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The Pokemon Thread

Ozriel

Ozriel

Inglorious Bastard
Digitalpotato said:
Someone already gave me Pokérus on Wonder Trade, but hanks.
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But you don't have a ditto named "Town Bike" or "Town Crotch" to make it worth while!
Unless you did receive a ditto from the wonder trade named Town Bike or Crotch, then I am sorry.
I'd be surprised if you did since I flooded WT with 100 of those diseased fuckers.

(Why is Town bike and town crotch allowed as names, but I cannot use town muff?)
 
Stratelier

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
Had a random battle with a player on the PSS. The outcome was predictable, but the best moment: My Jolteon vs. his (Protean) Greninja. Linoone got one good hit (about 50%) but went down, and I figured Greninja wouldn't stay Water for long so when I sent out Jolteon, I choose Shadow Ball instead of Thunderbolt. He uses (of all things!) Extrasensory, and as a direct result the Ghost move all but KO's him.

Worst moment: Wait, I have to use my current party members? Most of my A-game is currently in the PC! And I thought Single Battles were limited to 3 Pokemon, not 4?

Still, Talonflame lasted longer against Tyranitar than she had any right to. Probably should've equipped a Charti berry.
 
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SirRob

SirRob

Well-Known Member
You oughta use the battle box then. It's extremely useful.

Single battles are only limited to 3 using flat rules. Normal rules and No restrictions don't restrict the party count.
 
FenrirDarkWolf

FenrirDarkWolf

Trapped in a Lucid Eclipse
I think I know the reason I always do poorly in tournaments.
I don't know the first thing about competitive battling, and it's really not my style going through all the trouble.
I just like to play.

Speaking of which, eventually I'll start some post-game stuffs.
And why was the Elite-Four so EASY!? >.>
 
Stratelier

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
SirRob said:
Single battles are only limited to 3 using flat rules. Normal rules and No restrictions don't restrict the party count.
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So I noticed. The guy brought in a team of four, so he would've outlasted me anyway.

I think I need to put Hawlucha back on the team for her neutrality to Rock. I could've U-Turned my Talonflame to dodge that Stone Edge (not to mention a free SE hit against Tyranitar) and swapped in something else. Plus, I can't get enough of Hawlucha knowing Dig.

Anyway, somebody gave me a male Amaura so now it's time to make some Freeze-Dry Laprases. Still looking for a Bulletproof Chespin....

It's weird to see people putting legendaries on the GTS in exchange for things like Feebas. (Apparently there are no Feebas anywhere in XY, because the GTS doesn't have any. At all.)
 
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DarrylWolf

Banned
Banned
Ikue Otani- luckiest person involved in Pokemon X and Y! Original voice of Pikachu submits one line and gets paid handsomely for it. Has her name on the end credits, too.
 
Stratelier

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
PS: My default partner in Maison Multi Battles ("Arjay") has a RAIKOU as one of his Pokemon!

(Raikou = Favorite. Legendary. Ever!)

PS - Got 20 straight wins in Multi Battles with said partner and beat the Chateaulaines with Megalucario! That. Was. Awesome.
 
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Stratelier

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
PS: Reportedly some people have built an app called "Battle Analyzer" that uses packet sniffing to acquire data about Pokemon battles. Data such as:
- Every last detail about the Pokemon sent in to the battle (EV's, IV's, moves, etc.)
- Which move the opposing player has decided to use

Point #2 is especially disturbing. It's implied that when you select an action in multiplayer battles the game communicates this to the other player right away, meaning that the Battle Analyzer can tell them what you're about to do before they've decided their own action. Like playing a game of poker against an opponent who telepathically knows when you're choosing to bluff so they can always call you on it. (e.g: Hi Jump Kick? Protect!)

This is not comparable to hacked Pokemon stats/movesets. It is much, much worse.
 
CaptainCool

CaptainCool

Lady of the lake
Stratadrake said:
PS: Reportedly some people have built an app called "Battle Analyzer" that uses packet sniffing to acquire data about Pokemon battles. Data such as:
- Every last detail about the Pokemon sent in to the battle (EV's, IV's, moves, etc.)
- Which move the opposing player has decided to use

Point #2 is especially disturbing. It's implied that when you select an action in multiplayer battles the game communicates this to the other player right away, meaning that the Battle Analyzer can tell them what you're about to do before they've decided their own action. Like playing a game of poker against an opponent who telepathically knows when you're choosing to bluff so they can always call you on it. (e.g: Hi Jump Kick? Protect!)

