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The Pokemon Thread

Toshabi

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Observations about the Pokemon GL:

You better be serious about living, eating, and breathing Pokemon because your opponents are invariably Japanese trainers who have played over 100 hours, bred the perfect team, and have a language barrier on their side. You will be overmatched by these trainers from the Land of the Rising Sun.

I'm 0-8 as a result- going winless is to be expected for an American "I only want to see the end credits" trainer against a bunch of Japanese Poke-addicts so I guess I'll stick to playing other casual gamer Passersby to save what's left of my fragile self-esteem.

Sometimes, I wish Ninty would re-release Pokemon Puzzle League (which was just 1996 SNES game Tetris Attack with a "Pokemon" veneer) so that you could play that puzzle game with others worldwide. Now, THAT is a game I could win at.

Seriously, who wouldn't want to play Poke-Tetris Attack with anyone in the world?

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DarrylWolf

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Don't mourn for me, FA Forums!

The good news is something I learned when Street Fighter was big in the late 90s, beating a few of my casual gamer friends but not the hardcore players who basically lived at arcades. You will lose as a casual gamer to people who live and breathe the game but being a video game champion does not equal anything marketable. At least we can take some comfort in knowing that these Pokemon addicts playing their games for six hours a day have to sacrifice something- like anything else that would make their real lives worthwhile- to be so good at a game, which basically is nothing more than bragging rights. You can't devote six to eight hours a day on Pokemon and expect to live a life well-balanced. I'd take a college education and a life of independence over being a mama's boy playing any video game (this applies to COD as well as Pokemon) out of a smelly basement. Still, I would like to beat some casual gamers every once in a while.
 

Teal

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The good news is something I learned when Street Fighter was big in the late 90s, beating a few of my casual gamer friends but not the hardcore players who basically lived at arcades. You will lose as a casual gamer to people who live and breathe the game but being a video game champion does not equal anything marketable. At least we can take some comfort in knowing that these Pokemon addicts playing their games for six hours a day have to sacrifice something- like anything else that would make their real lives worthwhile- to be so good at a game, which basically is nothing more than bragging rights. You can't devote six to eight hours a day on Pokemon and expect to live a life well-balanced. I'd take a college education and a life of independence over being a mama's boy playing any video game (this applies to COD as well as Pokemon) out of a smelly basement. Still, I would like to beat some casual gamers every once in a while.
Wow they have video games as a hobby, they're totally just a socially inept basement dweller. -_-
You know you're really just an asshole.


I'm not whining, it is difficult to win. I actually did pick up a victory when someone else's Internet connection went kaput so I'm not winless anymore. Winning by technicality counts so if that was on my bucket list- winning a GL battle, well I can cross it off. Hooray for Internet problems!
You didn't really win if it was an internet problem.
 

DarrylWolf

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Wow they have video games as a hobby, they're totally just a socially inept basement dweller. -_-
You know you're really just an asshole.


You didn't really win if it was an internet problem.

It goes beyond just "having video games as a hobby", it's having video games as a religion! Well, it's obvious that there are people who are just hobbyists, like me, for whom victory would be a pleasant surprise and then there are people who play it for hours on end, for whom failure in a battle to a hobbyist might cause them to have some sort of existential crisis. If I really wanted to play as well as they did and win tournament matches, I could waste hours of time I can't afford to and become as strong as they are, at the cost of graduate school and the professional career that comes with it. You really can't expect to beat anyone who's thoroughly addicted to the games when you're not an addict but I have a life outside of Pokemon, you know. Since you don't have the time to be a Pokemon master and lead a life

No, the official rules say that if any Internet connection failure occurs, no matter how unlucky, there has to be a winner so I got the default victory.
 
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Teal

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It goes beyond just "having video games as a hobby", it's having video games as a religion! Well, it's obvious that there are people who are just hobbyists, like me, and then there are people who play it for hours on end, for whom failure in a battle to a hobbyist might cause them to have some sort of existential crisis. If I really wanted to play as well as they did and win tournament matches, I could waste hours of time I can't afford to and become as strong as they are, at the cost of graduate school and the professional career that comes with it. You really can't expect to beat anyone who's thoroughly addicted to the games when you're not an addict but I have a life outside of Pokemon, you know.
Sure some people take it to far (as can happen with ANYTHING) but you act like ANYONE who plays the game a lot is a loser.

No, the official rules say that if any Internet connection failure occurs, no matter how unlucky, there has to be a winner so I got the default victory.
Yes, but YOU didn't really win because of skill, you "won" because of an internet fluke or rage quitting child.
That's an amazing victory don't you think?
 

