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The Pokemon Thread

DrDingo

Moved to phoenix.corvidae.org with the others
That dude outside the daycare always wears his baseball cap backwards! It's like Nintendo decided it would be funny because it'd be difficult to see if he'd turned around.
 

Harbinger

The Last of Us.
That dude outside the daycare always wears his baseball cap backwards! It's like Nintendo decided it would be funny because it'd be difficult to see if he'd turned around.

I've noticed sometimes you can catch him with an egg before he turns around, so if you think its been a while it worth checking.
Still havent got any basterd shines...
 

DarrylWolf

Banned
Banned
D: No way! They ban you from using the word 'Shazam' in Pokemon Nicknames.
.. I need to think of a new nickname.

While you can't use the names of other Pokemon when naming Pokemon, you can give them nicknames that strongly imply other types. Naming a Blastoise "Blowtorch" or a Venusaur "Sparky" or a Pikachu "Rocky" is a good strategy, because then your opponent will inevitably use the wrong type.
 

Teal

Squirrel
Does Pichu count?
Too cute.

D: No way! They ban you from using the word 'Shazam' in Pokemon Nicknames.
.. I need to think of a new nickname.
Yet I get a Pokémon named "YummyCum" through wonder trade. -_-

While you can't use the names of other Pokemon when naming Pokemon, you can give them nicknames that strongly imply other types. Naming a Blastoise "Blowtorch" or a Venusaur "Sparky" or a Pikachu "Rocky" is a good strategy, because then your opponent will inevitably use the wrong type.
If they're stupid.
 

BRN

WTB Forum Mod Powers
While you can't use the names of other Pokemon when naming Pokemon, you can give them nicknames that strongly imply other types. Naming a Blastoise "Blowtorch" or a Venusaur "Sparky" or a Pikachu "Rocky" is a good strategy, because then your opponent will inevitably use the wrong type.

In battles with other players, you don't get a forewarning of any kind. It just sends out the Pokemon, and you have to use a turn if you want to switch 'mon to counter it - after you've seen it, that is.
 

Misomie

Lazy Artist
They also don't let you name your pokemon Hashtag. Good job for you GF. :D (however, you can name your mon #YOLO Swag....)
 

Toshabi

Banned
Banned
While you can't use the names of other Pokemon when naming Pokemon, you can give them nicknames that strongly imply other types. Naming a Blastoise "Blowtorch" or a Venusaur "Sparky" or a Pikachu "Rocky" is a good strategy, because then your opponent will inevitably use the wrong type.


You've never played pokemon with an actual live person, have you?


#foreveralone
 

SirRob

Well-Known Member
I've made a lot of bad choices in my life... but the choice I regret the most is not picking the yellow bike.
 

DarrylWolf

Banned
Banned
So I recently found out about EV and IV Powers that might improve my abysmal performance at battles- that's a sight for very sore eyes. However, the bad news is I am worried about whether or not it's too late. Pokemon are set at Lvl. 50 for competitive battles so would that mean any vitamin consumption, EV Points, Super-Training regiments, Berry Juices, and IV Powers are all null and void by the fact they happened after Level 51. If I had known this, I would have kept a set of battle Pokemon who never would reach Level 51 so that their stats could get boosted as much as humanly possible and not have it invalidated by a technicality.
 

Distorted

Active Member
So I recently found out about EV and IV Powers that might improve my abysmal performance at battles- that's a sight for very sore eyes. However, the bad news is I am worried about whether or not it's too late. Pokemon are set at Lvl. 50 for competitive battles so would that mean any vitamin consumption, EV Points, Super-Training regiments, Berry Juices, and IV Powers are all null and void by the fact they happened after Level 51. If I had known this, I would have kept a set of battle Pokemon who never would reach Level 51 so that their stats could get boosted as much as humanly possible and not have it invalidated by a technicality.

Oh no no, not at all homes.

You can add EV'S even when topped at lv 100. They changed it in 5th gen. As long as you do fight the right pokemon it'll still count. If you're playing an older game (pre 5th gen) you have until lv 100 to apply your EV's. Plus there are berries and vitamins that can tweak the points you put into a stat.

But in X and Y, it's been easier to apply and monitor EV's and IV's more than ever. Super Training is the simplest way to train, with there being other options that work just as well if not better. IV's have to be bred correctly, and the judge in Kiloude City can tell you which stats have the best values.

Edit: or you can get lucky and just find a bombastic Pokemon out in the wild.
 
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DarrylWolf

Banned
Banned
You've never played pokemon with an actual live person, have you?


#foreveralone

Yes. I have and I've lost quite a number of times, but i have won some games, usually against other "casual" gamers. I remember in Gen One they would often say "Player is about to use X" and some unscrupulous ones decided to switch nametags to gain type mismatches or use gobbledygook to keep their opponents guessing. Now, I've found the Pokemon is revealed to you the moment it pops out of the ball, meaning you can't get intentionally misinformed by anyone, or misinform others. I'm sort of glad they only count victories because if I saw 8 wins, 9001 losses, I'd be more than willing to burn it to the ground and start from scratch. Or buy the other copy and realize I am undefeated in Pokemon Y.

