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Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
My sarcasm didn't translate through the intertubes, no matter how thickly and ridiculously I applied it.

I'm currently arguing with people who believe in astral projection; I've lose all context of which statements are heartfelt and jokes anymore.
 

Rassah

Well-Known Member
I'm not going to speak for what men want in their sons dicks because I'm not a man. Neither should you speak for what women want in a guy's penis because you're not a woman. See how that works?

Erm... not really. I know what other people want, despite not being them, just because I've asked them and they have told me. Does that work?
 

Aleu

Deuces
Erm... not really. I know what other people want, despite not being them, just because I've asked them and they have told me. Does that work?

So because a few people told you now you have authority to say everyone wants the same thing?
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
I think we can all agree that if parents are mutilating their son out of concern for the fetish of his future girlfriends that the fault rests squarely on them.
 

Rassah

Well-Known Member
So because a few people told you now you have authority to say everyone wants the same thing?

There's also polling?
 

Rassah

Well-Known Member
So a small portion automatically equates all women?

You seem rather overly defensive, since I never said all women. Are all women insecure and overly defensive because you seem to be?

P.S. I apologize for overgeneralizing in my original post. I certainly wouldn't want to lose my club membership at my University Feminist Organization.
 
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Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
So a small portion automatically equates all women?

This topic is moot, but this comment has a fallacy in it.

If we were to predict the IQ of the average person we would need only sample about a few thousand randomly selected individuals, because the trends are gaussian and therefore representative, so small sample sizes do not preclude general conclusions.
 

Aleu

Deuces
You seem rather overly defensive, since I never said all women. Are all women insecure and overly defensive because you seem to be?

P.S. I apologize for overgeneralizing in my original post. I certainly wouldn't want to lose my club membership at my University Feminist Organization.

You said "girls seem to like it".
Not "some girls according to herp-derp poll" but just "girls"

So excuse me if I don't like people speaking for me just because a poll on the internet that doesn't even take into account a significant percent said so.

This topic is moot, but this comment has a fallacy in it.

If we were to predict the IQ of the average person we would need only sample about a few thousand randomly selected individuals, because the trends are gaussian and therefore representative, so small sample sizes do not preclude general conclusions.
Except this has nothing to do with intelligence? Polls also depend on location with this type of thing. In America, circumcision isn't as demonized as it is in England. In other countries female genital mutilation is OK. So saying "oh well women like this type of thing" is kinda absurd and insulting

OH BUT IT'S OKAY TO SPEAK FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S INTERESTS BECAUSE A POLL SAID SO ON THE INTERNET
 
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Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
It's missing the point anyway, which is that parents are under no onus to distort their children because of the fetishistic preferences of other people.
 

Kitsune Cross

**** that **** now! Bitch
I actually like the path of totality and haven't found anybody irl that actually dislikes it, even some friends that don't like korn likes the album
 

Aleu

Deuces
It's missing the point anyway, which is that parents are under no onus to distort their children because of the fetishistic preferences of other people.

That's rich coming from you.

The point isn't about circumcision. The point is that no one has the right to speak for an entire groups preferences, poll or not.
 

Misomie

Lazy Artist
Well of course Americans call un-cute penises weird looking. It's because people usually only show and draw them as cut so that becomes the norm. Let's say you lived your whole life only seeing orange cats. Orange cats were shown in all the media and even were crudely drawn everywhere. You'll come to accept orange cats as the norm because you never knew anything else. Then one day you come across a gray cat. You think it looks weird because your brain has been conditioned to think orange cats are natural. This may cause you to give the gray cat a try or reject it even though the gray cat might be just as good as the orange cat or even better. However you reject it because it looks weird. However, you might own an orange cat yourself. You've had this cat all your life. Now there is another cat. You might reject it solely because you think your orange cat is better than this new and different gray cat. Of course you'd prefer your orange cat because its yours and all you'll ever have. This could be caused by jealousy because someone with a gray cat can get an orange cat whenever while someone with and orange cat can never have a true gray cat again, sure they can dye its fur but it'll never be truly gray.

Also, circumcision in the USA became popular during a time of purity. People got their sons circumcised to prevent them from masturbating because it caused pain if they tried to touch it afterwards (the way they remove the foreskin is horrific and torturous). They also tried to stop their daughters as well by applying stuff to their clit that would burn them if they masturbated. Over the years it just became the norm and people didn't think about it that much and just got it done. Lately though, less and less boys are getting cut so in a few generations, circumcised will be the "weird" one in the USA.

There's also polling?

Polls are not good indicators. There is the sample size, the population asked, which sexes were asked, honesty of answerers, the way the question was asked, the options provided for answers, timing of the question, if guys were cut/un-cut, if gals had experience with one or the other or both, ect. Polling is in no way accurate unless everybody was polled. Even then, you'll have people that lie and those without experience to muddle up your answers.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
You said "girls seem to like it".
Not "some girls according to herp-derp poll" but just "girls"

So excuse me if I don't like people speaking for me just because a poll on the internet that doesn't even take into account a significant percent said so.


Except this has nothing to do with intelligence?
Polls also depend on location with this type of thing. In America, circumcision isn't as demonized as it is in England. In other countries female genital mutilation is OK. So saying "oh well women like this type of thing" is kinda absurd and insulting

OH BUT IT'S OKAY TO SPEAK FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S INTERESTS BECAUSE A POLL SAID SO ON THE INTERNET

and the point sails loftily over your head. Small sample sizes can be indicative of general trends, saying 'the sample size is small' is therefore a broken argument.

Of course, I don't care whether a large number of american women like circumcised penises or not- the blame wouldn't lie with them, it would lie with the parents who have the right of veto.

and seriously, it has also been stated in this thread that 'men want their children to look like them'. OH HOW OFFENDED I AM THAT SOMEONE HAS JUST STEREOTYPED MY WHOLE GENDER, I shall derail the topic into an incorrectly structured criticism of a point that is not relevant or significant!
 

sniperfreak223

More Metal Than You !!!
as to this whole raging debate, without revealing too much about myself, I'll just say none of my lady friends ever complained.
 

Jashwa

Member
I just browsed for some poling data, and the general consensus on the interwebs is that women are about 50-50 split about it,
So, uh, how does this support your argument that it's done because women like it when just as many women like it as not?
 

Aleu

Deuces
and the point sails loftily over your head. Small sample sizes can be indicative of general trends, saying 'the sample size is small' is therefore a broken argument.

Of course, I don't care whether a large number of american women like circumcised penises or not- the blame wouldn't lie with them, it would lie with the parents who have the right of veto.

and seriously, it has also been stated in this thread that 'men want their children to look like them'. OH HOW OFFENDED I AM THAT SOMEONE HAS JUST STEREOTYPED MY WHOLE GENDER, I shall derail the topic into an incorrectly structured criticism of a point that is not relevant or significant!
"Polls are not good indicators. There is the sample size, the population asked, which sexes were asked, honesty of answerers, the way the question was asked, the options provided for answers, timing of the question, if guys were cut/un-cut, if gals had experience with one or the other or both, ect. Polling is in no way accurate unless everybody was polled. Even then, you'll have people that lie and those without experience to muddle up your answers." -Misomie

Again, I'm not blaming anyone. Rassah had stated (incorrectly mind you) that girls prefer cut which is why cuts are popular. If you're pissing and moaning that's off topic then I highly suggest you never correct anyone ever.
 
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