Toshabi

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I really wish mods and rules didn't exist, because this is a scenario where you just wanna tell someone "Sorry, but you're a fucking idiot" and leave the discussion at that, lest this idiotic banter from the foolish side of the discussion drag on for another 50 pages like I can already see it doing. Methinks we should pretend said offender's posts are non-existent.
 

DarrylWolf

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Sure some people take it to far (as can happen with ANYTHING) but you act like ANYONE who plays the game a lot is a loser.

Yes, but YOU didn't really win because of skill, you "won" because of an internet fluke or rage quitting child.
That's an amazing victory don't you think?

Well, people who play the game ALOT are losers. I can enjoy Star Wars as a cinematic masterpiece, and I could think of the characters as being inspiring heroes, evil villains, and the universe grand and complex. But, I would say that a man who dresses as Darth Vader, lives in his mother's basement, and competes in trivia and costume contests competitively needs to get a life. Same is true with Pokemon- convincing storyline of an alternate universe where animals serve as our entertainment, which is some sort of bloodless combat. It is fun to play competitively with other trainers- of course, by now everyone knows how devilishly effective Sleep is, how annoying Evasion is, and how one-hit kill moves are game-breaking so try to avoid them- and as the franchise has grown, the storyline and settings have gotten better. But it's still not worth getting absolutely addicted to.

You have to feel for the addicts because if they don't prove themselves in some dick-swinging contest over who has the best Pokemon, they've burnt the candle at both ends. They would have wasted all that time to be the very best and lost anyway, when they could have just played casually and lost all the same to someone else. I don't play the game a lot because I physically can't play the game all the time so whenever there is a disparity in total time logged, eggs hatched, etc. I think that guy I lost to is hmself completely lost to the game. So between term papers, exploring the city, attending speeches, conventions, and pick-up games of basketball and indoor soccer, I think yes, I have the more balanced life, just taking Pokemon as a side hobby, rather than a way of life. However good it is to be the jack of all trades, you have to live with being the master of none.

I won a battle against someone who thought two Pokemon against six was a good idea. Probably a finger slip but I'll take it.
 
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Well, people who play the game ALOT are losers.
So I guess the people who play the games a lot and make videos earning lots of fans and even money are total losers. Oh good I'll remember that.

I can enjoy Star Wars as a cinematic masterpiece, and I could think of the characters as being inspiring heroes, evil villains, and the universe grand and complex. But, I would say that a man who dresses as Darth Vader, lives in his mother's basement, and competes in trivia and costume contests competitively needs to get a life.
Because everyone who does that is a basement dweller.
Wow, let people have a life that involves something they like why don't you.

Same is true with Pokemon- convincing storyline of an alternate universe where animals serve as our entertainment, which is some sort of bloodless combat. It is fun to play competitively with other trainers and as the franchise has grown, the storyline and settings have gotten better. But it's still not worth getting absolutely addicted to.
Same is true with fucking anything.

You have to feel for the addicts because if they don't prove themselves in some dick-swinging contest over who has the best Pokemon, they've burnt the candle at both ends. They would have wasted all that time to be the very best and lost anyway, when they could have just played casually and lost all the same to someone else.
It doesn't take that much time to get good pokemon. -_-

I don't play the game a lot because I physically can't play the game all the time so whenever there is a disparity in total time logged, eggs hatched, etc. I think that guy I lost to is hmself completely lost to the game.
You keep telling yourself that.

So between term papers, exploring the city, attending speeches, conventions, and pick-up games of basketball and indoor soccer, I think yes, I have the more balanced life, just taking Pokemon as a side hobby, rather than a way of life. However good it is to be the jack of all trades, you have to live with being the master of none.
What's the "I'm better than you" attitude? What's it matter to YOU if a few people decide pokemon/star wars/whatever is their life?
How's it affect you?
Oh wait I forgot, it's a problem because they keep beating you at a video game.
What are you, 9?
 

DarrylWolf

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So I guess the people who play the games a lot and make videos earning lots of fans and even money are total losers. Oh good I'll remember that.

Because everyone who does that is a basement dweller.
Wow, let people have a life that involves something they like why don't you.

Same is true with fucking anything.

It doesn't take that much time to get good pokemon. -_-

You keep telling yourself that.

What's the "I'm better than you" attitude? What's it matter to YOU if a few people decide pokemon/star wars/whatever is their life?
How's it affect you?
Oh wait I forgot, it's a problem because they keep beating you at a video game.
What are you, 9?

