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Fenrari
Prince of Wolves
I can't seem to find it on his FA... Think he'll tell us if we ask nicely?:
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badwolfpuppy
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I am on state benefits called Incapacity Benefit. That means I am disabled and that prevents me from working unless there is a very kind and industrious employer who has the the time and facilities to deal with my disability AND pay me minimum wage x 40 hours (or equivalent in salary or other means of payment of wages in equal amount or more) to support myself completely off the benefit system and maintain my abilities. Also, I am in Britain and 24 which means University education is closed to me now. No grants, no loans, nothing. Works differently from USA education systems - another reason why I fantasise about moving to the USA one day but that fantasy is much more difficult (green card and visas and flight money, etc).
Why am I disabled, might you ask? Short answer: I'm on the Autism spectrum with physical manifestations. giyf
So now I am forced to find something else to do with my life, seeing as employment statistics around my locale are at an all time low and I don't have the funds to move to a city to improve job and support prospects. There you have it. I'm doomed. So forgive me for trying to find some fun in my life and actually Live rather than survive and merely exist.
As for the rest... sure, I sought opinion because until now I have been rolling these marbles around my own mind and figured I had lost more than a few in the process, so I thought of pinching some of yours. It's not like I am asking for charity, I pay my own way well enough and know when something is too much to ask. But a Furry lifestyle? It's not out of my reach or outside my wallet. Just takes some research, deep thoughts and finding things to smile about along the journey. One way or another. I just have to discover the path and enjoy the tomato soup no doubt gathering on my body from the rotten veg you're throwing. *grins*
Don't worry, I have always known these sorts of comments - and previous - will attract some fire, but I've had worse. ;3
Why am I disabled, might you ask? Short answer: I'm on the Autism spectrum with physical manifestations. giyf
So now I am forced to find something else to do with my life, seeing as employment statistics around my locale are at an all time low and I don't have the funds to move to a city to improve job and support prospects. There you have it. I'm doomed. So forgive me for trying to find some fun in my life and actually Live rather than survive and merely exist.
As for the rest... sure, I sought opinion because until now I have been rolling these marbles around my own mind and figured I had lost more than a few in the process, so I thought of pinching some of yours. It's not like I am asking for charity, I pay my own way well enough and know when something is too much to ask. But a Furry lifestyle? It's not out of my reach or outside my wallet. Just takes some research, deep thoughts and finding things to smile about along the journey. One way or another. I just have to discover the path and enjoy the tomato soup no doubt gathering on my body from the rotten veg you're throwing. *grins*
Don't worry, I have always known these sorts of comments - and previous - will attract some fire, but I've had worse. ;3
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Piroshki
Member
Pretty much what everyone else is saying. Furry can be a fun hobby, go ahead and wear your collars or whatever around, but you don't need to make it your life. Whether you like it or not, you ARE a human, so if you don't have anything to look forward to, make something. Apply for jobs at a bunch of places. If you have a friend with a job that's not real high-end, it's usually not too hard to get someone in. Hell, I've gotten 4 of my friends jobs at my store. Then you'll have money to continue your education if you want.
Be a furry at cons and at home and occasionally out in public if you like, but don't go thinking that everything you do has to relate to the fandom. You don't need some sort of exclusive "pack," and you're not gonna make a ton of friends, even within the fandom, if you feel like they need to be part of something like that to be a part of your life.
Oh, and thoughts like this are not as uncommon as you might think. ;P
Be a furry at cons and at home and occasionally out in public if you like, but don't go thinking that everything you do has to relate to the fandom. You don't need some sort of exclusive "pack," and you're not gonna make a ton of friends, even within the fandom, if you feel like they need to be part of something like that to be a part of your life.
Oh, and thoughts like this are not as uncommon as you might think. ;P
Uro
Bringing reality here since 08
Mentova
I live, I die, I live again
Well now this makes a lot more sense.
However, the fact that this is an awful idea still stands. I don't know how things work across the pond for the mentally handicapped but I'm sure you can find some sort of a job that you can enjoy doing and make a living off of. Living off disability checks so you can be a super special yiffy murry furry IRL is not going to be good for you or satisfying. Like, at all. It is a very bad idea.
