I thought IVs were static? Are you trying to ruin me
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I thought IVs were static? Are you trying to ruin me
Judge Spear
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I'd hump a Lopunny. :I
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I'd hump a Lopunny. :I
gud nite
My mistake- it's the EVs that change but the IVs do indeed remain constant. If you are into statistics and some rather advanced algebra, as the creators of Pokemon's battle system must obviously be, you could begin to calculate what kind of Pokemon you might get. Again, this is why I have a theory that the same people who do well at Pokemon score pretty high on math tests. This is difficult to say the least, and the best idea would be to capture multiples of the same Pokemon, find the IVs and Nature you like and dump the others.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Individual_values
You didn't come with an off switch, did you? :3c
This... does not sound fun. At all. At least I still have Animal Crossing.
Oh, no. To those who have the patience and free time and the number-crunching skills of a baseball manager, it makes plenty of sense to calculate EVs and IVs and can be highly addictive. But if you're not the kind of person who solves non-linear algebra problems "just for fun", then try to have fun with competing against other casual gamers and delight in having a "pretty good" team. If you know your types well enough and don't mind losing people more engrossed in the game than you are, you could have a fine time. Believe you me being really good at Pokemon requires math skills, and a devotion to playing the game.
Being completely serious right now: Darryl, are you straight-up fucking with me?
DrDingo
Moved to phoenix.corvidae.org with the others
There is a MUCH faster way to do it. Giving a pokemon an everstone will make them pass their nature down to the baby 100% of the time.
Just find a male partner in the same egg group with the right nature, and give it an everstone! Then, breed with a female of the Pokemon you want.
No, I'm absolutely not. It takes a great deal of analysis and math skills to get the best team possible. My friend who is the campus champion literally has wall hangings of flow charts, graphs, charts, and he carries more books related to Pokemon than I do related to history when he goes out to fight others. You want to win against other casual gamers, fine. You want to go hardcore, good luck with that.
Distorted
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Oh I love math. Here's the down-lo...
Your pokemon has 510 Effort Value (EV) points to play with. For every 4 points of EV's dedicated to a stat you gain 1 point in that stat. And you can only add a maximum of 255 points to a stat, but it's more efficient to add 252 EV's to give you an even amount of 64 points. These points scale with the pokemon's level though, so at lv 50 it would be 32 points added to a stat instead of 64. As for how to apply them, there are a multitude of ways to do so.
-Simply battling gets you EV points. So long as you gain experience from a pokemon you gain EV's as well.
-Vitamins can let you add a total of 100 EV's to stat. Afterward, they don't work anymore.
-Super Training is fun and lets you keep track of the EV points your Pokemon gets through training.
-Power Items will grant you 4 EV's for every pokemon you gain experience from. These items coupled with horde battles can train your pokemon even faster than Super Training.
-There are drinks you can blend from berries that also raise EV's in Lumiose City. Though I'm not too familiar on their exact values.
*In the case of EV's needing to be reset, there is a white punching bag available through super training that will reset all EV's of a pokmeon. You can come across it randomly by playing through the Super Training regimens.
Individual Values (IV) are static and unique to every pokemon. They range from 1 point to 31 points and are not shown or visible in the pokemon's statistics. They aren't as easy to manipulate as EV's neither, needing to be bred in order to be transferred. Even then there's no guarantee of getting the right values. But luckily there are ways to see if your pokemon has decent IV's.
-The judge (the stylish purple ace trainer in the corner of the Kiloude Pokemon Center) can tell you whether your pokemon has decent IV's or not. When he says that a stat "simply can't be beat" then it is regarded as a stat with perfect IV's (a value of 31).
-When breeding pokemon to get better IV's, the Destiny Knot item is very helpful as it ensures 5 IV's pass from either parent to the offspring pokemon. As in the offspring could inherit all the perfect IV's shared between parents. But this process usually takes time as it is completely random.
-Pokemon in Friend Safari usually come with 2 perfect IV's which makes it easier to breed desired IV's into a pokemon.
With proper EV and IV training/breeding coupled along with the 10% increase of natures, it is possible build a monster of a pokemon. I hope that clears it up a bit.