I'm not complaining about the fact that disparities in time spent on a field of study will make you better at it. That's obvious to all of us. If I wanted to win, I'd spend more time on it but I can't really afford to do it, because I HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF POKEMON to live. If some people find this fun, good for them and they would win against me (and other hobbyists) because they spend a great deal more time on it. Now, there are ways to even things out- I have found that Sleep-inducers effectively "knock out" Pokemon so if I could find that TM that puts Pokemon to sleep, I could win many more games by rendering opponents' Pokemon useless. I found it pretty sneaky and underhanded but as Jesse said in Pokemon season One "All is fair in love, war, and Pokemon battles". But I've got other things to do- you guys fight it out amongst yourselves for best Pokemon trainer on FA Forums.

I will say this much- if the in-game Champion of the regions did not hold back and instead fought like an actual human, beating Pokemon would not be an eventuality for all trainers. It would be like beating Mike Tyson in Punch-Out or beating Ninja Gaiden. When I was a kid, I thought being a Champion was awesome, until I found out there were millions holding a useless title.
 
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I'm not complaining about the fact that disparities in time spent on a field of study will make you better at it. That's obvious to all of us. If I wanted to win, I'd spend more time on it but I can't really afford to do it, because I HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF POKEMON to live.
Good for you. Now quit calling them ALL basement dwellers.

If some people find this fun, good for them and they would win against me (and other hobbyists) because they spend a great deal more time on it. Now, there are ways to even things out- I have found that Sleep-inducers effectively "knock out" Pokemon so if I could find that TM that puts Pokemon to sleep, I could win many more games by rendering opponents' Pokemon useless. I found it pretty sneaky and underhanded but as Jesse said in Pokemon season One "All is fair in love, war, and Pokemon battles".
Sleep is one of the easiest to counter status effects. Good luck with that.

But I've got other things to do- you guys fight it out amongst yourselves for best Pokemon trainer on FA Forums.
There's that "better than you" attitude again. Having fun playing a game with friends is hardly a waste of time.

Also let's look at something beautiful created by people wasting time:
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DarrylWolf

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Good for you. Now quit calling them ALL basement dwellers.

Sleep is one of the easiest to counter status effects. Good luck with that.

There's that "better than you" attitude again. Having fun playing a game with friends is hardly a waste of time.

Also let's look at something beautiful created by people wasting time:
glaceon2s_by_rajewel-d6mhf07.png

mega_mawile_by_ouroporos-d6ueu7j.png

rayquaza_by_esalar-d6ukvgr.jpg

I'm not saying you can't have fun playing Pokemon- fun is why I got into Pokemon in the first place, and that's why I'm playing it for fun.

Those paintings would make a really nice centerpiece for someone with quirky tastes. I don't know what to say if I saw something like that in a frame, used as a centerpiece. I have a collection of video-game perler bead art so I can definitely like something like this.
 

Icky

is the prettiest pony~
dat mega mawile <3

I found it pretty sneaky and underhanded but as Jesse said in Pokemon season One "All is fair in love, war, and Pokemon battles".

I love how, in your argument about how anybody who puts a bit of effort into their Pokémon team is a no-life loser, you quote a 15-year-old episode from the spin-off anime of the game.
 

Stratelier

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Yes, indeed, there are lethal combinations that you can use without a Legendary. Any non-Legendary with the Scope or Mind Reader and Fissure, Guillotine, or Horn Drill, nice knowing ya because that's an automatic faint, and it will hit. Another good strategy- Hypnosis/Mean Look.
Imagine a tag-team Sheer Cold Smeargle and No Guard Machamp. If Smeargle uses Skill Swap/Role Play on Machamp, you had better be able to take that Dog Vinci out before he gets to move again. (Note that with No Guard, moves with low accuracy actually have a chance to break through Protect/Detect.)

Now if only they made the Ability Capsule give hidden abilities...

But then Hidden Abilities would lose their special-ness. This isn't Pokemon Conquest, people.

It took 28 Frogs to find one with Protean.
But was it a girl?

Instead of catching them, try confusing and using Attract on them. If both work, then the Slowpoke has regenerator.
Easier yet, bring along an Audino with Simple Beam and just shoot them -- you get to see what the ability is right before it changes. (Better yet, make it Entrainment. You don't want to see Simple Curse Slowpoke....)

(PS: Syfy's disaster movies just keep getting weirder -- what are they smoking to dig up something like "Stonado"?)
 
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Alexxx-Returns

The Sergal that Didn't Vore
^ Oh my god that Glaceon.

