Turning Red

[Baalf]

it's buzz lightyear: humans VS aliens is his entire thing just like any other retro style space man. this is the movie that the toy is based off of so we already know most of what happens based on toy buzz (as well as the TV series) and buzz is supposed to be just your basic space man doing basic space man things.

as for soul,i didn't find it endearing or creative in the least: just pretentious and a very obvious look at how pixar can't do deep and/or philosophical by showing just how shallow they are. like,we're supposed to feel bad for the main character because he never got to be a jazz player and spent years crying about it and when they give us a example of what a "lost soul" looks like,what we get is some dude that hates his job. like,THAT was the what they they could come up with when looking for something that's so soul crushing that you're basically dead. i can think of a MILLION things worse than being stuck in a dead end job or not getting your dreams yet i'm supposed to feel BAD for these people? again,it really shows just how shallow the people at pixar actually are and why they should stick with what they know (colorfully whimsical movies about the secret life of various things) because they're not deep enough to be talking about serious topics like the afterlife,what exactly a soul is or things that can kill you on the inside. that's why i was THRILLED when i saw the trailer for luca: it was pixar returning to proper form where things are colorful,whimsical and are emotional but not trying to be too serious. THAT is what pixar is good at and that's what they should stick to so we can avoid another trainwreck like soul.

anyway,thus ends my rant about the movie soul.XD

Buzz Lightyear had a cartoon series where aliens weren't all inherently bad, so that's not an excuse. And if we already know what his backstory is, then what's the point of the movie? It just seems incredibly cliche coming from Pixar. Even with a lot of their less creative movies, they're usually creative ideas. I just don't see it in Lightyear. Typical Spaceman, typical humans versus Aliens plot with a typical animal sidekick that just about every animated movie seems to have.

Apparently, Soul is Mr. Enter's favorite animated movie of all time.

 

[QueenSekhmet]

Buzz Lightyear had a cartoon series where aliens weren't all inherently bad, so that's not an excuse. And if we already know what his backstory is, then what's the point of the movie? It just seems incredibly cliche coming from Pixar. Even with a lot of their less creative movies, they're usually creative ideas. I just don't see it in Lightyear. Typical Spaceman, typical humans versus Aliens plot with a typical animal sidekick that just about every animated movie seems to have.

Apparently, Soul is Mr. Enter's favorite animated movie of all time.

but this movie takes place long before the events of the series so it can be assumed that aliens didn't start making contact until later on. also to be fair,this is a humans VS evil space robots movie since zurg's entire army is made up of robots (and zurg,himself may be a robot). and the point of the movie is to show us movie buzz's origins rather than what little we get from toy buzz and as well as showing the stuff that lead to the TV series. keep in mind that this is the movie that andy saw that made him want a buzz lightyear in the first place (and that is straight up how it was pitched to the studio) so we're seeing what he did way back when. also keep in mind that the entire point of buzz lightyear is to just be a good action figure so he's simple by design the same way woody was just a basic cowboy in woody's roundup. just sit back and enjoy watching a non-toy buzz lightyear do campy,sci-fi buzz lightyear things.

and i don't know who mr.enter is but he's got shit taste in movies if soul is his favorite.

 

[Baalf]

but this movie takes place long before the events of the series so it can be assumed that aliens didn't start making contact until later on. also to be fair,this is a humans VS evil space robots movie since zurg's entire army is made up of robots (and zurg,himself may be a robot). and the point of the movie is to show us movie buzz's origins rather than what little we get from toy buzz and as well as showing the stuff that lead to the TV series. keep in mind that this is the movie that andy saw that made him want a buzz lightyear in the first place (and that is straight up how it was pitched to the studio) so we're seeing what he did way back when. also keep in mind that the entire point of buzz lightyear is to just be a good action figure so he's simple by design the same way woody was just a basic cowboy in woody's roundup. just sit back and enjoy watching a non-toy buzz lightyear do campy,sci-fi buzz lightyear things.

and i don't know who mr.enter is but he's got shit taste in movies if soul is his favorite.

All in all, I just really don't care about his backstory, especially if it's not going to do anything new to what what is an incredibly tired cliche.

 

[QueenSekhmet]

All in all, I just really don't care about his backstory, especially if it's not going to do anything new to what what is an incredibly tired cliche.

then you might want to skip this one because cliche in the entire point of buzz lightyear both as a buzz lightyear character and a toy story character: he's a hotshot space man fighting robots and star wars rip-offs and that's it.

 

[Baalf]

then you might want to skip this one because cliche in the entire point of buzz lightyear both as a buzz lightyear character and a toy story character: he's a hotshot space man fighting robots and star wars rip-offs and that's it.

... complete with a talking animal sidekick.

I just don't get why people s t r i v e for being cliche.

 

[QueenSekhmet]

... complete with a talking animal sidekick.

I just don't get why people s t r i v e for being cliche.

to be fair,it's a talking robot sidekick.

and because it works. not everything has to be a grand innovation: sometimes it's nice to just have a simple story with easy to understand characters. movies are supposed to entertainment,not collage essays on complex storytelling so there is nothing wrong with using cliches so long as it's still enjoyable to watch.

