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Ugly people don't completely exist.

Randy-Darkshade

Bike riding squirrel thing.
It's true, they don't.

Person A walks along and sees person B, person A thinks person B is ugly, then person C comes along and thinks person B isn't ugly. Just because one person sees another as ugly, doesn't mean the next person will see the same.

Also beauty magazines don't help, they fill girls heads full of bullshit, telling them "You should be doing bl;ahblah to look good for men cause this is what men want" bullshit, I want a real woman, not one with more colour on her face than a pack of crayola crayons, or fake pointy boobs, or surgery to keep their face looking young, I want real women. I think the only reason some girls feel ugly is because of these girly magazines driling it into their heads that they are.
 

Rakuen Growlithe

Banned
Banned
That means whether a person is ugly or not is subjective, not that ugly people don't exist. You just have to specify for whom the statement that someone is ugly is true.
 

Schwimmwagen

Well-Known Member
Funny. I'm person B. Everyone in my school was person A, and some from here are person C.

Makes me happy. But thanks to years of treatment from A, I struggle to believe C sometimes.
 

Volkodav

Dad****er
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Same with people who are handicapped and whatnot. Someone will always find them sexually attractive.


like, you certainly can sit and cry and mope over someone on TV with a disability, but if you take the time to think about it, someone is probably jacking off to something about them right now lmfao
people are so weird
there are people who have a sexual attraction to TREES FOR FUCK SAKES
TREES!!
 

Randy-Darkshade

Bike riding squirrel thing.
Funny. I'm person B. Everyone in my school was person A, and some from here are person C.

Makes me happy. But thanks to years of treatment from A, I struggle to believe C sometimes.

I wouldn't mind betting half of those in high school only said it so that could feel part of the "group". I have noticed with a lot of kids, especially kids of today they seem to have like a "pack" mentality, they hang out in large groups and when one starts saying nasty crap about someone they all join in. I wouldn't take any notice of what was said in school.

My ex had [psoriasis, she was over weight and had a serious heart condition treated with pills, yet I still felt attracted to her, that includes sexually. I seem to have the ability to look past a persons physical imperfections. Then again I don't look for perfection.
 

Schwimmwagen

Well-Known Member
My ex had [psoriasis, she was over weight and had a serious heart condition treated with pills, yet I still felt attracted to her, that includes sexually. I seem to have the ability to look past a persons physical imperfections. Then again I don't look for perfection.

Aye, people have preferences for every kind of thing. It's just "uber attractive man/woman" that the media always goes for, no matter what it is. I personally, cannot stand "hot" girls. Back in high school, there were tons of them that looked too good, to the point they needed a slap. The middle ground is always the best, I feel.
 

Bambi

Member
It's true, they don't.

Person A walks along and sees person B, person A thinks person B is ugly, then person C comes along and thinks person B isn't ugly. Just because one person sees another as ugly, doesn't mean the next person will see the same.

Also beauty magazines don't help, they fill girls heads full of bullshit, telling them "You should be doing bl;ahblah to look good for men cause this is what men want" bullshit, I want a real woman, not one with more colour on her face than a pack of crayola crayons, or fake pointy boobs, or surgery to keep their face looking young, I want real women. I think the only reason some girls feel ugly is because of these girly magazines driling it into their heads that they are.
Unbeknownst to most men, we face the same perils, too.

Right now you have some people out there who think that masculinity and manhood is under siege, and so the war, they perceive, is one about controlling the spirituality of men. Looks, work ethic, and basic physique appear to dominate that concept of "spirituality", while the concern that gender roles are being blurred, thus appearing to eliminate the necessity of the provider male archetype, is another focus. While they might be right that our gender roles are being blurred, it's frequently for the right reasons. For example, instead of the idea that men cannot be separate of the typical, post-world war two era conflation of how tribal, Caucasians used to live back in the day, we've now come to embrace that all genders and sexual orientations are capable of accomplishing the same level of success, and if not, should be able to do so. And so the meme continues with some of these worry wort's, that if you're ugly, if you're not economically successful, or rippling full of muscles, or some anti-social, counter-culturalist asshat, you're a part of the problem that contributes to that level of "distortion", and thus a threat.

What really bothers me is how even the manly men of our society reject people who happen not to be physically perfect. Men hate body hair now, because they're dead set on reliving their lost middle school or high-school years while at the age of like, fucking fifty. We're taught now as men that if we're not as superficial as the egos on UFC, or the cover of a fitness magazine, we're not men. Fortunately most people don't follow that model, but the fear of actually being something other than the status quotient is continually reinforced at almost every level. I'd hesitate to say I'm a Person C who isn't always aware of when he's acting like Person A, or that he's the victim of want and need, like person B.