I absolutely LOVE realistic Pokemon. The more realistic, the better!

The only thing that pisses me off about online battling is the ass who who decides to bring Hydreigon, Salamence AND Garchomp in the same match. But it makes me feel darn good if I manage to beat teams like this with my favourite mons ^.^
 

BRN

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^ Oh my god that Glaceon.

I absolutely LOVE realistic Pokemon. The more realistic, the better!

The only thing that pisses me off about online battling is the ass who who decides to bring Hydreigon, Salamence AND Garchomp in the same match. But it makes me feel darn good if I manage to beat teams like this with my favourite mons ^.^

You can thank me later for showing you this artist.

But lawdy lawdy, those overused teams. I brought my Rock-type team to the Battle Spot to test it out, murdered a few folks, and then suddenly a Yveltal Zygarde MegaMewtwo team appeared and prevented me from walking straight for days.

It's bad enough that they drop Regigagas on you in the Battle Institute, but beating those kind of teams definitely kicks butt. Losing to them feels like a sigh.
 

DarrylWolf

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Sometimes I wonder why Nintendo stopped bringing out odd or unusual Pokemon-related games.

I think Nintendo should re-release Pokemon Puzzle League, their renamed version of Tetris Attack in a few years and put this new Puzzle League game on GL for everyone to see who the best puzzle fighters are. The ability to play a classic so insidious that your mind is even "playing" the game when you close your eyes is something we need today. It would be the perfect change of pace at a meeting of Pokemon trainers to challenge people to this game, unfortunately you would be the only one bringing a Game Boy Color. Nintendo released PPC for the GBC and PPL for the N64 in 2000, and it's only because those consoles are so outdated that no one plays them today. No ways to break the game, no banned moves, just you trying to match three colors together and clear garbage, caused by your opponent's 4-blocks and combos as you make combos of your own, Tetris Attack with a Pokemon veneer. Also, even beating Faulkner on "Intense" Mode was incredibly difficult; one of the rare examples of a Pokemon game's single-player mode being so hard that few players would have ever been able to win. PPC would be the only Pokemon battle where a Jigglypuff could beat a Gastly, and with today's hardware, the ability to play it against people around the world would be awesome. Pokemon Puzzle Challenge is the "black Mareep" of the Pokemon series, much like Puzzle Fighter is to the Street Fighter series, but you can't argue that it is a fun game. It would be refreshing to see a game where victory is not the result of hours logged or items received but it all boils down to crunching color patterns and moving as quickly as possible, though it would have more to do with puzzles than Pokemon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWkOr4q8LUI

Another game I would love to see a return of would be Pokemon Pinball, whose last game came in 2003. Yes, it's a time waster but pinball wizards could post their highest scores on Pokemon GL for anyone to see. Other things that Nintendo did away with that should be brought back- the Beauty Contests which were about impressing judges the most and winning ribbons, and the casino games, which were almost as addictive as the game itself.
 
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DarrylWolf

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Of course, there is one Pokemon-related thing that had to have been Nintendo's most embarrassing move since the Virtual Boy. Pokemon Live!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVoWD7ARe9s

When it first came out, I loved all things Pokemon and I pestered Dad to go and see it at Fair Park in Dallas. The show was terrible but I have seen much worse live musicals in my time.
 

CaptainCool

Lady of the lake
Now if only they made the Ability Capsule give hidden abilities...

I watched a video yesterday and the dude was all like "this shiny Dragonair isn't useless, just use the ability capsule to give it the hidden ability! :D" and I was all like BITCH WAT I NEED THAT THANG!!
But then I read the comments and people were calling him out for being full of shit... Much sad was had >__>
 

Teal

Squirrel
The only thing that pisses me off about online battling is the ass who who decides to bring Hydreigon, Salamence AND Garchomp in the same match. But it makes me feel darn good if I manage to beat teams like this with my favourite mons ^.^
That's why we have fairy types.

Thank you. :3

But lawdy lawdy, those overused teams. I brought my Rock-type team to the Battle Spot to test it out, murdered a few folks, and then suddenly a Yveltal Zygarde MegaMewtwo team appeared and prevented me from walking straight for days.
Winning with legendaries just isn't fun. Unless both people are using all legendary teams. >:]

It's been confirmed by Serebii that the chances of finding a shiny have been doubled.
Dances.


Sometimes I wonder why Nintendo stopped bringing out odd or unusual Pokemon-related games.
They still have plenty of weird spin offs. And I'll bet you'll be happy if they really do make that detective game with PikaBlu.
 
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