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State of the Union Address: Tuesday, Jan. 23, 9pm EST.
/We're all going to get hammered.
State of the Union Address: Tuesday, Jan. 23, 9pm EST.
/We're all going to get hammered.
The State of the Union Drinking Game
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Lobo Roo
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Have a hard time respecting anyone who backs that "Federal Marriage Amendment," I'm afraid my bias there is pretty resolute. Protection of marriage, my ass. Then this bull war, and how many soldiers have been MURDERED, since it's total @#$%? Yeah. Not too fond of this guy.
WelcomeTheCollapse
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LoboRoo said:
*nods* Some people may not know about it. Others may have forgotten about the time. Others may just have to go get drinks.
Hanazawa
Would Like To Play a Game
You don't have to respect someone to acknowledge they're not a moron. I have a lot of disrespect for some very intelligent people. People would be dying in a war whether it was legitimate, bull, or otherwise. And as for the marriage amendment, having a different opinion, even if it's ignorant/"bigoted"/whatever word folks like to use, also does not mean that the person who holds it is stupid.
Hanazawa
Would Like To Play a Game
I have a person I love, and yes, the law would let me marry him if I wanted to, but as it is I'm not currently planning to exercise that right... and I don't really see how that's relevant to any of the points I brought up. I never said I agree with the amendment, just that people who do support it aren't inherently retarded.
Caution_Cat
Sausage Girl
I LOVE ONE TRACK MINDED PEOPLE.
Dude, stfu. :B Srsly.
Dude, stfu. :B Srsly.
Rostam The Grey
Member
I found someone smart enough to not think someone is stupid just because they disagree!!! *points at Hanazawa* Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity! You deserve a cookie!
PS: Marriage to me is the union of a man and a woman. I don't disgree with same sex couples having such a union and having the same legal rights under such a union but I don't think it should be called marriage. Personally, if I was gay, I wouldn't want it to be called marraige either. For 2 reasons, because it implies a religious belief that defies what you truly believe if you are gay (ie: christianity). And also because I would want people to understand what kind of relationship I was in by the name. Thus if I say I'm in a garraige (please pardon the horrible name but I couldn't resist) they know my partner is same sex.
PSS: Yes I know that some gay individuals are christians. My uncle is one of them. But technically speaking the bible says he's going to hell no matter what he believes. I don't personally believe in christianity or hell, and he's a great guy so I hope he's right. But technically... *points at bible*
PS: Marriage to me is the union of a man and a woman. I don't disgree with same sex couples having such a union and having the same legal rights under such a union but I don't think it should be called marriage. Personally, if I was gay, I wouldn't want it to be called marraige either. For 2 reasons, because it implies a religious belief that defies what you truly believe if you are gay (ie: christianity). And also because I would want people to understand what kind of relationship I was in by the name. Thus if I say I'm in a garraige (please pardon the horrible name but I couldn't resist) they know my partner is same sex.
PSS: Yes I know that some gay individuals are christians. My uncle is one of them. But technically speaking the bible says he's going to hell no matter what he believes. I don't personally believe in christianity or hell, and he's a great guy so I hope he's right. But technically... *points at bible*
Turbine_Divinity
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Rostam The Grey said:
The problem is "marriage" as civil legal language. If the law calls it marriage, straight people don't have a right to hoard the word for their own. When the paperwork says "marriage" it's no longer exclusively a religious institution. Leave the word to churches and call all marriages, straight or gay, civil unions when it comes to government papework. Simple!
WelcomeTheCollapse
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Check this out: I timed the amount of clapping during the address. 19m, 31s in 1 hour of footage, from Bush's building entry to exit. XD
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Epsereth
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Rostam The Grey said:
Oh yay look! The same book that says I'm going to hell too for practicing a faith millenia older than it! Now, there's an authority with a track record worth mentioning in the face of this argument, even though you yourself don't believe in it! Thanks for pointing it out, I'm so glad that now I know better!
Now that them there Sodomites and all of us heathens have been reminded of our failure of lifestyle choice, how about we resume discussing the original subject at hand eh wot?
Rostam The Grey
Member
That's great R5K! :lol: I've never read that before. I wonder if it's true? Funny if it is.
SageHusky,
Yes, I'm aware of this, that wasn't the point. I probably should have left christianity out of the picture. My main point was actually why call it a marriage? I personally would want it called something different even if I were gay. The only reason I can see to argue that it should be called a marraige is the point of it. Otherwords, wanting it called marriage because other people don't want it to be called marriage.
Epsereth,
Understood and agreed. Christianity is rather young and has it's issues and failures. But like every religion, it also has it's good points. I used it for the sake of the discussion.
SageHusky,
Yes, I'm aware of this, that wasn't the point. I probably should have left christianity out of the picture. My main point was actually why call it a marriage? I personally would want it called something different even if I were gay. The only reason I can see to argue that it should be called a marraige is the point of it. Otherwords, wanting it called marriage because other people don't want it to be called marriage.
Epsereth,
Understood and agreed. Christianity is rather young and has it's issues and failures. But like every religion, it also has it's good points. I used it for the sake of the discussion.
WelcomeTheCollapse
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I can now check something off my "Things to do before I die" list:
12. Start a flamewar without being involved in the flamewar
12. Start a flamewar without being involved in the flamewar
soundhound
Member
quoted for truth :\Pomander said:
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Epsereth
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Rostam The Grey said:
Deary, I know full well that it has it's good points. But look at what you said. You were just bringing out the most ignorant and least favorable part of it for an ignorant reason. Which, incidentally, I brought up for the sake of discussion.
So pbllth.
FuzzWolf
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Pomander said:
http://www.lectlaw.com/files/leg23.htm
Note the list of names of the people who introduced this law. These are the ones whose idea DOMA was:
BOB BARR (GA)-R
STEVE LARGENT (OK)-R
JIM SENSENBRENNER (WI)-R
SUE MYRICK (NC)-R
ED BRYANT (TN)-R
BILL EMERSON (MO)-R
HAROLD VOLKMER (MO)-D
IKE SKELTON (MO)-D
So its not "DEMOCRATS DEMOCRATS DEMOCRATS DEMOCRATS" its actually "REPUBLICAN REPUBLICAN REPUBLICAN REPUBLICAN REPUBLICAN REPUBLICAN DEMOCRAT DEMOCRAT". So, you fail at math and politics.
Yes, there are some Democrats who oppose gay marriage, but it always has and always will be an overwhelmingly Republican agenda to ban gay marriage.
Fuzzy
Rostam The Grey
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Epsereth said:
Yes! Exactly!