This is not comparable to hacked Pokemon stats/movesets. It is much, much worse.
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That is scary o_O But it does sound like a fun way to play mindgames with your oponent :D
 
SirRob

SirRob

Well-Known Member
I don't know of any Nintendo game that patched itself to protect against hacks. This thing's gonna stick around and redefine the game for the entire generation.
 
CaptainCool

CaptainCool

Lady of the lake
SirRob said:
This thing's gonna stick around and redefine the game for the entire generation.
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At least you can still play with friends. The network may get corrupted but at least we still play with each other ;__;
And then we will get torn apart because we accuse each other of hacking and cheating... q.q
 
Misomie

Misomie

Lazy Artist
If the hacking ever gets that bad (to the point I can tell), I'll stall em until the timer almost runs out. That way they have very little time to do anything. >: D
 
CaptainCool

CaptainCool

Lady of the lake
Misomie said:
If the hacking ever gets that bad (to the point I can tell), I'll stall em until the timer almost runs out. That way they have very little time to do anything. >: D
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Sadly that seems to be the only option :T
 
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DarrylWolf

Banned
Banned
Misomie said:
If the hacking ever gets that bad (to the point I can tell), I'll stall em until the timer almost runs out. That way they have very little time to do anything. >: D
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Yes, and the only way we can be truly sure is... forget it, there's no way to be safe against hackers. Nintendo has this blue pentagram around Pokemon that are safe but I'm certain hackers will find a way to replicate this sticker, attach it to the Pokemon, and move their way up in the ranks.
 
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DarrylWolf

Banned
Banned
Teal said:
WHY?!

Hacked pokemon have existed forever. It's annoying but it's not like you've got a camera on your opponent's screen, which is a much bigger deal.
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Yeah, I guess so, one other complaint is that the random battles are random in every sense of the word. You play against whoever is available, no matter how advanced in the game they are, how many hours logged, eggs hatched, or whatever. Once I whined about more experienced players eating my team for lunch, now I have the exact opposite problem, players just getting their sea-legs in battle and I'm beating them effortlessly, won six of my last seven matches against people who have no clue how to battle. The only test of your skills would not be battles you have no hope of winning or losing but battles against people whose gameplay habits are similar to yours. Maybe next game Nintendo could use Boolean eliminators to narrow down your pool of opponents to people against whom a battle would not be a waste of time.

Of course, I could simply refuse to battle against those randomly-chosen opponents but I think refusing a battle request is rude. Given how difficult it is to actually engage with a spotty Internet connection and people randomly fighting others faster than I can ask, what else could I do?
 
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Stratelier

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
CaptainCool said:
That is scary o_O But it does sound like a fun way to play mindgames with your oponent :D
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No, it removes the mindgames altogether because the opponent can see not just every card in your hand (which doesn't guarantee a win), but if reports are to be believed, once you pick a move they can see it before picking theirs. Say they throw out a Wobbuffet: the Battle Analyzer gives them perfect certainty about whether you're going to use a physical or special move and, thus, whether they should Counter or Mirror Coat it. So unless you have a recovery move, Ghost-type physical striker, Dark-type special striker, or can somehow win through status ailments, they are going to win every time.

Misomie said:
I hope Gamefreak patches again. D:

I don't want this thing around.
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Unpatchable, sorry. Not for being technically impossible to fix (all the game has to do is transmit a 'ready' code to the other player, and after all players are 'ready' THEN it transmits the details about each chosen actions), but because the patch would have to be server-enforced mandatory (like the MK7 online patch) for all players, because the patched version would be non-compatible with unpatched version.

Reportedly the Pokecheck guys are being more white hat about the subject and are even working on an (unofficial, of course) app that can counter it. In the meantime, the only guaranteed way to prevent your opponent from being told in advance of your move (if you suspect they're using the Battle Analyzer) is to run out the clock. Which would make battles REALLY long and drawn out . . . possibly the perfect torture for those cheaters.

SirRob said:
I don't know of any Nintendo game that patched itself to protect against hacks. This thing's gonna stick around and redefine the game for the entire generation.
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It really only affects Internet play. Since the Battle Analyzer is a separate app that relies on setting up your own network to sniff packets with, it's NOT going to affect local (in-person) multiplayer or official tournaments.
 
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