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Fenrari
Prince of Wolves
Though you'd wonder why he couldn't save his disability checks and use them to get a plain ticket, green card, etc...
General-jwj
Prime Minister of Belgium
I just thought I'd pop in to say this is a tremendously entertaining read. Having acquainted myself with the situation from the previous pages, I have no further comments to add to the OP's original plans that haven't been stated already.
Though I am slightly curious as to what the physical manifestations of autism would be.
Though I am slightly curious as to what the physical manifestations of autism would be.
Stormtail
Member
It's true that the furry fandom is mostly just a hobby, but different people have different levels of connection to it. If you want to center your life around it, that's your choice, but just think about it and don't do anything too crazy. I think you should just do whatever will make you happy. If you think living like this will make you happy, then by all means live this way. But, make sure you've thought about all the options. Also, make sure you don't lose grasp of reality or something. If you want to be furry more than anything else, just don't forget that you're actually human and you live in a world where people react strongly to strange behavior. Take care of your self, make sure you don't do anything to get arrested or killed, and just be happy. Basically, what Ikrit said ^^.
You sound like a Steppenwolf fan, no? You should really read it if not.
Kamatz
Member
@OP I commend you for not flipping a shit at the negative responses. You've got more of a level head than most. Here's what I think, and I hope you consider what I'm saying without rejecting my criticism outright. You did ask for input after all. I could go on for pages and pages, but I'll keep it short and sweet.
You want to have a special connection with someone. Life dealt you a lousy hand, and you want to make the best of it. You also have an interest in the furry fandom. Am I right so far?
This is all great. Everyone wants to be able to connect with other people on a deep and meaningful level. Under bad circumstances everyone will try to make the best of them. And everyone has a hobby or some interest that others would probably find strange.
I understand you have an unusually high level of interest in the whole furry thing, but let me ask you something. Do you think it will make it easier to connect with people if you artificially impose this pack dynamic? Before you tell me that you really do feel like a wolf inside and that it's not artificial, it's who you really are, or some other nonsense, I want to make it clear that you are in fact a human being with very human desires. At some point you will sit down and start thinking to yourself how fake it all seems.
If you manage to find a partner willing to do this, you will never develop your relationship beyond the canned roles you assume when you enter this agreement. Most people find it difficult enough to connect with someone WITHOUT an artificial code of conduct. You're instantly placing a big wall between yourselves.
Want to know what you should do instead? Do whatever it takes to make yourself productive. You want to go to America? Get an education? Save up your disability cash and fucking do it. Find an employer who will pay you to do work that you can manage. Try again even if you fail a hundred times. That's the kind of thing that makes people feel worthwhile. Something with tangible results. When you set a goal for yourself and you finally achieve it, that feels fucking awesome.
And if you're lucky enough to find someone you care about, tell them how you feel. Tell them how much you want to be in a meaningful relationship. With any luck they'll feel the same way. And if not, fuck it, move along. Ditch the escapist fantasies and live your goddamn life.
You want to have a special connection with someone. Life dealt you a lousy hand, and you want to make the best of it. You also have an interest in the furry fandom. Am I right so far?
This is all great. Everyone wants to be able to connect with other people on a deep and meaningful level. Under bad circumstances everyone will try to make the best of them. And everyone has a hobby or some interest that others would probably find strange.
I understand you have an unusually high level of interest in the whole furry thing, but let me ask you something. Do you think it will make it easier to connect with people if you artificially impose this pack dynamic? Before you tell me that you really do feel like a wolf inside and that it's not artificial, it's who you really are, or some other nonsense, I want to make it clear that you are in fact a human being with very human desires. At some point you will sit down and start thinking to yourself how fake it all seems.
If you manage to find a partner willing to do this, you will never develop your relationship beyond the canned roles you assume when you enter this agreement. Most people find it difficult enough to connect with someone WITHOUT an artificial code of conduct. You're instantly placing a big wall between yourselves.
Want to know what you should do instead? Do whatever it takes to make yourself productive. You want to go to America? Get an education? Save up your disability cash and fucking do it. Find an employer who will pay you to do work that you can manage. Try again even if you fail a hundred times. That's the kind of thing that makes people feel worthwhile. Something with tangible results. When you set a goal for yourself and you finally achieve it, that feels fucking awesome.