Looking back, if I had thought about the Level 50 cap for stats, I would have kept my Pokemon from getting beyond it, I could have bred replicas of the Pokemon I already owned, gotten them past Level 50, and used them to beat the Elite Four, while a competitive battle team would have gotten pumped so full of vitamins their blood would have a street value. The best Pokemon I have are all Level 51 and up so no matter how much soccer they played in Super Training after level 51 or the EV Powers they might be picking up, they are rendered void by the regression of being Level 50. Of course, I could sign up for battles that cap at Level 100 but I would still need to grind to get them to Level 100 and use EV Powers until then. With a Ditto, I could breed the Pokemon and do exactly this but it all takes time, which is something I really have less and less of these days.

I also reverted my own Pokemon's names to the original ones when I found that Nintendo rooted out the "Trainer is about to use" Cheat. This means that while every Pokemon except one has their original name, that name could never be changed in a trade. The only one I kept was a male Delphox I affectionately named "Fox McCloud". Helps keep my spirits up to know that I have a Pokemon named after the main character of a game that made a Furry out of me. Before I knew about foxes' reputation in the fandom, I thought Fox McCloud would have been cool to emulate.
 
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Icky

is the prettiest pony~
Yes. I have and I've lost quite a number of times, but i have won some games, usually against other "casual" gamers. I remember in Gen One they would often say "Player is about to use X" and some unscrupulous ones decided to switch nametags to gain type mismatches or use gobbledygook to keep their opponents guessing. Now, I've found the Pokemon is revealed to you the moment it pops out of the ball, meaning you can't get intentionally misinformed by anyone, or misinform others. I'm sort of glad they only count victories because if I saw 8 wins, 9001 losses, I'd be more than willing to burn it to the ground and start from scratch.

Looking back, if I had thought about the Level 50 cap for stats, I would have kept my Pokemon from getting beyond it, I could have bred replicas of the Pokemon I already owned, gotten them past Level 50, and used them to beat the Elite Four, while a competitive battle team would have gotten pumped so full of vitamins their blood would have a street value. The best Pokemon I have are all Level 51 and up so no matter how much soccer they played in Super Training after level 51 or the EV Powers they might be picking up, they are rendered void by the regression of being Level 50. Of course, I could sign up for battles that cap at Level 100 but I would still need to grind to get them to Level 100 and use EV Powers until then.

...Again, they aren't rendered void at all. You can have pokemon as high as you want enter online battle, and they'll just get bumped down to Lv. 50. Stats don't change. (I think, anyway.)

hurp durp how do stats
 
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Toshabi

Banned
Banned
Yes. I have and I've lost quite a number of times, but i have won some games, usually against other "casual" gamers. I remember in Gen One they would often say "Player is about to use X" and some unscrupulous ones decided to switch nametags to gain type mismatches or use gobbledygook to keep their opponents guessing.


Once again, you're speaking out of your ass. That was never the case. Not even in gen 1 unless it was against an npc trainer.


#StillForeverAlone
 

Distorted

Active Member
...Again, they aren't rendered void at all. You can have pokemon as high as you want enter online battle, and they'll just get bumped down to Lv. 50. Stats don't change. (I think, anyway.)

They will change, but since the Pokemon is at lv 50 rather than lv100 their EV's are halved. So if you invested say 252 EV points to a stat, only 126 points would be represented. In a lv 100 fight, all EV's are counted and represented in the stat since the pokemon is at it's max level.
 

Icky

is the prettiest pony~
They will change, but since the Pokemon is at lv 50 rather than lv100 their EV's are halved. So if you invested say 252 EV points to a stat, only 126 points would be counted. In a lv 100 fight, all EV's are counted and represented in the stat since the pokemon is at it's max level.

Oh. So a Lv. 50 mon with exactly half-trained EVs would perform the same as a Lv. 100 mon with full EVs?
 

DarrylWolf

Banned
Banned
Once again, you're speaking out of your ass. That was never the case. Not even in gen 1 unless it was against an npc trainer.


#StillForeverAlone

No, I remember reading in a Nintendo Power about competitive battlers who would name one Pokemon after the other to fool people, next to the woman who named her Butterfree "Margarine" because it was butter-free. I thought to myself that it would be a devious strategy. Pokemon has come a long way from 1998 when that simple triangular relationship illustrated in the enclosed instruction book, alongside the type effectiveness chart (those would come in handy and still do) was what we had to go on.
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I had no illusions that it would ever get this grand and complex but knowing your types is something basic that would help any competitor out. I think the time I realized the importance of type was in 2001 when Sudowoodo was unveiled.
250px-185Sudowoodo.png

For people who used the appearance or color of a Pokemon to tell its type, this showed us not to do that.
 
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Distorted

Active Member
Oh. So a Lv. 50 mon with exactly half-trained EVs would perform the same as a Lv. 100 mon with full EVs?

Not quite. It's just that the EV's scale with the Pokemon's level and don't represent the full value until lv 100.

252 EV's equal 63 points to a stat at lv 100 (4 EV's equal 1 stat point). That same 252 points at lv 50 are scaled down to half so that stat would only have 31.5 points counted. It's because at lv 50 more EV points are needed to equal a stat point (8 EV's equal 1 stat point at lv 50). Because of this scale, battles at lv 100 are rather different because the full potential of a trained pokemon comes out. 63 points make a very noticeable difference when fighting a pokemon. IV's work in a similar way being scaled with the pokemon's level. When combined with natures and items, you're messin with some scary stuff then.
 
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