The Pokemon Thread
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Another thing they need to fix is shutting down communications during the Elite Four challenge. It is entirely possible for someone to enter a match, bring out only one Pokemon, and toss the match quickly, just so they can get the full restore as quickly as possible on their entire team while they fight the Elite Four. It even happened to me once. It's infuriating because now I have a tainted victory given me only because someone was trying to exploit the game's generosity. Fifteen years of Pokemon trainers who bought up all the Revives and Full Restores in an attempt to win five straight matches now can cheat to get ahead, eliminating the one true in-game challenge you would ever face, at least before Battle Maison. But when you need to cheat against trainers whose Pokemon are lower level and you have more supplies than they do, you don't need yet another competitive advantage.
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Wither
Is honestly confused by life.
I blew through the elite four with a Talonflame that was only 5 levels higher than them.
Talonflame is weak to 2 out of the four and half of the fire team.
:I
It shouldn't fucking matter anyway. It's not some large feat, mate.
I know. Is it too much to ask that an ingame opponent be strong enough so that there's no shame in losing to them?
Wither
Is honestly confused by life.
Alexxx-Returns
The Sergal that Didn't Vore
I forgot how cool those 3 were.
Or the Battle Maison in this game, or the Battle Subway in Unova.
But still, I can't help but think that the Professors fawn all over you, with tears welling in their eyes, with some maudlin coming-of-age speech when you beat the Champion, which is something millions of people have done. They throw a parade in X and Y in your honor, they heap all kinds of praise on you, but it's really not a big deal at all. You're the Champion of an entire region, but it really means nothing, now you've got to win the meta-game against opponents. What if the Elite Four and Champion were more than just an afterthought?
Alexxx-Returns
The Sergal that Didn't Vore
Well, they are trying to make a good story.
It would seriously break the 4th wall if the professor (or the champion) was to say that millions of others had already beaten that part of the game. We know this to be true anyway, but it's cool to try and get into the story a little. And then there's kids who will be playing these games. I remember when I was about 6, beating Gary for the first time in Red version - how huge a deal it was at the time! At that age, you literally are the champion =D
That's a good thought though, it would be interesting to see the concept taken a little further than just a rite of passage. How that would be achieved, though, would be beyond me. And again, every other player would have finished that challenge too, and it wouldn't be a big deal.
Shouldn't you say that for EVERY game?
What does it matter that you've saved the kingdom? Become a champion? Slayed the ultimate evil?
Someone else has already done it, is doing it and will do it.
Why the fuck are you complaining?
Are you upset that you don't get to feel "special"?
It might work when you were abut 8 years old and stuck with 1999 technology. Bringing a Game Link Cable with you everywhere was hard and many of us would have thrown a temper tantrum when we lost. So to us it was a big deal being the champion just as much as seeing the movie, sleeping on Pikachu bed sheets, wearing Pokemon clothes, and debating how much better it was then Digimon. But inevitably, when you play competitively, now as an adult, you will find out just how hollow those words of being a "Champion" are. the title does broaden your prospects of winning competitions against other flesh-and-blood opponents by opening up the Safari and Maison, but when you have no real threat of losing against the Elite Four and Champion, you have to wonder why it's considered much of a challenge.
Also, the game does a bad job of preparing you for the metagame. Often trainers will use stats-boosting moves before losing a match, leading one to think those moves are useless and that you can win through brute force. The single player game can be solved through brute force but Nintendo made a pretty strategic game.
Stratelier
Well-Known Member
...for saving Kalos from, you know, some guys in red suits with a WMD in their hands and all.
Wither
Is honestly confused by life.
The game...
is marketed....
to kids. Kids do not want to care about egg moves, EVs, strategic play, abilities/Hidden Abilities, type covering, and optimizing movesets.
And it's not like they neglect strategic players, go play a in any of the battle places. You can easily learn that stat boosting moves are 100% viable and brute force wont always work.
Also, your "logic" is awful. Not much more to it, mate. One last thing: Game Freak makes the game :I
But billions of otherpeople saved Kalos :v
Another thing- the battle randomizer picks a completely random opponent so until you see who they are and what they have accomplished, which only happens once you battle, you really have no idea whether or not you really are picking on someone your own size. So to speak, you could be battling a giant or a midget. I've had a recent run of winning, but being my own toughest critic, I think "Hey, Trainer X has only competed in ten battles, I have about 60 so I don't know if I'm winning based on skill or my opponent's lack of experience." Given the massive amount of people playing the game at any one point, it would make sense that next game, we can use certain criteria to narrow it down and get ideal opponents. No guaranteed defeats, no guaranteed victories, a truly level playing field so we don't end up wasting time on battles we can't win or battles we can't lose.
Stratelier
Well-Known Member
They saved 'their' Kalos, not yours. Y'know, alternate universes and such.
Anyway, I finished creating my Trainer PR video; I would describe it as 'cool, but with a slight goofy streak' (or "Delphox, you ruined the shot!"). Ping me sometime
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Most people who play Pokemon nowadays started out as elementary schoolers. We were a bunch of brats when Pokemon came out in the US in 1998 but that's understandably so when you're in grade school. We would throw temper tantrums when we lost because that's what preteens do when they don't get their way. And our technology was limited, too. You had to carry around a Game Link Cable nearly all the time and schools, which were the social environment we used to find other potential gamers, banned the game by and large. It's not very hard to see why- people were cheating, getting into fights, and losing sleep and tears over a bunch of pixels.
Now, I hear stories of Battle Analyzers which help others know exactly what a Trainer will do in any given situation- some people grew up with Pokemon, and others never really grew up at all. The cheating is bad because there are people who really do devote a lot of time in making the perfect team, with all the right moves, natures, and IV Powers, and it takes them hours, but a little cheating device can negate all that. At least we know where those Pokemon cheaters ended up.
The worst thing about cheaters- their existence makes one question the legitimacy of the achievements of those who DID all the work to be at the top. Comparing Poke-cheaters to steroid users in baseball is a good analogy because they throw the sports' legitimacy into question.
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Stratelier
Well-Known Member
When you view a Pokemon in the PC there is a hexagon-like mark that is NOT part of the six markings you can assign. This is rumored to be a legitimacy flag or somesuch.
CaptainCool
Lady of the lake
According to Serebii this has been confirmed.
DrDingo
Moved to phoenix.corvidae.org with the others
Only just now have I actually discovered that there is a European release date confirmed for Pokemon Bank. Until now I just assumed the only release date out there was the North American one.
I'm definitely gonna be looking forward to transferring my old favourites to a place where they can battle in glorious 3D against anyone in the world.
I'm definitely gonna be looking forward to transferring my old favourites to a place where they can battle in glorious 3D against anyone in the world.
TransformerRobot
Robot in disguise
Am I the only one who thinks Gen. 6 started too soon after Gen. 5?
No, because gen 6 is much better than gen 5.
DrDingo
Moved to phoenix.corvidae.org with the others
Well, I did prefer Gen 5's story. Still, Gen 6 makes it so much easier to connect and battle, so it's pretty awesome.