And if you're lucky enough to find someone you care about, tell them how you feel. Tell them how much you want to be in a meaningful relationship. With any luck they'll feel the same way. And if not, fuck it, move along. Ditch the escapist fantasies and live your goddamn life.
Armaetus
Nazis, Communists and Antifa don't belong on FA
I have Aspergers too and yet I am not using it as a crutch and excuse to not work. I'm pretty sure you could do office or IT work.
badwolfpuppy
New Member
You have hit this on the nail. I want to go to America but I will never personally have the kind of cash it requires to go over there and support myself after getting on the plane. And for a Green Card, you kinda need to apply for work over there first, then they have to shell out tens of thousands of dollars over a tenure and so on... It's not going to happen unless I win the lottery (which is possible since I do buy tickets). There is a certain threshold I can aim for and everything outside is a negative. Basically if it costs more than £500 then I don't have a chance... I am stuck in a significant rut with very clear boundaries.
Yes, I do have Aspergers, but I have one strain of many. I wonder if yours includes symptoms to do with the motors, eyesight, smell, excellent technical ability, progressive degradation, rubbish social aptitude and a tendency to snap at authority? You are lucky to have an employer who holds onto you. I wish I had an employer like that.
I have explored my options for five years onwards now. There isn't much hope for me in the world of commerce and 'normal' civvy street. So I am making a street of my own, whether it is a new design or not. It can't be any worse than what I have been through in the last 24 years.
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Conker
Destroyer of Nazi Teddy Bears
The problem is, your "civvy" street isn't profitable and you'll just continue to leech off of whatever welfare programs you're on, all the while degrading into some furfag fantasy world.
Ricky
Well-Known Member
Pffft- *facepalms*
They really give you disability for that?
All I hear are excuses why you can't do anything. I know many an asspie who has gotten a job.
If you focused all this energy you have on something productive you could make your life better.
In order words, learn to prioritize.
Littlerock
numb with cold
Good golly, miss Mollie. This thread. All of it.
I am sad now. :c
I am sad now. :c
Fenrari
Prince of Wolves
Mentova
I live, I die, I live again
I think manchild is rather appropriate here since he has a pretty childish idea in mind.
Fay V
Lost to this world
In which case he should be living with some sort of parental authority. If you don't have the mentality to flip burgers or stock shelves, you don't have the mentality to live alone. Hell I worked at gamestop and alphabetized the shelves, all day, every day, and it was actually pretty damn fun. I just had to dress nice and know the alphabet.
Mentova
I live, I die, I live again
Personally I think he is capable of getting a job and is just making excuses for his laziness. Of course I do not personally know the man so I could be off but this is just a guess based on his actions in the thread.
it's kind of depressing really.
meowtacles
Member
In all honesty, if that's what you have your heart set on, do what you want. I doubt you'll be able to find a pack, not many people are into that idea, and the ones that are may very well be people you DO NOT want around you all the time. As long as you're not relying on government assistance just so you can live that way ( i mean get the assistance if you ACTUALLY need it, otherwise look for a job, there are plenty out there that anyone can do), and you have a way to support yourself and everyone else does too, then go for it. I do think you'll feel much more fulfilled in life if you had some sort of job, even if you were just doing volunteer work that you enjoyed. I volunteered at a museum just sweeping the floors, greeting visitors, and looking at dinosaurs all day and I LOVED it more than anything. I didn't even want to go there at first, but you'll never know if you'll actually like something unless you try it. Same for you, you may very well end up living out this fantasy of yours, and regret it. But i wish all the best for you, so I hope you find what actually makes you happy eventually.
Wow, this really sucks to hear. I had no idea England's programs for education were so much different than ours. Kind of makes me feel guilty, actually.
But hey, people, if you're stuck in a rut like this, wouldn't you want to roam the streets like some kind of pack of wild animals since there's nothing else to do?
Sounds kind of fun, actually. Just don't get arrested rofl
But hey, people, if you're stuck in a rut like this, wouldn't you want to roam the streets like some kind of pack of wild animals since there's nothing else to do?
Sounds kind of fun, actually. Just don't get arrested rofl