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Main Site UK Porn Filter Goes Into Effect July 15

2ndVenus

SnakeWildlife
www.bbc.co.uk: Digital minister 'sorry' for porn age checks delay
Users were incorrectly warned that deliberate attempts to access imgur would constitute a criminal offense; virgin media's notice warned users that their 'friends and family' might abandon them and that if they had children they would be 'taken into care,'.
Its sad but true, im glad i got a VPN. What's going on in the UK i would compare to somebody going completely insane.
ISP's in the UK if they see you go on a single site they dont like (even if you were linked there or went there by mistake or from a random google-search), they pass the info onto the police and next thing you know theyre knocking at your door and conviscate all technology in the house. The state of the internet in the UK truly has become so monitored and invasive its bluddy terrifying to use it.

People share artwork and non-illegal content all the time on imgur, so basically what these loonies are saying is, EVERYONE is a criminal who touches that site, even though illegal content posted on imgur, probably constitutes less than 0.001% of the total content on that site.

That one google search you did of Jake Long furry art. BOOM your a criminal, FBI open up.
That furaffinity website you go on. BOOM youre a criminal. (its undecided if FA is included yet)
You used imgur?. BOOM youre a criminal.
That 1000+ user Telegram channel youre apart of that shares Gay Yiff animated Gifs? BOOM youre a criminal.
Someone sent you a short-link which takes you to one picture on Inkbunny that did NOT feature cub art. BOOM youre a criminal, you still went onto a site that contains such material even tho you couldnt see the link.
No matter how much you stick to LEGAL content, they'll still report you and put you under constant criminal investigation, no that is not an exaggeration, it's actually happening and i already have one friend being falsely accused.

I cant stand living in my own country now because im in constant fear of every single LEGAL webpage i go on still being a risk to my actual life. I didnt want a VPN but i was left with no choice. Being a furry is super high risk.

This entire thing theyre doing isnt just over-the-top, its psychotic amounts of wrong. We are losing our Freedom, completely. 100% its gone.

In my mind theres 2 options,
1. Get a VPN (wont be long until these too face changes to the law which messes up VPNs)
2. Switch the internet off...turn it aaaall off.
 
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I will use an example, a large Argos facility in the UK (its like a callcenter for a major UK company, which is like Walmart/Toys-R-us combined) used Windows XP, all computers had no protection, had no updates given to them, all had internet access, all machines were accessible allowing any staff member to access USB ports and disc drives, a vastly out of date version of the Sage software was being used which has no proper data encryption, no data was safe and staff members had easy ability to collect any amount of customer bank accounts (and their full accessing info) and leave the building with zero security staff checking the front door, the front door did not require a keycard or passcode. There is one receptionist, but any member of the public had the ability to walk into this 10story building, the receptionist would easily presume they are a worker; they can sit down at any machine, and do as they please without a supervisor noticing.
After the security inspection, the company did not review its security and continued as normal. After 1 year, no changes were made.
Wow, is that even legal?

In my mind theres 2 options,
1. Get a VPN (wont be long until these too face changes to the law which messes up VPNs)
2. Switch the internet off...turn it aaaall off.
3. Use TOR.
 

Michele

Member
The UK thing and filter sounds like an stupid thing.

To be honest, nothing will genuinely happen. Even if you visit porn websites or see mature content on FA, nothing will happen because you're using an different laptop (usually your own, not the work computer).

How can inspecting other 'online ID' be possible in UK? And how would bosses on work companies be able to know whenever you went to adult websites or not?

I do not believe that. I remember GDPR thing happening last year, and nothing happened yet. I doubt it will cause any impact with this law too.
 

Narri

Will fly you around for hugs and pats
Pretty much how it's going though. Eventually nothing even somewhat critical will make it past the censor
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Its sad but true, im glad i got a VPN. What's going on in the UK i would compare to somebody going completely insane.
ISP's in the UK if they see you go on a single site they dont like (even if you were linked there or went there by mistake or from a random google-search), they pass the info onto the police and next thing you know theyre knocking at your door and conviscate all technology in the house. The state of the internet in the UK truly has become so monitored and invasive its bluddy terrifying to use it.

People share artwork and non-illegal content all the time on imgur, so basically what these loonies are saying is, EVERYONE is a criminal who touches that site, even though illegal content posted on imgur, probably constitutes less than 0.001% of the total content on that site.

That one google search you did of Jake Long furry art. BOOM your a criminal, FBI open up.
That furaffinity website you go on. BOOM youre a criminal. (its undecided if FA is included yet)
You used imgur?. BOOM youre a criminal.
That 1000+ user Telegram channel youre apart of that shares Gay Yiff animated Gifs? BOOM youre a criminal.
Someone sent you a short-link which takes you to one picture on Inkbunny that did NOT feature cub art. BOOM youre a criminal, you still went onto a site that contains such material even tho you couldnt see the link.
No matter how much you stick to LEGAL content, they'll still report you and put you under constant criminal investigation, no that is not an exaggeration, it's actually happening and i already have one friend being falsely accused.

