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Unsure About my Place in the Community

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Andromedahl

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Ok is this better andro Im new to furaffinity i litterally got on here 2 days ago
Much better; Makes stuff more organized, easier to read, and also will keep you from getting temp-banned; The forums has a bad habit of accidentally auto-banning posters that post too many things in a certain time period for a day or so for being 'spammers'.
 

quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
Not to impose on you but the comparison between furrys and another "fandom" BDSM (i think thats the one people like gimp and leather stuff right?) is more socially acceptable then furries. So masochistical acts in society are more publicly acceptible and seen in tv shows movies and such than furrys bc "sex"
I will note that the bondage content in TV shows and movies generally falls into one of two categories: it's either relatively simple, or it's played for laughs to some degree. There are exceptions, such as 50 Shades of Grey, but even that isn't actually an accurate/good portrayal of a safe and healthy BDSM relationship. Just as the "Fur and Loathing" CSI episode is not a good or accurate portrayal of furry fandom. The difference there is that people see 50 Shades, feel a tingle in their loins, and go on to do things that could potentially get them injured.

The other difference is that furry fandom, by its nature, has potential appeal to children. Unfortunately, whenever children come into the picture, rationality has a way of going out the window, and standards will shift. It's not necessarily fair, and you and I know that most furries are pretty good about trying to separate their clean and adult work, but that's hard for an outsider to see.
 

Maxhydro123

New Member
I will note that the bondage content in TV shows and movies generally falls into one of two categories: it's either relatively simple, or it's played for laughs to some degree. There are exceptions, such as 50 Shades of Grey, but even that isn't actually an accurate/good portrayal of a safe and healthy BDSM relationship. Just as the "Fur and Loathing" CSI episode is not a good or accurate portrayal of furry fandom. The difference there is that people see 50 Shades, feel a tingle in their loins, and go on to do things that could potentially get them injured.

The other difference is that furry fandom, by its nature, has potential appeal to children. Unfortunately, whenever children come into the picture, rationality has a way of going out the window, and standards will shift. It's not necessarily fair, and you and I know that most furries are pretty good about trying to separate their clean and adult work, but that's hard for an outsider to see.

I've never seen 50 shades of grey nor read the book nor have i seen anything of BDSM so can you give a quick explanation of healthy BDSM bc when i think of it its being bound up, blindfolded, slightly "tortured" (tickling and such) but if those are accurate potrails of BDSM could you explain please.
 

Mystic Thunder

Worse than a grounded pilot: a grounded pegasus
I've never seen 50 shades of grey nor read the book nor have i seen anything of BDSM so can you give a quick explanation of healthy BDSM bc when i think of it its being bound up, blindfolded, slightly "tortured" (tickling and such) but if those are accurate potrails of BDSM could you explain please.
Good sir, you do not want to have an answer to that question... there is no going back once you see any of it. BUT, if you insist then look it up (in a window or browser that won't leave it in your browsing history)
 
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Sergei Sóhomo

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Not saying that his opinions are completely meaningless, but they are still only just his opinions. There are plenty of other intelligent members in the fandom, some with even higher credentials, that will have different feelings.

I agree that conventions should remain family-friendly and show a "clean" view of the fandom. I agree that MOST furries shouldn't talk to the media, and certainly not about the sex stuff. I agree with a lot of the things Kage says. However, they don't represent everyone's views, and some of them are merely his personal opinions.

If OP is into really dirty sexy stuff, that's his business. Kage might not like it, and I agree that it shouldn't be broadcasted in public where it will inevitably bite all of us in the ass, but there are others like OP that do. Kage's opinions don't reflect the views of everyone, although there are times where it seems like he is trying to make it look that way. OP shouldn't feel shitty about it, I'm just saying that they shouldn't care. If OP feels differently so be it, he's not alone. There are potentially millions of members in the fandom, we aren't all going to agree on the same things.
I can accept this for the most part, though I'm not sure where OP stands since he never clearly explained it

He tends to be very opinionated and controlling (going as far as to ban people from Anthrocon for content of their YouTube accounts), and he's also quite hypocritical in the whole "erotic aspect of fandom is bad" thing, considering he's a macrophile in closet. Not the guy I would want to represent the fandom, in all honesty.
I agree that he is fairly controlling with what he does, but I can also understand why he does it as well. Never heard of the closet stuff and I am aware of the banning rom the cons that he's done before

At first I actually thought the person was W. T. Snacks but then realized it was shopped. W. T. Snacks was a terrible, terrible person

excuse me to all of you who posted after this women, my opinion of boomer the dog was that of i don't him and yes i do also think hes a bit messed up in the head but hes doing what he loves and is very passionate. How would any of your feel if you where called autistic and "retarded" (i use that word loosely and sparingly) to a specific aspect that you'r passionate about?
That doesn't answer my question. What do you mean by "I'm unsure where i stand in the fandom being part of the 1% not in my fursona but in other aspects."?

