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Weiss

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Collect a bunch of eggs. Mark them. Save. Hatch them. If one shiny, remember what it's marked pattern was. Shut off.
Shiny egg guranteed. Tht is what I meant. Very painstalking wirk tho. Literally pre hatching .
 

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, but a shiny Pokemon is calculated off 4 numbers, right? And if their... processing... results in a number less than 8, you get a shiny. And 2 of these numbers come from your second, hidden Trainer number? So... do you reckon that some trainer numbers are more... favourable, to getting a shiny? Like, more often does the number they produce come out lower?
Not really. Shiny calculation is indeed based off of four numbers:

A - Your official trainer ID (16 bits)
B - your secret trainer ID (16 bits)
C and D - the individual Pokemon's secret personality value (32 bits)

The formula is (a xor b) xor (c xor d) < 8.

So (A xor B) is your trainer's so-called "shiny value", but C and D are assigned at random when the Pokemon is initially generated. So no, it doesn't really make a difference.
 

Icky

is the prettiest pony~
Collect a bunch of eggs. Mark them. Save. Hatch them. If one shiny, remember what it's marked pattern was. Shut off.
Shiny egg guranteed. Tht is what I meant. Very painstalking wirk tho. Literally pre hatching .

So...your strategy is to hatch a bunch of eggs, remember one's markings if it's shiny, and turn the game off? Why wouldn't you just keep the goddamn shiny you just hatched?
 

DrDingo

Moved to phoenix.corvidae.org with the others
Collect a bunch of eggs. Mark them. Save. Hatch them. If one shiny, remember what it's marked pattern was. Shut off.
Shiny egg guranteed. Tht is what I meant. Very painstalking wirk tho. Literally pre hatching .
I agree with Icky, all of the data things about an egg's Pokémon are determined upon receiving the egg.
It would be more efficient to hatch them in masses without any resets. It's not only faster, but also easier to do. If the shiny egg hatches adamant, then no matter how many times you try to hatch it it will end up being adamant. So there is no point in turning off.
 
W

Weiss

Guest
I do that. Hatch five at a time. I save and retry if no come out shiny. But when I get an egg that is shiny, as said I remember it's marking, shut off, clone the egg, and shiny eggs for all.
I gotta rule for every pokemon to be owned by me, my current person. The OT must match the trainer.
 
W

Weiss

Guest
And once and egg is made it's dna is set. No matter what it will stay the same, nothing will change about it even when traded. If it was shiney it will stay shiny. Even the moveset and nature stays perfectly the same. So trading it will not have on effect. Trust me I know.
 

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
If it was shiney it will stay shiny.
That is simply not true. Unless GF changed the shiny formula so that the change in OT (due to hatching) is mirrored by a change in the Pokemon's personality value, if you trade a shiny egg to someone else it will no longer be shiny (in 99.9% of cases at least).

That's also how sites like Instacheck worked; find just the right Trainer to give an egg to and you can guarantee it will hatch shiny (for them but not you). Remember that what you're saying goes both ways: If a shiny Egg remains shiny upon hatching, a non-shiny Egg will remain non-Shiny upon hatching.

(Would you like to set up an XY trade sometime and prove it?)

Oh, and BTW, if you're going to spend the time to acquire and hatch five Eggs just to check for shininess (because the Egg's data is set at acquisition time, only the OT is set at hatch time), what's the point of soft resetting?
 
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Alexxx-Returns

The Sergal that Didn't Vore
I want a Talonflame right freaking now ;__;

Screw that, I want a baby Zapdos! :

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W

Weiss

Guest
That is simply not true. Unless GF changed the shiny formula so that the change in OT (due to hatching) is mirrored by a change in the Pokemon's personality value, if you trade a shiny egg to someone else it will no longer be shiny (in 99.9% of cases at least).

That's also how sites like Instacheck worked; find just the right Trainer to give an egg to and you can guarantee it will hatch shiny (for them but not you). Remember that what you're saying goes both ways: If a shiny Egg remains shiny upon hatching, a non-shiny Egg will remain non-Shiny upon hatching.

(Would you like to set up an XY trade sometime and prove it?)

Oh, and BTW, if you're going to spend the time to acquire and hatch five Eggs just to check for shininess (because the Egg's data is set at acquisition time, only the OT is set at hatch time), what's the point of soft resetting?

What was the last game you played? :?
Yes. I have done this to myself several times from my X to Y.
I shall.
And the purpose of soft resetting is to keep it an unhatched shiny.
 

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
And the purpose of soft resetting is to keep it an unhatched shiny.
Okay, I can see that, but in the 99% of cases where they're not, a SR makes no difference whatsoever.

