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The Pokemon Thread

SirRob

Well-Known Member
I don't think I've ever played a fake of anything, but I've never ordered a physical game online, either. I always use GameStop.

Should be alright then :p
Just hatched an adamant gabite, not sure if i should go with that or wait for a jolly one.
I think Jolly's generally better for Garchomp (Mine's Jolly), but Adamant is a pretty close second. Adamant might be better if you're gonna stick a Choice Scarf on Garchomp.
 

yell0w_f0x

~Foxy loves oreo~
Mega kangaskhan was banned from use I think. Parental bond is a freaky strong ability.

Is mega blaziken still banned? Gale wings talonflame can check and counter him easily.
 

SirRob

Well-Known Member
I doubt Harbinger's meet up will use Smogon rules though. I'd be surprised if they'd even know what that is, haha.
Talonflame isn't a Mega Blaziken counter because of Stone Edge. Mega Blaziken has no counters below Uber territory.
 

yell0w_f0x

~Foxy loves oreo~
I doubt Harbinger's meet up will use Smogon rules though. I'd be surprised if they'd even know what that is, haha.
Talonflame isn't a Mega Blaziken counter because of Stone Edge. Mega Blaziken has no counters below Uber territory.

Wait what? So priority banded brave bird doesn't 0hko mega blaziken? Damn that chicken is strong. Lol
 

SirRob

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Wait what? So priority banded brave bird doesn't 0hko mega blaziken? Damn that chicken is strong. Lol
It does, it's just that the term counter implies that you can switch in Talonflame when Mega Blaziken's out. Talonflame can check it, but it can't counter it.
 

yell0w_f0x

~Foxy loves oreo~
Oh. I always thought counter means ye have a way to defeating the opponent and check is like to scare off the opponent. I understand that it still isn't easy to switch in talonflame to mega blaziken.

@harbringer. I like mega aggron. Just cuz he is an awesoem physical tank. He's also good without Megastone..
 

SirRob

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Oh. I always thought counter means ye have a way to defeating the opponent and check is like to scare off the opponent. I understand that it still isn't easy to switch in talonflame to mega blaziken.

@harbringer. I like mega aggron. Just cuz he is an awesoem physical tank. He's also good without Megastone..
That's sort of the same definition though, isn't it?
I've got the same problem with my Gyarados. I put that thing on my team specifically for Mega Blaziken and it can't even switch in on it reliably.
 

yell0w_f0x

~Foxy loves oreo~
Lol. Now that I think about it. It sorta is. Haha

Speed boost is a killer. But trick room makes him useless. I used to run mega blaziken during my first run through. Had no eV training then but once I let trick room set up in that battle academy thing and lost.
 
Z

Zraxi

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I wonder when Smogon will update their stuff with gen 6 pokemon. I'd like to know how they compare to the older ones.
 

yell0w_f0x

~Foxy loves oreo~
I wonder when Smogon will update their stuff with gen 6 pokemon. I'd like to know how they compare to the older ones.

I beleieve i saw some completed xy stuff on their forums section. Was looking at their completed pangoro analysis yesterday.
 

SirRob

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Yeah, if you can get Trick Room set up before Mega Blaziken comes out, then you're pretty set. It can do a decent job of stalling though, with Protect.
I think Jellicent might be the closest thing to a counter, but my sense of style won't let me use it.
 

yell0w_f0x

~Foxy loves oreo~
Lol. I wouldn't use jellicent either.
 

Stratelier

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Talonflame isn't a Mega Blaziken counter because of Stone Edge.
I *@#&%^ HATE coming up against Stone Edge.

The only time Stone Edge does NOT OHKO Talonflame is if the user happens to be Shuckle (without Power Trick).

Or if you're in an Inverse Battle.
 

Harbinger

The Last of Us.
Well hopefully its more of a casual thing than competitive, ive played pokemon all these years but i never battled or EV trained and bred and all that jazz untill speaking with you guys in this thread :p
Since my last post i've been breeding Gible, filled a box and no jolly natures, didnt think it was rare. Got 4 adamants though :/
 

SirRob

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I remember building a Dark/Fire team back in Diamond and being really proud of it. It was the first team I tried to make competitively. I dunno whether it was here or on the main site, but I battled ChillCoyotl and he just completely obliterated my team without losing even a single Pokemon. I remember getting super frustrated about it, and I resolved to make a much better team. I dunno if I'd be into serious competitive battling if not for that match.
 