Your pokemon has 510 Effort Value (EV) points to play with. For every 4 points of EV's dedicated to a stat you gain 1 point in that stat. And you can only add a maximum of 255 points to a stat, but it's more efficient to add 252 EV's to give you an even amount of 64 points. These points scale with the pokemon's level though, so at lv 50 it would be 32 points added to a stat instead of 64. As for how to apply them, there are a multitude of ways to do so.
-Simply battling gets you EV points. So long as you gain experience from a pokemon you gain EV's as well.
-Vitamins can let you add a total of 100 EV's to stat. Afterward, they don't work anymore.
-Super Training is fun and lets you keep track of the EV points your Pokemon gets through training.
-Power Items will grant you 4 EV's for every pokemon you gain experience from. These items coupled with horde battles can train your pokemon even faster than Super Training.
-There are drinks you can blend from berries that also raise EV's in Lumiose City. Though I'm not too familiar on their exact values.
*In the case of EV's needing to be reset, there is a white punching bag available through super training that will reset all EV's of a pokmeon. You can come across it randomly by playing through the Super Training regimens.
Individual Values (IV) are static and unique to every pokemon. They range from 1 point to 31 points and are not shown or visible in the pokemon's statistics. They aren't as easy to manipulate as EV's neither, needing to be bred in order to be transferred. Even then there's no guarantee of getting the right values. But luckily there are ways to see if your pokemon has decent IV's.
-The judge (the stylish purple ace trainer in the corner of the Kiloude Pokemon Center) can tell you whether your pokemon has decent IV's or not. When he says that a stat "simply can't be beat" then it is regarded as a stat with perfect IV's (a value of 31).
-When breeding pokemon to get better IV's, the Destiny Knot item is very helpful as it ensures 5 IV's pass from either parent to the offspring pokemon. As in the offspring could inherit all the perfect IV's shared between parents. But this process usually takes time as it is completely random.
-Pokemon in Friend Safari usually come with 2 perfect IV's which makes it easier to breed desired IV's into a pokemon.
With proper EV and IV training/breeding coupled along with the 10% increase of natures, it is possible build a monster of a pokemon. I hope that clears it up a bit.
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Symlus
Sophisticated Snake
Ooh, IV's. It's tedious when you are breeding for 5IV pokemon (done it before, trust me) but the end result is rewarding if you are person who, like me, goes and barters. I regularly trade in certain circles for more and more, and yet, I never actually take the time to actually breed more 5IV's.
For example, a pair of 5IV pokemon is worth... 1 competitive (5 IV, perfect or near-perfect) shiny. I am constantly looking at offers and watching the market.
I would open up a pokemon trading thread, but... I dunno. I don't frequent FaF like I used to, and I don't think I'd be able to constantly monitor the thread for fairness.
For example, a pair of 5IV pokemon is worth... 1 competitive (5 IV, perfect or near-perfect) shiny. I am constantly looking at offers and watching the market.
I would open up a pokemon trading thread, but... I dunno. I don't frequent FaF like I used to, and I don't think I'd be able to constantly monitor the thread for fairness.
Judge Spear
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What's that?
TransformerRobot
Robot in disguise
Just finished watching the full Pokemon Origins. Wish it wasn't so short.
Schwimmwagen
Well-Known Member
The bit that bothers me is how much they left out.
They left out Misty. C'mooooon.
That does kind of stink, but I think this series is the one Nintendo should have put out when introducing the concept of Pokemon to America in the 1990's. They could have been more true to the games (Brock and Misty do not actually join Ash/Red at any time) and nobody would have raised a problem about Brock's ethnicity, which combined with his flirtation with every female character, ultimately caused him to be removed. There are also cities that you never could visit in the games that exist in the TV series- when I was a kid, I really wanted to see that Pokemon-themed park Giovanni had built or the garden where the Bulbasaur lived, but of course, those doesn't exist anywhere in the games. Shame this new series has to be so short, though.