 

[Baalf]

to be fair,it's a talking robot sidekick.

and because it works. not everything has to be a grand innovation: sometimes it's nice to just have a simple story with easy to understand characters. movies are supposed to entertainment,not collage essays on complex storytelling so there is nothing wrong with using cliches so long as it's still enjoyable to watch.

My problem is particular cliches. I don't mind stuff that's been done before, but when something has been milked as dry as "Humans vs inherently bad aliens" it gets monotonous. I'm not asking for never been done Concepts, but do SOMETHING different.

Also, as far as the talking animal sidekick goes, they're usually my favorite part of that I otherwise don't like that much, but it doesn't stop the fact that almost every animated movie has one. It almost feels like a requirement for animated movies to have at least one non-human protagonist, which I don't mind so much. It's more of an observation than anything else, but still. That being said, a robot cat is not the most inventive thing ever. I sorta get why it's a cat and they want a familiar pet animal, but still.

 

[QueenSekhmet]

My problem is particular cliches. I don't mind stuff that's been done before, but when something has been milked as dry as "Humans vs inherently bad aliens" it gets monotonous. I'm not asking for never been done Concepts, but do SOMETHING different.

Also, as far as the talking animal sidekick goes, they're usually my favorite part of that I otherwise don't like that much, but it doesn't stop the fact that almost every animated movie has one. It almost feels like a requirement for animated movies to have at least one non-human protagonist, which I don't mind so much. It's more of an observation than anything else, but still. That being said, a robot cat is not the most inventive thing ever. I sorta get why it's a cat and they want a familiar pet animal, but still.

honesty,pixar reinvented animation as we knew it back in the 90's with toy story so i think they've earned the right to use whatever cliche they so choose as much as walt disney earned the right to use whatever cliche HE chose by creating the first ever animated movie with snow white.

 

[Baalf]

honesty,pixar reinvented animation as we knew it back in the 90's with toy story so i think they've earned the right to use whatever cliche they so choose as much as walt disney earned the right to use whatever cliche HE chose by creating the first ever animated movie with snow white.

Well, I'm sorry, but I'm not interested. I've seen Buzz's story in other forms. I don't want to see it again.

 

[QueenSekhmet]

Well, I'm sorry, but I'm not interested. I've seen Buzz's story in other forms. I don't want to see it again.

*shrugs* then don't? but don't be calling it a bad movie,though without even giving it a chance.

 

[Baalf]

*shrugs* then don't? but don't be calling it a bad movie,though without even giving it a chance.

I've seen enough information on the movie to know that I do not need to see the movie to know that there is no way I could possibly like it. It's going to be a rehashed plot that I've seen a million times with characters that the writers will desperately try to get you to care about despite the fact that they are human-sues. Pretty much every single creature surrounding the generic human characters exist just to kill and be killed by them. It is going to be the most shallow and cliche representation of outer space possible, and because the world is written in such a shallow and narcissistic way, it will make the human characters impossible for me to care about. And from what I have seen, no. That is absolutely the depth of outer space in the movie. They could actually write a more interesting universe, and have aliens that are more than just target practice for humans, but "that's not the point of the movie." According to what you've said, the point of the movie IS to be shallow and uninspired.

Even if they added as much depth to the humans as possible, I don't care about fictional humans that I've seen a million times before. Not even the talking cat interests me. It's your typical comic relief character that, while it's not the worst case of it, is still another example of this movie not trying anything new. And because it's a robot, it's not even a living creature, so it doesn't detract from the main characters being human-sues.

And you know what? It's probably going to win animated movie of the year, because this seems to be the kind of stuff people love these days.

 

[QueenSekhmet]

I've seen enough information on the movie to know that I do not need to see the movie to know that there is no way I could possibly like it. It's going to be a rehashed plot that I've seen a million times with characters that the writers will desperately try to get you to care about despite the fact that they are human-sues. Pretty much every single creature surrounding the generic human characters exist just to kill and be killed by them. It is going to be the most shallow and cliche representation of outer space possible, and because the world is written in such a shallow and narcissistic way, it will make the human characters impossible for me to care about. And from what I have seen, no. That is absolutely the depth of outer space in the movie. They could actually write a more interesting universe, and have aliens that are more than just target practice for humans, but "that's not the point of the movie." According to what you've said, the point of the movie IS to be shallow and uninspired.

Even if they added as much depth to the humans as possible, I don't care about fictional humans that I've seen a million times before. Not even the talking cat interests me. It's your typical comic relief character that, while it's not the worst case of it, is still another example of this movie not trying anything new. And because it's a robot, it's not even a living creature, so it doesn't detract from the main characters being human-sues.

And you know what? It's probably going to win animated movie of the year, because this seems to be the kind of stuff people love these days.

dude,it's buzz fucking lightyear. relax.

 

[Baalf]

dude,it's buzz fucking lightyear. relax.

Just saying.

And frankly, even if I was into that kind of stuff, I've been seeing some "meh" opinions of it.

 

[a sleepy kitty]

I'm watching it right now for the first time ever. I love it!

 

[Alyxx the Rat]

I think it qualifies as furry. Specifically red panda furry but still.

Loved the movie.

Looks hella overrated. Do Furries flock to ANYTHING anthro like braindead moths to a light?

Might just not have been for you then. I thought it was really well written and I loved the animation.