I cant stand living in my own country now because im in constant fear of every single LEGAL webpage i go on still being a risk to my actual life. I didnt want a VPN but i was left with no choice. Being a furry is super high risk.

This entire thing theyre doing isnt just over-the-top, its psychotic amounts of wrong. We are losing our Freedom, completely. 100% its gone.

In my mind theres 2 options,
1. Get a VPN (wont be long until these too face changes to the law which messes up VPNs)
2. Switch the internet off...turn it aaaall off.


For the record the Blocking of IMGUR was an error. There was never any actual risk that the police would come round to the houses of people who attempted to access that site.

The idea that ISPs would refer users to the police if they attempt to access websites that have legitimately been flagged as child pornography by the IWF is actually thoroughly reasonable.

Article 13 seriously needs abolition. To all my friends in Europe, continue to fight.

The legislation being discussed in this thread is not Article 13.
We are discussing the digital economy act of 2017, which is a British act that does not apply to any other European countries.

The UK thing and filter sounds like an stupid thing.

To be honest, nothing will genuinely happen. Even if you visit porn websites or see mature content on FA, nothing will happen because you're using an different laptop (usually your own, not the work computer).

How can inspecting other 'online ID' be possible in UK? And how would bosses on work companies be able to know whenever you went to adult websites or not?

I do not believe that. I remember GDPR thing happening last year, and nothing happened yet. I doubt it will cause any impact with this law too.

I think you've mis-understood what the proposed policy entails.

Under the new rules, websites that host more than 30% pornographic content will be expected to prevent users from accessing this content unless they have verified their age.
Websites that do not comply with this expectation will be blocked at the ISP level.

There's some fundamentally reasonable aspects of this, but also some fundamentally unreasonable aspects; for example lending a boon to fraudulent websites that seek to trick British adults into handing over their personal identification details.
 
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Its sad but true, im glad i got a VPN. What's going on in the UK i would compare to somebody going completely insane.
ISP's in the UK if they see you go on a single site they dont like (even if you were linked there or went there by mistake or from a random google-search), they pass the info onto the police and next thing you know theyre knocking at your door and conviscate all technology in the house. The state of the internet in the UK truly has become so monitored and invasive its bluddy terrifying to use it.

People share artwork and non-illegal content all the time on imgur, so basically what these loonies are saying is, EVERYONE is a criminal who touches that site, even though illegal content posted on imgur, probably constitutes less than 0.001% of the total content on that site.

That one google search you did of Jake Long furry art. BOOM your a criminal, FBI open up.
That furaffinity website you go on. BOOM youre a criminal. (its undecided if FA is included yet)
You used imgur?. BOOM youre a criminal.
That 1000+ user Telegram channel youre apart of that shares Gay Yiff animated Gifs? BOOM youre a criminal.
Someone sent you a short-link which takes you to one picture on Inkbunny that did NOT feature cub art. BOOM youre a criminal, you still went onto a site that contains such material even tho you couldnt see the link.
No matter how much you stick to LEGAL content, they'll still report you and put you under constant criminal investigation, no that is not an exaggeration, it's actually happening and i already have one friend being falsely accused.

I cant stand living in my own country now because im in constant fear of every single LEGAL webpage i go on still being a risk to my actual life. I didnt want a VPN but i was left with no choice. Being a furry is super high risk.

This entire thing theyre doing isnt just over-the-top, its psychotic amounts of wrong. We are losing our Freedom, completely. 100% its gone.

In my mind theres 2 options,
1. Get a VPN (wont be long until these too face changes to the law which messes up VPNs)
2. Switch the internet off...turn it aaaall off.
Um, what? You're just ranting and raving, right?
Is this person accurate, @Fallowfox ? Or are they just exaggerating?
 

Slytherin Umbreon

Black Lives Matter
I am surprised that they don't have a line of code that automatically prevents blocks of the top 50 most visited websites and refers them to a human for manual checking, to prevent silly situations like this.
Or maybe they do and it wasn't written correctly, or somebody pushed the wrong button.
Or maybe the person who reviewed it just really hates imgur for some reason.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
I hate to be a pest, but were you being sarcastic or truthful when I asked you if 2ndVenus was exaggerating or not?

Truthful. There are genuine criticisms of the United Kingdom's digital policies to be made, but the criticisms that 2ndVenus made aren't credible;
users who access a web domain without knowing that it hosts illegal images, and who don't view those images, haven't automatically committed a crime for example.
 