And I'll admit where I am superficial. I'll see someone whose not dressed like me and wonder, "Why's that?" I'll make the effort to understand them and I genuinely like to. However it's still a matter in my mind. I'll shallowly think how will others see me if I am with this person? I'll see someone whose not my version of "attractive", and the same problem rears it's head. I'll force the effort to correct that belief if it's not a natural one, and I genuinely like what turns out. An argument to genetics notwithstanding, the thing that brought me to knowing where I was flawed was a study about how racial divides are actually a matter of kin selection theory, and that we tend to preference members of the same race out of an inherent need to preserve "us" versus "them".

While not widely popular, it just reminded me about how false I can be sometimes, especially as it concerns "ugly" versus "pretty".
 
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Neuron

Member
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Same with people who are handicapped and whatnot. Someone will always find them sexually attractive.


like, you certainly can sit and cry and mope over someone on TV with a disability, but if you take the time to think about it, someone is probably jacking off to something about them right now lmfao
people are so weird
My boyfriend is disabled and has an obvious gimp in his walk, one time we were at Barnes and Noble and he goes outside to smoke a cigarette. This lady that's sitting across from me (you know the chick he just kissed before leaving to go outside) goes outside and she apparently gives him her number and it says call me. He laughed, chucked it, came inside and told me, then he made me crack up by commenting that she must have a "cripple fetish"

Anyway I get the feeling he's often Person B. I'm aware that people don't find him the most attractive man sometimes but I've never been one to care about that sort of thing. I believe my sister always comments that I like "weird looking dudes"

But congratulations on finding out the world is subjective to attractiveness I guess?
 

Randy-Darkshade

Bike riding squirrel thing.

Sarcastic Coffeecup

Hand. Cannot. Erase.

Ricky

Well-Known Member
General consensus is a tautology. It's just consensus.

Actually, I did that on purpose to make my point more explicit but thanks for the pedantry :roll:

Thing is, what is considered hot these days is all fake anyway.

What do you mean by fake? Like... fake boobs?

If you mean superficial then okay, I guess I can see that.

If you're talking about looks I'm wondering what it is you consider fake.
 

Neuron

Member
Actually, I did that on purpose to make my point more explicit but thanks for the pedantry :roll:



What do you mean by fake? Like... fake boobs?

If you mean superficial then okay, I guess I can see that.

If you're talking about looks I'm wondering what it is you consider fake.
The thing is people are attracted to different things.

This thread is pointless anyway.
 

Ricky

Well-Known Member
The thing is people are attracted to different things.

Well yeah, but the title of the thread and OP state that there is no such thing as an ugly person. I don't think every single person needs to agree for it to be the case. Generally with subjective claims such as this there is a trend that sets a standard and that standard is what people adhere to in everyday speech (and this is really a semantic debate in the first place).

So, I would disagree with that claim. Lots of things could be said to be subjective:

Murder is wrong.
Septic tanks smells bad.
This thread is pointless.

There are obvious answers to all of those

Poor woman. Fell out of her horse's saddle in the Forest of Ugly and hit every tree, rock and bush as she got dragged out.

It's not much comfort to her I'm sure, but she makes me feel better about my own status :p

Actually, she has a disease where she can't put on any bodyweight at all. She has to eat constantly just to stay alive and she still looks like that despite her efforts.

It's pretty sad, but I'm a dick and it's the first thing that came to mind when thinking of an example.
 
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Dragonfurry

(•_•)(•_•)>⌐■-■(⌐■_■)
Well for me looks count for only like 5 percent of the relationship. I have to see whats inside of them before I make any decisions. Some people when I had my first serious relationship said she was ugly. I told them to fuck off and I told them she had a beautiful personality.
 

Aidy

they call me yolo swaggins
looks like the elves in skyrim and i bet people j.o to those

just go on TESNexus, there's plenty of adult mods for oblivion and i'm sure there's some for skyrim, it's fucking weird man

Anyway on topic, I agree, almost all the people in my school rated people on how they looked, then if they didn't look good in their opinion they got bullied for a long long time, I felt really sorry for them. I didn't get bullied because of my looks, though rather because I could use intelligence to fight my fights against their stupidity. Whatever, I just find it a shame that some people nowadays base everything they think about a person on their looks. Fucking disgusting I think but what can I do, I just try to make friends with anyone really.
 

Ad Hoc

THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
Same with people who are handicapped and whatnot. Someone will always find them sexually attractive.
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like, you certainly can sit and cry and mope over someone on TV with a disability, but if you take the time to think about it, someone is probably jacking off to something about them right now lmfao
That is a terribad basis for a relationship though. :( Most people with disability fetishes are into it because of the perceived helplessness, so it's just sort of like, thanks jackass. Compare it to tranny chasers--yeah someone likes you but it's for fairly demeaning reasons. (Most folks have a pretty good sense of humor about it, though.)


@OP
Yeah beauty's pretty much subjective. Good job eh.
 

Lunar

Son of a WHORE!
there are people who have a sexual attraction to TREES FOR FUCK SAKES
TREES!!

Would you believe that there are also people with a sexual attraction to bipedal, humanoid animals?
NO WAY.
 
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