What was the last [Pokemon] game you played? :?
Umm ... all of them?

Of which I have only ever hatched one egg Shiny and it was my own.

(If you'd still like to trade, I should be available tomorrow, but you should record everything you can about the shiny egg - IVs/Characteristic, Nature, HP type, etc.)
 
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Harbinger

The Last of Us.
Been wondering why my munnna hasnt evolved, been leveling it up and leveling it up, then i find out it needs a moon stone -_-
Also watching the victini movie, thought this character sounded familiar, AND HOLY SHIT ITS LAWRENCE FROM SPICE AND WOLF!
 
W

Weiss

Guest
Been wondering why my munnna hasnt evolved, been leveling it up and leveling it up, then i find out it needs a moon stone -_-Also watching the victini movie, thought this character sounded familiar, AND HOLY SHIT ITS LAWRENCE FROM SPICE AND WOLF!
Nishijima from Mirai Nikki?What you mean?
 

Jags

Shepherd of Fire
AND HOLY SHIT ITS LAWRENCE FROM SPICE AND WOLF!

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Starting to explain to my friend what EV training is and about Pokemon team building. It's very hard work to explain to someone who doesn't understand the difference between the 6 basic stats :I
 
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Zraxi

Guest
I bought Pokemon Battle Trozei a couple days ago and wow, it's harder than I thought. Some of the pokemon have some hilarious faces. Drowsee I'm looking at you
 

Stratelier

Well-Known Member
Apparently TPP does not like Fire types: They released Torchic. Boo : o

In its stead is Azumarill, Ninjask/Shedinja (yes, they have a Shedinja!), and a total of five Poochyena.

Apparently, one can never have too many Poochyena. No gods, no Mon, only doge.
 
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Alexxx-Returns

The Sergal that Didn't Vore
Apparently TPP does not like Fire types: They released Torchic. Boo :eek:

In its stead is Azumarill, Ninjask/Shedinja (yes, they have a Shedinja!), and a total of five Poochyena.

Apparently, one can never have too many Poochyena. No gods, no Mon, only doge.

I've been having this on in the background for the last couple of days since my exam ended. The word doge makes my brain hurt now.
 

yell0w_f0x

~Foxy loves oreo~
Ooh. New online competition. I think I'll go register for this April friendly. Who else will be joining this?

And it's right up my alley too. 3 pokemon single battles. I gotta prep my team.

They're letting legendaries join in too so my biggest problem would be yveltal. I really have a hard time battling that bird. Lol. I may need to run electric moves for coverage now.

And not to mention I may be benching my pangoro with yveltal around. :(
 

DrDingo

Moved to phoenix.corvidae.org with the others
Ooh. New online competition. I think I'll go register for this April friendly. Who else will be joining this?

And it's right up my alley too. 3 pokemon single battles. I gotta prep my team.

They're letting legendaries join in too so my biggest problem would be yveltal. I really have a hard time battling that bird. Lol. I may need to run electric moves for coverage now.

And not to mention I may be benching my pangoro with yveltal around. :(
If I signed up to that, my biggest problem'd be that I wouldn't be able to use most of my favourite team. It only allows Pokemon that were hatched or caught in Kalos, and I transferred a few over!
 

Keshiji

Beware of the lion... rawr!
That is simply not true. Unless GF changed the shiny formula so that the change in OT (due to hatching) is mirrored by a change in the Pokemon's personality value, if you trade a shiny egg to someone else it will no longer be shiny (in 99.9% of cases at least).

That's also how sites like Instacheck worked; find just the right Trainer to give an egg to and you can guarantee it will hatch shiny (for them but not you). Remember that what you're saying goes both ways: If a shiny Egg remains shiny upon hatching, a non-shiny Egg will remain non-Shiny upon hatching.

(Would you like to set up an XY trade sometime and prove it?)

Oh, and BTW, if you're going to spend the time to acquire and hatch five Eggs just to check for shininess (because the Egg's data is set at acquisition time, only the OT is set at hatch time), what's the point of soft resetting?

Was just randomly checking this thread till I saw this and had to comment.

As long as the shiny value of the egg is the same one as the shiny value of the trainer the Pokémon WILL be Shiny... and both of those things NEED to match and it'll only work for said trainer, not someone else!
 
W

Weiss

Guest
If I signed up to that, my biggest problem'd be that I wouldn't be able to use most of my favourite team. It only allows Pokemon that were hatched or caught in Kalos, and I transferred a few over!

Lucky me. :cool:
My poor Shiny Ninetales tho
 
W

Weiss

Guest
Who all added me? Let me know...
For a 6iv shiny eevee with a serious nature that knows curse I trade all legendaries to you.
 
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