The Pokemon Thread

[SirRob]

The anime's childish, yeah. But that's part of its charm. [noparse][/noparse]
I've actually been watching the Japanese dub of the Kanto episodes. It's amazing how much 4kids changed for no reason, like the music and of course the cultural references. I like the 4kids version too, but the Japanese version is an entirely different beast, and I think it's more enjoyable overall.
There's a site I use that compares the dubs, and it's pretty funny-- http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net
You should check out its comparison of the first movie.

 

[Milo]

The anime's childish, yeah. But that's part of its charm. [noparse][/noparse]
I've actually been watching the Japanese dub of the Kanto episodes. It's amazing how much 4kids changed for no reason, like the music and of course the cultural references. I like the 4kids version too, but the Japanese version is an entirely different beast, and I think it's more enjoyable overall.
There's a site I use that compares the dubs, and it's pretty funny-- http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net
You should check out its comparison of the first movie.

that's how most anime works. some anime shows are G rated in america, yet would be considered PG13, or even R if they showed us the japanese version.

but yea, that's why I love pokemon so much. when you're not thinking about the dark undertone of it, it's a good escape.

especially the way everyone interacts with eachother in the show. everyone is the best of friends with eachother

 

[yell0w_f0x]

I prefer pokemon origins over the original anime tho. It's much more mature. And man. That battle in the end was really intense. The one with blastoise and charizard.

Oh. And char x!

 

[SirRob]

Gash Bell would definitely be one of those R rated shows, hahaha

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I think I need to watch Origins again because I forget what my opinion on it was, haha. I do like that it stuck to the games very closely, and the English dub is great. At the same time I do think the anime does some things better than Origins, particularly when it comes to the bond between the trainer and their Pokemon.

 

[yell0w_f0x]

one main reasonn i dont like the origial anime is ash.
i was giggling withnostalgia the first time i watched origins tho. and when squirtle used bite on charmander.. tho i doubt thed be able to show much on bonds with trainer and pokemon in just 4 episodes. wish theyd do a whole new anime series that really follows the game tho. would be interesting.


and speaking of game.. im a mere 60+ pokemon away from completing the national dex!!

 

[Icky]

\wish theyd do a whole new anime series that really follows the game tho.

origins

:T

 

[SirRob]

He means like a long running series. I think it'd be better though if the main anime stuck closer to the games. (It sorta irks me that there's so much content to draw from in the games, but the writers decide instead to create filler junk.) There's no need for two, really.

 

[Milo]

But Ash is...

 

[SirRob]

I-I'm not gonna bring that up!!

 

[SirRob]

Alright, well I've come to a point where I'm not able to win even a single battle with my team anymore. The fact that even sub-1500 players have teams made up of some of the best Pokemon in the game (as well as displaying a high level of competence) shows that there really isn't any room at this point to use anything that isn't in the highest tiers. I'm not sure what to do about this... I'm tempted to try and make a better team, but without using legendaries (since getting a competitive one is outside the realm of feasibility) I'm severely handicapping myself and I probably wouldn't perform any better either way. I think I'm just gonna have to call it quits. :\

 

[DrDingo]

Alright, well I've come to a point where I'm not able to win even a single battle with my team anymore. The fact that even sub-1500 players have teams made up of some of the best Pokemon in the game (as well as displaying a high level of competence) shows that there really isn't any room at this point to use anything that isn't in the highest tiers. I'm not sure what to do about this... I'm tempted to try and make a better team, but without using legendaries (since getting a competitive one is outside the realm of feasibility) I'm severely handicapping myself and I probably wouldn't perform any better either way. I think I'm just gonna have to call it quits. :\

This ain't the first time I've felt disappointed at the hugely unbalanced metagame.
One thing I've done is learn to like the powerful Pokemon. I try to develop a liking for some of the top-tier Pokemon and give them witty names, but to be honest I think my favourite one to use is my (UU tier) Porygon-Z. What I would really like is to be able to use a cool-looking Pokemon like say, Linoone or Zangoose without getting annihilated!

 

[Distorted]

I dislike tiers, but I won't deny their existence. It gets rather depressing when you're losing to the same thing over and over, even moreso when everyone is using the same top tier threats that are hard to beat without you doing the same. It's part of the reason I don't like to play competitively.

I think there's a list of the most used Pokemon in rated battles on the Pokemon site. It breaks down the moves they used the most and what moves took them out as well.

 

[SirRob]

Pokemon is fine without total balance, because there's actually quite a large pool of those top-tier Pokemon and so you're still offered a wide variety of options.
The problem for me is that you don't really get access to a lot of those top-tier Pokemon, like Cresselia, Thundurus, Heatran, etc, and without them your team isn't gonna have the coverage it could. Like, Cresselia's the main check to Garchomp, while Heatran's the best at stopping Talonflame. So even if you have no qualms about the Pokemon you use, you'll still perform badly.

