known Member
Calm Mind's animation was unexpected. Before it was just like, circles, and now it gets its own mini cutscene.

So I'm planning my dark team... obviously the biggest threats will be Mega Blaziken and Mega friggin' Mawile. I think I should revolve my team around destroying them.
 
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Digitalpotato

Rants like a Gryphon
The animation of Thunder:

YOU HAVE PISSED OFF ZEUS
 

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
I figured out Mawile can't use Sucker Punch at all if my priority move is faster.
If Sucker Punch is the only priority move Mawile has, there's one obvious counter to that: Burn, baby, BURN. Not sure how well it'd work in practice but a Will-O-Wisp would cut that Attack power down to size (and no Rawst berries for Megas).
 

SirRob

Well-Known Member
If Sucker Punch is the only priority move Mawile has, there's one obvious counter to that: Burn, baby, BURN. Not sure how well it'd work in practice but a Will-O-Wisp would cut that Attack power down to size (and no Rawst berries for Megas).
Relying on something that only works 80% of the time isn't something I like doing.
 

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
Anyone remember this?
Platinum. I didn't get lost in Mt. Coronet, but rather the creepy (and totally random-encounter-less) Distortion World.

Relying on something that only works 80% of the time isn't something I like doing.
Inorite? Sure it's rated at 85% but I could swear that it always failed me in important battles (save for the Champ). In fact, I've seen more than one occasion where it failed THREE TIMES IN A ROW. You'd think everybody had Miracle Skin or something....

At least there's also Hone Claws. Sometimes I pack it JUST for the accuracy boost (Focus Blast, I'm looking at you). And you do NOT want to deal with an accuracy-boosted Hypnosis.
 
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Distorted

Active Member
Honestly, I think of rolling with an Absol so I can dodge those predictable sleep gags. Mega evolve and magic bounce that mess back at them.
 

SirRob

Well-Known Member
Yeah you'd like me to use Absol, wouldn't you! >:C Perfect fodder for your Mawile!

The problem is that Absol actually needs to Mega Evolve before it can make use of Magic Bounce. And then, your opponent would expect it and take advantage of its crap defenses.
 
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