Harbinger

The Last of Us.
Every battle i've had has gone that way bar one or two :p
I just dont want to embarrass myself, losing every single pokemon without even doing half damage to a pokemon is pathetic, i still have horrible flash backs of the tournemnt here -_-
I have no intentions of beating anyone i just dont want to go down without a fight but rather Boromir style.
 

Alexxx-Returns

The Sergal that Didn't Vore
I think my problem is my insistence on using 'weak' favourites such as Shiftry/Froslass.

No amount of breeding/training will make them compare to the OU's, so a good strong lead like Tyranitar/Aerodactyl gets used, and takes over because it's so good. After that, what's the point, really, in having the weak ones there at all?
 

SirRob

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You know, what I recommend is to start out using the best of the best, without any concern for favorites. Then when you get more experienced and have a better feel for the competitive environment, you can branch out and make more interesting teams.
 

Harbinger

The Last of Us.
Yeah if i have any more space i'll just go for the easiest options.
I completely forgot i got an adamant moxie heracross through a wonder trade sitting in a box. How should i super train it?
Put it all in attack?
Oh yeah, guess i need to know some of the lingo, what are these power tanks, and sweepers i've been hearing so much about?
How many do you need of each and what else do you need?
 
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SirRob

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I'd train Heracross in HP and Attack, especially if you're gonna use Mega Heracross. I don't think you'd want to invest speed in it unless you want to outrun something specific, since it's generally not going to get the first attack in, anyway.

A sweeper is a fast and powerful Pokemon generally focused on all-out attacks. I think it's called a sweeper because it can clean whatever's left of your opponent's team after you take out all of the Pokemon that can resist the sweeper's attacks.
I've never heard of a power tank, although it sounds similar to a bulky sweeper-- A sweeper that can take a couple of hits.

I wouldn't say there's a set rule to how many Pokemon you should have in each role, but in general you'd want at least one offensive Pokemon and a defensive one that can cover the offensive Pokemon's weaknesses. Once you get enough experience, you can tailor your team to have more specialized roles, since you'll find yourself losing to specific Pokemon. I took Aegislash off my team and replaced it with Roserade, because Aegislash didn't help against any specific Pokemon (although it was a good Pokemon in general), while I found myself consistently losing to Quagsire and Rotom-W, who are relatively common online.
 
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Arcane Reno

Member
Hmm, out of interest, what's the thought on having DD on Charizard for Mega X? I've been debating over his moveset, and without the access to drought that Y has, having him go physical is a much better option, but his speed is only good, not great. Looking at his stats, he seems like he'd be able to take at least one hit that's not from a sweeper, stone edge, or outrage.
 

SirRob

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Every competent Mega Charizard X I've faced uses Dragon Dance. It's a big threat to my team, too, since I always expect Charizard Y.
 

Harbinger

The Last of Us.
This is fucking apeshit ridiculous.
I'd thought i'd try out my pokemon to see how they are doing.
First game on battlespot in months, and im up against some uber tier shit with some stealthy rocking shuckle, followed by a shiny mother fucking suicune.
None of my pokemon dented any of his. After that game had one more against another random. Mother fucking full team shinies including fucking shiny fucking darkrai, shiny protean greninja, aggron, dragonite, ffs...

Jesus fucking christ this game is so infuriating, why cant i get partied up with shitter people than me for a change?
 

SirRob

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Darkrai? You should do ranked battles, they're um, people can't use Darkrai there.
I can't stand Suicune. If you don't have anything that can KO it in 2 turns, you're screwed. And even if you do have something super effective against Suicune, if it's a special attack you're still not gonna put a dent in it. Not to mention the event one has Sheer Cold.
 

yell0w_f0x

~Foxy loves oreo~
Hmm, out of interest, what's the thought on having DD on Charizard for Mega X? I've been debating over his moveset, and without the access to drought that Y has, having him go physical is a much better option, but his speed is only good, not great. Looking at his stats, he seems like he'd be able to take at least one hit that's not from a sweeper, stone edge, or outrage.

Dragon dance makes char x awesome making him fast and powerful especially with tough claws boost. I run it in my char x. And with fire/dragon typing, you won't need to worry about x4 weakness to anything. Although you lose that immunity to ground (earthquake would be a common move with X2 weakness).

Charizard is a great pokemon to use mind games on. Could be char x or char y or just plain charizard. Ye can mix em up and confuse opponents.
 
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