No, how many times did you watch the TV show and think that it wasn't being faithful to the game or vice versa- at least, Nintendo could have showed them side by side so we could compare the two of them. If you were to remove the comic relief villains, and the failed attempts at being a serialized "buddy" movie with Brock and Misty, you would have seen a Trainer who really doesn't let any of the distractions of being a Pokemon Trainer get in the way. We only get four episodes of Origins but I think it is a much better series even if it would not have been so lucrative.
I know Brock came back; he really was a fan favorite, because of his flirtatious personality. But for a while, while Nintendo was working up the courage to not be politically correct, we had to try and support Brock's stand-in, Tracy, the Pokemon photographer whose only real claim to fame was being the guy who the Professor would berate in "Pokemon Snap".
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That's what I meant, I don't see how Nintendo could have built a fad around a TV series that takes itself so seriously. Nintendo chose the more kid-friendly series, the more lucrative series, and they should be glad that they did. The '90s series, bad as it was, made us buy as much Pokemon as we could.
The two series could have been aired side by side- Sonic tried an approach like that in 1993 and it worked pretty well. Of course, I don't think Pokemon Origins existed when Pokemon was first being introduced to Americans so it might not have even mattered. As it is right now, Origins is simply too short to have been of any use to Nintendo back in 1998.
It is a nice change of pace from the main Pokemon series, which tried to use translated-from-Japanese humor to tell an interesting story about Pokemon.
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TransformerRobot
Robot in disguise
Caught a Drifloon. FINALLY! 
Yes, but there are a lot of other things in the anime that were handled poorly;
-Two of the Kanto Gym Leaders get reduced to traveling companions for the hero.
-The rival is more annoying than before.
-Most Pokemon repeat their own names rather than making the usual grunts, roars or barks.
-Sabrina is turned into a stoic bitch with split personality disorder.
-The Kanto Elite Four are unused until several seasons later (Excluding Lorelei and Bruno).
-Team Rocket employs a trio of idiots who pop up every episode only to get beaten within inches of their lives.
-Giovani doesn't do anything even close to quitting Team Rocket.
Yes, but there are a lot of other things in the anime that were handled poorly;
-Two of the Kanto Gym Leaders get reduced to traveling companions for the hero.
-The rival is more annoying than before.
-Most Pokemon repeat their own names rather than making the usual grunts, roars or barks.
-Sabrina is turned into a stoic bitch with split personality disorder.
-The Kanto Elite Four are unused until several seasons later (Excluding Lorelei and Bruno).
-Team Rocket employs a trio of idiots who pop up every episode only to get beaten within inches of their lives.
-Giovani doesn't do anything even close to quitting Team Rocket.
Caught a Drifloon. FINALLY!
Yes, but there are a lot of other things in the anime that were handled poorly;
-Two of the Kanto Gym Leaders get reduced to traveling companions for the hero.
-The rival is more annoying than before.
-Most Pokemon repeat their own names rather than making the usual grunts, roars or barks.
-Sabrina is turned into a stoic bitch with split personality disorder.
-The Kanto Elite Four are unused until several seasons later (Excluding Lorelei and Bruno).
-Team Rocket employs a trio of idiots who pop up every episode only to get beaten within inches of their lives.
-Giovani doesn't do anything even close to quitting Team Rocket.
That's the reason why we liked it as kids and it sold so well to us. We needed comic relief villains, a snot-nosed punk of a rival, and we did not mind continuity errors between the game and TV series. All in all, I'd have to say that Pokemon showed us just how colorful Japanese animation could be, but this series can only be thought of as good when viewed through the lens of nostalgia. However, it was the first exposure to Pokemon in the 1990's that really brought anime into the minds of Americans- prior to Pokemon, anime was really only watched in Japanese enclaves or by Nipponophiles. After Pokemon, there was a heightened interest in all things dealing with Japanese animation.
I, for one was interested in if Nintendo would ever release a sidestory game where we got to see the Orange Island League, located on islands south of Pallet Town that did not exist in the game. When Nintendo finally released Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen, we saw the Sevii Islands, which were cool but not as fun as an actual additional league you could fight other Gym Leaders in. There are other places mentioned in the TV series that would have been perfect to include in the games.