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Inpw

Roller Coaster Imagineer.
There is a difference between a good Guitarist and a good Musician.

a Good Guitarist can quickly pick up and play something Slash, Van Halen or Jimi Hendrix wrote.
a Good Musician can create original music of the same or better quality Slash, Van Halen or Jimi Hendrix wrote.

A song doesn't need to be exceptionally complex for it to be a great musical piece. I like complex music here and there but it's the simple ones that really spark because it's simple but still brilliant. This is actually the harder thing to achieve.
 

sniperfreak223

More Metal Than You !!!
I know that, I'm a rabid Dime fan, and he openly admitted to knowing very little about theory, but he had a soul and a passion that just oozed from his instrument, I mean c'mon, "Walk" was basically a one note riff (an open D with some full-note bends), but it was still powerful as all hell (super chill dude too, I met him once in 2004, and even as a little piss-ant 15-year old kid, he still made time for me, and even signed some shit for me..but now he's gone and I am sad :( ) , but when you have a musician that does one thing well and just milks it all the time (Kirk Hammett,Angus Young, and the like) it just irks me a bit.

And I understand the shortcomings, I don't even consider myself a very good musician, I can write solid leads but I can never be satisfied with my rhythm chops.I wish I could write as well as some people do, but unless I'm either REALLY pissed off or depressed I can't muster the necessary emotion to pull it off.

So, I guess in all honesty, the difference between "good" and "great" truly comes down to the soul of the player...and you will never know if you have that soul if you never try.

and totally to go off on a whole 'nother level, I hate people who consider DJ's as musicians.

okay, rant over.
 
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Kitsune Cross

**** that **** now! Bitch
That's ridiculous. Just because someone can't play a guitar doesn't mean that they don't know what a good guitarist sounds like.

It is not, sure you can say, hey this sound nice, but you don't really know why because if you don't know about music who can't totally apreciate what the guitarist is doing, or why.

and totally to go off on a whole 'nother level, I hate people who consider DJ's as musicians.

Anyone who can make music, with whatever it is, is a musician. By saying a dj is not a musician is like saying a singer isn't a musician because it doesn't play any instrument
 
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Ahzek M'kar

Anal Centipede
Just fish?

I think the same about a lot of breeds of dog and fancy pigeons (some birds are basically prisoners in their own deformed bodies.) But people want thier pugs and laugh at how adorable it is that it can't even scratch it's own body or run without collapsing...

Don't forget German Shepherds. The curve they have in their back just before the tail is a man-made modification. It was deemed "fashionable" and leads to spine problems in old age, which are usually painful.
 

Aleu

Deuces
It is not, sure you can say, hey this sound nice, but you don't really know why because if you don't know about music who can't totally apreciate what the guitarist is doing, or why.
I don't need to be a writer to know when a piece of literature is really just trash. It's the same for music. But hey, anything to have an excuse to be pretentious, right?
 

dialup

wet floop
I don't need to be a writer to know when a piece of literature is really just trash. It's the same for music. But hey, anything to have an excuse to be pretentious, right?
I'm probably going to sound pretentious as well, but I kinda get what he's saying. One of my friends likes my old shitty moeblob animu "art" better than my improved more realistic art. She doesn't draw, so she doesn't get why something she might like is still shitty. There's nothing wrong with liking any kind of art in any form, but people who work at an art and know the process of creating it know more about the mechanics and whatnot.

I hope that makes sense.
 

Aleu

Deuces
I'm probably going to sound pretentious as well, but I kinda get what he's saying. One of my friends likes my old shitty moeblob animu "art" better than my improved more realistic art. She doesn't draw, so she doesn't get why something she might like is still shitty. There's nothing wrong with liking any kind of art in any form, but people who work at an art and know the process of creating it know more about the mechanics and whatnot.

I hope that makes sense.

There's a difference between liking something and appreciating quality.

For example I can't stand Jimi Hendrix, however I do acknowledge that he is a fantastic musician. I'd just rather not listen to his stuff.
 

dialup

wet floop
There's a difference between liking something and appreciating quality.

For example I can't stand Jimi Hendrix, however I do acknowledge that he is a fantastic musician. I'd just rather not listen to his stuff.

Ah, okay I get what you're saying now! My bad.
 

Inpw

Roller Coaster Imagineer.
Anyone who can make music, with whatever it is, is a musician. By saying a dj is not a musician is like saying a singer isn't a musician because it doesn't play any instrument

99% of DJ's are not composing anything. Playing someones track at the same speed as another persons track and fading between them is not creating music.

Producers are the guys that makes the music thus the talent. Many electronic producers can't play instruments professionally. Live performers are not as common with these guys as people think.

Turntablists are skilled composers but unlike popular belief, it's not all right then and there. It takes year's of practice to get the hang of it and just like the string instrument player, the proper turntablists knows/practiced the song and the style to use.
 

sniperfreak223

More Metal Than You !!!
Anyone who can make music, with whatever it is, is a musician. By saying a dj is not a musician is like saying a singer isn't a musician because it doesn't play any instrument

But the voice IS an instrument, it takes a lot of training and conditioning to sing well, even in the case of things like "death burps", if you try those without the proper warm-ups and exercises, you will destroy your vocal chords in no time, and they definitely get musician cred if they write their own lyrics, cuz trust me,writing lyrics ain't easy. DJ's, however, primarily just "create" music by sampling the creative output of others. I can't speak for other areas of the world, but in my neck of the woods, any preppy chick or stoner with an iPod and a Macbook thinks they're a musician because they can make "remixes" and mash-ups of songs...and I just don't feel they deserve the title of musician, as they know nothing of what actually goes into the creation of music.
 