 

[DrDingo]

Pokemon is fine without total balance, because there's actually quite a large pool of those top-tier Pokemon and so you're still offered a wide variety of options.
The problem for me is that you don't really get access to a lot of those top-tier Pokemon, like Cresselia, Thundurus, Heatran, etc, and without them your team isn't gonna have the coverage it could. Like, Cresselia's the main check to Garchomp, while Heatran's the best at stopping Talonflame. So even if you have no qualms about the Pokemon you use, you'll still perform badly.

Not to mention the only Smogon-legal Garchomp is the Dream World one!
It's a shame that using specific Pokémon and EV training gives me a 6-0 win over my friends. I just wish I could have an even battle with 'em. They don't like playing it with me anymore because, as they put it- "You'll just beat me again!"

 

[yell0w_f0x]

so like.... does anyone have a spare houndoominite or one that they dont want anymore?
im willing to trade stuff for it.. i have an extra reshiram i apparently got off from wonder trade.
im supposedly complete with pokebank exclusive pokes. (not legeendaries) so i can breed you one if ye need em.
i got an extremespeed dratini if ye want one.
please help me get the hell dog's stone.

 

[DrDingo]

I know that Mega Evolutions shouldn't be stupidly overpowered, but as far as they go Absol is a little bit underpowered. Sure, it has Magic Bounce, but so can Espeon- a Pokemon which has an offensive stat of 130 and its speed is still spectacular- only lower by 5!

 

[yell0w_f0x]

and mega kangaskhan is way too overpowered. lol.

 

[DrDingo]

I suppose, adding to what I said earlier- You can't do a straight-off switch in with Mega Absol and catch the opponent off guard, since you need a turn to set up!
That'd go for all Mega Evos with defensive traits.

 

[yell0w_f0x]

not to mention that they still use their original speed stat on the turn they mega-evolve.

so like.... does anyone have a spare houndoominite or one that they dont want anymore?
im willing to trade stuff for it.. i have an extra reshiram i apparently got off from wonder trade.
im supposedly complete with pokebank exclusive pokes. (not legeendaries) so i can breed you one if ye need em.
i got an extremespeed dratini if ye want one.
please help me get the hell dog's stone.

im still looking for houndoominite. if anyone is willing to help this fox out. :3

 

[DrDingo]

not to mention that they still use their original speed stat on the turn they mega-evolve.


im still looking for houndoominite. if anyone is willing to help this fox out. :3

Ah, I can't help with that. I have Pokemon X!

I googled that Mega Evolution thing to make sure it was true but found nothing on it. Mega Evolution has priority, so that the Pokemon will Mega Evolve before it even uses a move.

 

[SirRob]

It's true, I gave my Lucario Protect so it doesn't get outsped by Mega Kangaskhan.

 

[yell0w_f0x]

Ah, I can't help with that. I have Pokemon X!

I googled that Mega Evolution thing to make sure it was true but found nothing on it. Mega Evolution has priority, so that the Pokemon will Mega Evolve before it even uses a move.

i got X too.. hehe

mega evolution has priority +7 so you mega evolve first before anything. but the speed in which you use the move is determined before you megaevolve. so if you have 95 before mega, and 115 after mega, while your opponent has 100, his move will still go first. unless the move used is priority.

I think I'm just gonna have to call it quits. :\

dont quit just yet. we still havent battled yet. my team aint complete yet.

 

[Alexxx-Returns]

So I've almost finished wonder trading out all my non-shiny non-genetically favourable Electrikes. I'm feeling inspired by all the talk in this thread to complete the Dex for the FIRST TIME in playing Pokemon. It's amazing how quickly WT can help you fill it up - I got both a Skrelp AND Dragalge (I play X).

And also got traded a Phione, which I couldn't be happier about.

 

[yell0w_f0x]

So I've almost finished wonder trading out all my non-shiny non-genetically favourable Electrikes. I'm feeling inspired by all the talk in this thread to complete the Dex for the FIRST TIME in playing Pokemon. It's amazing how quickly WT can help you fill it up - I got both a Skrelp AND Dragalge (I play X).

And also got traded a Phione, which I couldn't be happier about.

wonder trade is awesome. i got almost all the pokemon i needed for my dex from there. and not to mention the reshiram i got. and its also heaven for breeders. most of the pokemon have egg moves and hidden abilities and nice pokeballs.

 

[Alexxx-Returns]

wonder trade is awesome. i got almost all the pokemon i needed for my dex from there. and not to mention the reshiram i got. and its also heaven for breeders. most of the pokemon have egg moves and hidden abilities and nice pokeballs.

Yup, I'm pretty pleased with the 5IV Japanese Rhyhorn I got (minus Attack). That's the one I'm using to breed my Electrikes.