Truthful. There are genuine criticisms of the United Kingdom's digital policies to be made, but the criticisms that 2ndVenus made aren't credible;
users who access a web domain without knowing that it hosts illegal images, and who don't view those images, haven't automatically committed a crime for example.
Oh. Yeah, I know about how much the UK sucks with their digital policy, but I was really wondering if they were actually making it illegal to view furry and/or gay pornography, or criminalizing websites like FA. Because in today's landscape, nothing surprises me anymore...
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Oh. Yeah, I know about how much the UK sucks with their digital policy, but I was really wondering if they were actually making it illegal to view furry and/or gay pornography, or criminalizing websites like FA. Because in today's landscape, nothing surprises me anymore...

No. I am confused that you would think this.
 

2ndVenus

SnakeWildlife
the criticisms that 2ndVenus made aren't credible;
users who access a web domain without knowing that it hosts illegal images, and who don't view those images, haven't automatically committed a crime for example.

Your risk, not mine. Government is only just starting to understand what the internet is yet (only took 24 years), and obviously have no clue how to manage it.

They only understand 1's and 0's.

Lets use an example (these answers are not mine):
Did you click on a link that took you to Inkbunny? 'Yes'
Does Inkbunny contain content related to chiId pornography? 'Yes'
Say hello to mr Criminal Record. There's no "Ifs", or "buts", or "i didnt mean it"s.

The computer says 1
 
Your risk, not mine. Government is only just starting to understand what the internet is yet (only took 24 years), and obviously have no clue how to manage it.

They only understand 1's and 0's.

Lets use an example (these answers are not mine):
Did you click on a link that took you to Inkbunny? 'Yes'
Does Inkbunny contain content related to chiId pornography? 'Yes'
Say hello to mr Criminal Record. There's no "Ifs", or "buts", or "i didnt mean it"s.

The computer says 1
Please stop exaggerating. I suffer from SEVERE anxiety.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Your risk, not mine. Government is only just starting to understand what the internet is yet (only took 24 years), and obviously have no clue how to manage it.

They only understand 1's and 0's.

Lets use an example (these answers are not mine):
Did you click on a link that took you to Inkbunny? 'Yes'
Does Inkbunny contain content related to chiId pornography? 'Yes'
Say hello to mr Criminal Record. There's no "Ifs", or "buts", or "i didnt mean it"s.

The computer says 1

When we voice concerns that aren't credible it makes us look paranoid, giving other British people a reason to dismiss our concerns an carry on with their days.
We need them to agree with us if we're going to successfully push for policies to be adapted.
 

dogryme6

Duality Fluff Dragon
Well I don't live in the UK but it's probably affecting other internet-using countries as well so
*Pumps fist into the sky* ANARCHY!
If any site ever asked me for a photo ID I'd just have a picture taken of me... While wearing a Guy Fawkes mask. Ha, got em.

Also I don't use a VPN in the USA and I've gone to all sorts of weird places as you'll soon see. FurAffinity is FULL of senselessly vulgar and raunchy pornography and fetish artworks, DA is more tame than that in terms of the furry stuff but there's a lot of hyoomins... Meh. I've been learning a lot of interesting things too, so if ISPs or the law took issue with what I was browsing I'd have gotten a message about it long ago or got detained once by now. But I haven't.
Unfortunately whereas UK has the sin of Censorship, the US has the sin of rampant Commercialism and Consumerism. Just because I'm not breaking the law doesn't mean they probably aren't $haring and $elling information. So that's something I should probably be worrying about more.
I guess I SHOULD get a VPN? If only to deny those guys the pleasure of a sellable resource. But besides that, there's not much else I want to say on my own.

That doesn't sound right but maybe the UK doesn't know about inflation, vore and those things.
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And I know about Inflation, keeh heeh heeh.
*Dances to it*
Pretty much how it's going though. Eventually nothing even somewhat critical will make it past the censor
I should watch that movie. I love what I see.
 
Okay, I just thought of something. For websites that don't have enough NSFW content to require the age verification gates in the UK, will they be expected to eliminate all adult content since they're not considered a "pornography site" by the UK?
 

Dragoneer

Site Developer
Staff member
Site Director
Okay, I just thought of something. For websites that don't have enough NSFW content to require the age verification gates in the UK, will they be expected to eliminate all adult content since they're not considered a "pornography site" by the UK?
Nobody really knows. Vague laws and policies don't give websites enough guidance to be able to make decisions ahead of time.
 
Nobody really knows. Vague laws and policies don't give websites enough guidance to be able to make decisions ahead of time.
So.... What would happen if FA was put in the situation I described? Would the site have to pull a Tumblr and delete all mature and adult content for the site, or geoblock the UK? Or just block all mature and adult content over in the UK? What does this mean for me in the US?
The reason why I bring this up is because of the Online Harms White Paper...
 
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