Lobar

The hell am I reading, here?
Penises should stay uncut.

This isn't unpopular. What is unpopular is that circumcision is as high-priority a social problem as horrifyingly frequent occurrences of rape, or economic inequality.
 

Rassah

Well-Known Member
This isn't unpopular. What is unpopular is that circumcision is as high-priority a social problem as horrifyingly frequent occurrences of rape, or economic inequality.

If it was not unpopular, we wouldn't have such a high percentage of the population in US going through with it, because girls prefer it that way.
Also, shouldn't we first focus on global warming, and then once that's fixed, focus on war, then when we fix that, focus on cancer, then once we cured cancer, focus on rape, and only after stopping all rape, get to fixing economic inequality? We can't do more than one thing without stumbling all over ourselves.
 

Lobar

The hell am I reading, here?
Eh?
That's not why circumcision is done

no you see feminism is responsible for each and every problem men face because
 

Rassah

Well-Known Member
Eh?
That's not why circumcision is done

That actually is. Moms want their boys to be circumcised because they prefer it that way, and dads want them circumcised because they want their son to look like them. Also, do read comments on circumcision, or on uncircumcised porn, on women's forums sometimes. It's icky, looks nasty, "I prefer smooth and clean," etc. (I think I've even read a reference to Shai hulud at one point)
 

Aleu

Deuces
That actually is. Moms want their boys to be circumcised because they prefer it that way, and dads want them circumcised because they want their son to look like them. Also, do read comments on circumcision, or on uncircumcised porn, on women's forums sometimes. It's icky, looks nasty, "I prefer smooth and clean," etc. (I think I've even read a reference to Shai hulud at one point)
No. It's not.
There may be a perception of girls preferring it that way but that's not why people are for circumcision. It partially because of religion and the other part of "cleanliness and medical benefit". The aesthetic preferences are so minute in comparison it's negligible but sure let's blame women.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
If it was not unpopular, we wouldn't have such a high percentage of the population in US going through with it, because girls prefer it that way.
Also, shouldn't we first focus on global warming, and then once that's fixed, focus on war, then when we fix that, focus on cancer, then once we cured cancer, focus on rape, and only after stopping all rape, get to fixing economic inequality? We can't do more than one thing without stumbling all over ourselves.

Maybe you can't, but the rest of us are significantly more capable than that.

RE circ discussion:

I'd rather take the more conditional form that anybody recommending cutting a baby's genitals for non therapeutic reasons is part of the problem, regardless of their chromosomes.
 
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Ahzek M'kar

Anal Centipede
I've never met a girl who was particularly fussed over whether or not their partners had a foreskin. The whole "omgurrd gurlz liek it betar" is just a lie conjured up by circumcised guys.
 

Kitsune Cross

**** that **** now! Bitch
But the voice IS an instrument, it takes a lot of training and conditioning to sing well, even in the case of things like "death burps", if you try those without the proper warm-ups and exercises, you will destroy your vocal chords in no time, and they definitely get musician cred if they write their own lyrics, cuz trust me,writing lyrics ain't easy. DJ's, however, primarily just "create" music by sampling the creative output of others. I can't speak for other areas of the world, but in my neck of the woods, any preppy chick or stoner with an iPod and a Macbook thinks they're a musician because they can make "remixes" and mash-ups of songs...and I just don't feel they deserve the title of musician, as they know nothing of what actually goes into the creation of music.

I get your point, even though everybody can sing not everybody can do it well, as for DJs there is a difference between those who sample and remix and those who actually do music, djs in rock and nü metal music like Dj Lethal or Mr hahn needs actual technic and practice to scratch and correctly use a turntable
 

Rassah

Well-Known Member
No. It's not.
There may be a perception of girls preferring it that way but that's not why people are for circumcision. It partially because of religion and the other part of "cleanliness and medical benefit". The aesthetic preferences are so minute in comparison it's negligible but sure let's blame women.

VERY few people do it for religious reasons. At this point, only some jewish sects and muslims. The "cleanliness and medical benefit" part has been debunked, and as far as I know isn't even being offered at the reason at hospitals. So the only two remaining reasons are "as a matter of routine procedure" where hospitals just do it without really asking, or because parents have miscoonceptions about it, one of which could be "cleanliness and medical benefit."

Also, I am blaming women and men (great job white knighting and coming to the poor defenceless women's defence though!), and am doing that due to actually having some experience with the study of the subject, as well as personal interraction through discussions.


Maybe you can't, but the rest of us are significantly more capable than that.

My sarcasm didn't translate through the intertubes, no matter how thickly and ridiculously I applied it.
 

Aleu

Deuces
VERY few people do it for religious reasons. At this point, only some jewish sects and muslims. The "cleanliness and medical benefit" part has been debunked, and as far as I know isn't even being offered at the reason at hospitals. So the only two remaining reasons are "as a matter of routine procedure" where hospitals just do it without really asking, or because parents have miscoonceptions about it, one of which could be "cleanliness and medical benefit."

Also, I am blaming women and men (great job white knighting and coming to the poor defenceless women's defence though!), and am doing that due to actually having some experience with the study of the subject, as well as personal interraction through discussions.
Given that I'm female and you stating the opinion of women then yes I will come in and say you're full of shit.

The reasons why hospitals do it out of routine procedure is because of the misconception of "medical and cleanliness benefit". They honestly don't give a damn if they think girls like cut or not.
 
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