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The Sexuality Poll Megathread

What's your Sexual Orientation

  • Kinsey 0 - Fully Straight, Heterosexual

    Votes: 46 22.9%
  • Kinsey 1 - Mostly Straight, 'Heteroflexible'

    Votes: 20 10.0%
  • Kinsey 2 - Bi leaning Straight

    Votes: 22 10.9%
  • Kinsey 3 - Bisexual, 50-50

    Votes: 19 9.5%
  • Kinsey 4 - Bi leaning Gay

    Votes: 6 3.0%
  • Kinsey 5 - Mostly Gay, 'Homoflexible'

    Votes: 13 6.5%
  • Kinsey 6 - Fully Gay, Homosexual

    Votes: 22 10.9%
  • Kinsey X - Asexual

    Votes: 22 10.9%
  • Other (Pan/Demi/Gray-A/Tumblrsexual)

    Votes: 15 7.5%
  • I have no idea/Still figuring it out/Hitler did nothing wrong!

    Votes: 16 8.0%

  • Total voters
    201

Luki

Member
I think it's because some straight or gay people wouldn't date a trans person if they knew they were once a different gender.

They think it makes them gay/straight or something.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
But according to the definition pansexuality shouldn't exclude people of the same sex and gender or/and different sex but same gender.


One thing now I know for sure. Those definitions aren't worth a shit.


The definition of pansexuality is really not this mysterious. Pansexuals may experience attraction to someone else regardless of sex. Bisexuals only experience attraction to the male and female sexes.


In real life, this means that bisexuals and pansexuals are essentially the same. You will only be able to distinguish them if you introduce a hermaphrodite or unfinished transexual.
 

hey look a train!

mercenary, hunter killer
im bi leaning straight but if shit ever hit the fan id choose a girl over a guy no questions asked
 

ThePumu

Opening file: Redemption.exe/
i didnt even know the grapevine was around still....
....but those who do not believe in Red are blasphemers and shall be burned at the stake!
 

Gator

Uncledaddy
ok i just read p5 what is this

pansexual is different from bisexual in that it includes attraction to things which fall outside of the gender binary. whether you define "male" and "female" by genitals or by gender identity is irrelevant; that's up to the individual... but a bisexual person will only have an interest in what they consider to be a male or a female (i suppose that could be something other than male or female so long as they are only interested in two types of thing, but that ain't how people usually define it), whereas a pansexual person may have an interest in someone who is not identified as either. generally speaking, a transman is still a man and a transwoman still a woman, and you do not have to be pansexual to be attracted to them. but there are those who identify and/or appear as neither man nor woman, which would fall outside of the range of bisexual attraction. that is why the term 'pansexual' exists, because as the name implies, someone who is bisexual is only interested in two things, whereas a pansexual is interested in all of the possibilities.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
I would say a rigorous definition of bisexual would be based on phenotypic male and female, not psychological gender.

Whether or not that hot blond is a gender-queer lesbian, she's still a hot blond.
 

ThePumu

Opening file: Redemption.exe/
Jesus is busy landscaping.
 

Ayattar

Banned
Banned
pansexual is different from bisexual in that it includes attraction to things which fall outside of the gender binary. whether you define "male" and "female" by genitals or by gender identity is irrelevant; that's up to the individual... but a bisexual person will only have an interest in what they consider to be a male or a female (i suppose that could be something other than male or female so long as they are only interested in two types of thing, but that ain't how people usually define it), whereas a pansexual person may have an interest in someone who is not identified as either. generally speaking, a transman is still a man and a transwoman still a woman, and you do not have to be pansexual to be attracted to them. but there are those who identify and/or appear as neither man nor woman, which would fall outside of the range of bisexual attraction. that is why the term 'pansexual' exists, because as the name implies, someone who is bisexual is only interested in two things, whereas a pansexual is interested in all of the possibilities.

Fuhrer bless you for enlightening me.
Finally. Someone. Was able. To explain it.
 

hey look a train!

mercenary, hunter killer
Fuhrer bless you for enlightening me.
Finally. Someone. Was able. To explain it.
i'm not entirely sure but i believe fuhrer is a Nazi term for Hitler, but i may be wrong so please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, but why Hitler? oh and yea that clarified pansexual for me too, i thought it meant you were sexually attracted to pans
 

jtrekkie

Feathered
Obsolete stuff removed



Only one thing I know for sure. Holocaust was a lie.

Yeah? You expect me to believe you were in a gay bar hitting up transchicks that day? Whatever. You don't fool me.
 

