The south will rise again! South wants secession.

[Hakar Kerarmor]

To those who are just looking at the surface of this and don't really understand the bigger picture here,

i.e. 'people who disagree with me'.

 

[Toboe Moonclaw]

So, let me see if i got the US-Bipartisan stuff right, XVII1931 is libertarian (or outside of the USA: Liberal)? (Which isn't one of the 2 Main parties, meaning that due to the broken (or corrupted if you will) will not get into power in foreseeable future), right?

 

[Attaman]

Are you trying to somehow misrepresent my post as biased or confrontational?

four more years of Obummer, ... the overall fear is perfectly justified ... People see how four more years of out of control spending, a rapidly rising national debt, a government that is hostile to economic growth, sharp tax increases, increasing overregulation, and the peoples' increasing dependency on government will bring about the endgame for our economic stability, our way of life, our freedom, and our very existence as a nation. ... All of Obama’s actions indicate that he and his cronies are statists who are addicted to power and control, ... It is no secret that billionaire globalists like George Soros and others have been trying to force the UN's dictatorial policies on us, ... blatant disregard for the Constitution, shitty economy, crushing taxes and regulation, continuous abuses of federal power, and treason....

Yes. You're very biased. Also, from the look of things, bugfuck nuts. If you think we're currently suffering from "crushing taxes", that you're a constitutional scholar who can see the writing ont he walls, that the government is the reason for economic inequality, that the "Free Market" needs less regulation, "cronies" is the proper way to discuss the people in Washington, etcetera, I'm going to call a duck a duck and a man who needs a nice white coat and padded rooms a man who needs a nice white coat and padded rooms.

 

[thoughtmaster]

Yes. You're very biased. Also, from the look of things, bugfuck nuts. If you think we're currently suffering from "crushing taxes", that you're a constitutional scholar who can see the writing ont he walls, that the government is the reason for economic inequality, that the "Free Market" needs less regulation, "cronies" is the proper way to discuss the people in Washington, etcetera, I'm going to call a duck a duck and a man who needs a nice white coat and padded rooms a man who needs a nice white coat and padded rooms.

Is it your place to deside who is crazy and who isn't? Unless you are able to write out a reasonable, logical responce instead of just saying he is crazy, you have no place to question his opinions. Just because you disagree with what he says, that gives you no right to smear his intelegence or sanity. You can hold your own personal opinions but if you attack someone without proof, it is you who shall end up in hot water

 

[Attaman]

Is it your place to deside who is crazy and who isn't?

One sign of being mentally deranged is, generally, having a very loose (or non-existent) grasp on reality. Looking at what they've posted, I would wager that they fit the bill rather well. Then again, the same could be said for many (not all) people who argue "Freemarket Provides" (I say "many" as a number are merely victims of misinformation and as such were misled to believe stuff like the West Virginia Coal Wars never happened and that FDR prolonged the suffering of the Great Depression), as well as modern politics in general (just hop over to the election thread to see misinformation about what has happened the most recent four years, let alone in general / talking about constitutional matters).

Just because you disagree with what he says, that gives you no right to smear his intelegence or sanity.

Because I disagree with it? No, it does not. Because reality does? Yes.

 

[thoughtmaster]

One sign of being mentally deranged is, generally, having a very loose (or non-existent) grasp on reality. Looking at what they've posted, I would wager that they fit the bill rather well. Then again, the same could be said for many (not all) people who argue "Freemarket Provides" (I say "many" as a number are merely victims of misinformation and as such were misled to believe stuff like the West Virginia Coal Wars never happened and that FDR prolonged the suffering of the Great Depression), as well as modern politics in general (just hop over to the election thread to see misinformation about what has happened the most recent four years, let alone in general / talking about constitutional matters).

Because I disagree with it? No, it does not. Because reality does? Yes.

Yet people dispute it. If it was so obvious, wouldn't you think they would all agree with it? The fact that it is up for discussion means that we don't know if that is true or not. A smart man realizes that for as much we know, there is a much larger amount we don't know, the correct direction for us to take as a species is one of those things we don't know. When there is dispute, there is room for doubt and until that is a unanimous desision (or all of one side is killed) there is a chance that we could be wrong.

 

[Attaman]

Yet people dispute it.

And people dispute that the Earth is round, that the Holocaust occurred, and that Kennedy was killed in a secret Banker conspiracy. That does not make any of these valid theories.

If it was so obvious, wouldn't you think they would all agree with it?

Misinformation is a wonderful thing. It'll allow you to think that the majority of people receiving government benefits are entitled prats, that the West Virginia Coal Wars never happened, that the Industrial Revolution would have lead to a glorious wave of workers' rights if not for that evil government, etcetera.

The fact that it is up for discussion means that we don't know if that is true or not.

We've had "Freemarket Provides" tried out multiple times in the US. Surprisingly, it never did. Sorta how "Tax breaks on the Wealthy w/ burden on lower income brackets will give benefits to us all!" was proven to be blatantly false by a non-partisan congressional study rather recently, and yet for some reason people still believe Trickle Down is the opus magnum of economic theory.

A smart man realizes that for as much we know, there is a much larger amount we don't know, the correct direction for us to take as a species is one of those things we don't know.

And a foolish man turns aside facts because they disagree with his perception of the world. Curiously this is the only way "Freemarket Provides" works. Same applies to the UN taking over the US, the Constitution seemingly being ripped into confetti, "crushing taxes", the supposed "sharp tax increase", etcetera.