Ayattar

Banned
Banned
i'm not entirely sure but i believe fuhrer is a Nazi term for Hitler, but i may be wrong so please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, but why Hitler? oh and yea that clarified pansexual for me too, i thought it meant you were sexually attracted to pans

Because of the sexy high-end lederwaren.

Everybody's previous explanations were clear and correct. I have no idea why this was a problem, but there we go.

No. They didn't cover all possibilities.

Yeah? You expect me to believe you were in a gay bar hitting up transchicks that day? Whatever. You don't fool me.

Damn you, and your omniscient Mossad
 
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Kleric

Member
With this discussion in mind:
Though I scored a 4 on the scale, everything outside the gender binary also fits into my sexuality somewhere. My subconscious mind does have its preferences, but overall in who I'd be willing to date and be intimate with, I am Don'tgiveafucksexual (Or otherwise your less self-explanatory word "Pansexual").

So long as you're an awesome person & we mutually want to be together...
I will find you... And I will bang you.
 

Fatchaos

Perkele!
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MaximizedNOVA

YoungClaw The Bright
I am still figuring it out. Its a long, hard, as well as a tight journey I need to make.

And of course. Hitler did nothing wrong. xD
 

Spatel

Well-Known Member
Pansexuality includes gender identity. Homosexuality/bisexuality/heterosexuality includes the biological sex (pre op or post op, depending on orientation). However, it's usually just easiest for someone to say "my boyfriend is a trans man, I'm a homosexual" and most people will agree it makes sense

The problem is that someone can say they're gay, but they're dating a transman, and that's fine.

If someone says they're bisexual, and they're dating a transman (or whatever), they're a "horrible person" for not recognizing people outside the gender binary. It's a double-standard, telling bisexuals to change their label over exceptions but not gays or straights.

I take a different view from Uncle Dis on this, and there is some debate in the community about it.

The other view on the issue is that pansexual is a redundant term. That the difference between bisexuals and pansexuals is a political one, not a biological one. It doesn't take a 'special orientation' to date trans/intersex people. There's nothing on them that's gonna scare away someone who's bi. Some bi people like androgyny and some don't. There's no need to separate that into two orientations. Some straight people like androgyny and some don't. We don't consider those different. Any more different than bears and twinks for instance. It's silly to divide an orientation that already gets very little recognition into smaller groups over this.

I identify as bisexual. I used to say I was pan, and after about a month I got tired of explaining it, and felt a bit pretentious saying it all the time. 99.99% of the time, bisexual covers everything. For the teeny tiny percent of the population the term doesn't cover (because it was invented centuries ago), they're exceptions. I don't need to define myself by them.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
I am still figuring it out.

I've stopped trying. I'm not going to seek sexual partners, so why bother?

The problem is that someone can say they're gay, but they're dating a transman, and that's fine.

If someone says they're bisexual, and they're dating a transman (or whatever), they're a "horrible person" for not recognizing people outside the gender binary. It's a double-standard, telling bisexuals to change their label over exceptions but not gays or straights.

I take a different view from Uncle Dis on this, and there is some debate in the community about it.

The other view on the issue is that pansexual is a redundant term. That the difference between bisexuals and pansexuals is a political one, not a biological one. It doesn't take a 'special orientation' to date trans/intersex people. There's nothing on them that's gonna scare away someone who's bi. Some bi people like androgyny and some don't. There's no need to separate that into two orientations. Some straight people like androgyny and some don't. We don't consider those different. Any more different than bears and twinks for instance. It's silly to divide an orientation that already gets very little recognition into smaller groups over this.

I identify as bisexual. I used to say I was pan, and after about a month I got tired of explaining it, and felt a bit pretentious saying it all the time. 99.99% of the time, bisexual covers everything. For the teeny tiny percent of the population the term doesn't cover (because it was invented centuries ago), they're exceptions. I don't need to define myself by them.


A combination of sex organs, or the knowledge that a convincing sex organ was actually synthetic would put me off. It would be one of the ultimate turn offs for many people.

The difference between a real woman, and a man who resembles a woman because of surgical and chemical intervention, is surely more significant than the difference between a thin hairless man and a fat hairy man.
 
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Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
I....



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I know you don't mean it, but damn, you really need to get a grasp of how you come across when stating your views on something. Regardless of whether or not you meant if, or you're "just being honest" about how you feel, this shit is extremely transphobic and disheartening to hear.



Not being attracted to transexuals is transphobic like being gay is misogynistic. :\

And yes there is a difference between a karyotipic woman and a transsexual; but if I use the word 'karyotype' I may be accused of excluding people from conversation by being 'scientifically elite'.

This doesn't mean either is superior or inferior as a person.
 
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