1. I didn't insult the man
2. I wouldn't care. Words don't bother me

I've never seen 50 shades of grey nor read the book nor have i seen anything of BDSM so can you give a quick explanation of healthy BDSM bc when i think of it its being bound up, blindfolded, slightly "tortured" (tickling and such) but if those are accurate potrails of BDSM could you explain please.
It's porn for women. Nothing more, nothing less

Good sir, you do not want to have an answer to that question... there is no going back once you see any of it. BUT, if you insist then look it up (in a window or browser that won't leave it in your browsing history)
I've seen it any I'm still the same as ever my amigo
 

Maxhydro123

New Member
Good sir, you do not want to have an answer to that question... there is no going back once you see any of it. BUT, if you insist then look it up (in a window or browser that won't leave it in your browsing history)

I've seen much much worse things...you know how many videos of people getting this dick chopped out, behadings, skin pulling, upon other horrible things i've had to watch. I did an hours worth of reddit 50/50 ...i think i've seen it all. but if it involved leather i'm out

I don't know anyone's preference, so I assume vanilla until I know it's chocolate (metaphors suck)

metophors don't suck. :p
 

Maxhydro123

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I don't know anyone's preference, so I assume vanilla until I know it's chocolate (metaphors suck)

btw I role play BDSM on a daily basis not and not to go into depth i do all of them expect bondage...its not that bad unless you go into the dark parts of S and M (sadism and masochism)
 

quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
I've never seen 50 shades of grey nor read the book nor have i seen anything of BDSM so can you give a quick explanation of healthy BDSM bc when i think of it its being bound up, blindfolded, slightly "tortured" (tickling and such) but if those are accurate potrails of BDSM could you explain please.
BDSM can be bondage and teasing, but depending on the tie tying someone up with a blindfold and tickling them can also just be "vanilla with sprinkles", something done to spice up one's regular sex life with a partner. Without going into details that would be unsuitable for a PG-13 forum, BDSM is, to many practicitioners, predominantly about the exchange of power, in a manner that is safe, sane, and consensual. There are aspects of even fairly "simple" scenes that can potentially cause damage if you don't know what you're doing (did you know that if you're unlucky, improperly applied handcuffs can cause nerve damage?), and my understanding is that the exchange of power portrayed in 50 Shades falls somewhat short of the safe/sane/consensual mark that should be central to any BDSM relationship. Which isn't a problem when someone does it in a random short story posted online, but when it's portrayed in a positive light in a work that sees as much mainstream attention as 50 Shades, you get people thinking they want to try BDSM who don't really have a good idea of what they're getting into. The Criminal Minds (Season 10) episode "Bare Reflections" is actually a pretty good spoof of the problematic side of 50 Shades's popularity.

There's a lot of things that fall under the BDSM umbrella, though, so making a brief summary of what it entails isn't a task I feel equal to. I can just say there's a world of difference between the light bondage and dominance stuff I see people playing at, and practicing BDSM with someone who knows what they're doing.
It's porn for women. Nothing more, nothing less
I resent that statement! ;P I'm a woman and I'm far more interested in quality writing that knows what it's doing than poorly-portrayed BDSM.
If you want quality ladyporn, look at Mercedes Lackey's 100 Kingdoms series. ;)
 
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Deleted member 82554

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Oh boy, what to say about Kage. I brought up the topic of murrsuits in a winestream one night and he told me to "shut the fuck up"; obviously it's a touchy (lel) subject for him. I do find it quite ironic and hypocritical of him that he did get so offended on account of hearing a few NSFW stories about him, but what he says about the fandom and public relations is absolutely spot on. The fandom would've never come this far in that regard if it weren't for preventive measures to weed out the bad, so to speak...

In regards to your not knowing your place in the fandom, well, you like furry related things, don't you? Just enjoy it for what it is.
 
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Keeroh

Shinies Snatcher
It's a fandom. If the species of your fictionally created self representative anthropomorphic character is something that leads people to not want to socialize with you, then... they aren't worth socializing with. If people are put off by your kinks and quirks, they are not worth socializing with.* There isn't a spot for you, you just gotta plop down and make your own. Poke people. Obtain acquaintances. Attend weird furmeets with people who have the social ineptitude of a wet mop. Enjoy the weirdness and don't let it become such a serious thing.

That's the killer I see all around this fandom. This is not the end-all-be-all for companionship and comradery, and if you treat it as such, it WILL be the end for your own well-being.


*Caveat being, if you wag your fetish in peoples faces willy-nilly and they aren't interested, they may get miffy.
 
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Sergei Sóhomo

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It's a fandom. If the species of your fictionally created self representative anthropomorphic character is something that leads people to not want to socialize with you, then... they aren't worth socializing with. If people are put off by your kinks and quirks, they are not worth socializing with.* There isn't a spot for you, you just gotta plop down and make your own. Poke people. Obtain acquaintances. Attend weird furmeets with people who have the social ineptitude of a wet mop. Enjoy the weirdness and don't let it become such a serious thing.

That's the killer I see all around this fandom. This is not the end-all-be-all for companionship and comradery, and if you treat it as such, it WILL be the end for your own well-being.


*Caveat being, if you wag your fetish in peoples faces willy-nilly and they aren't interested, they may get miffy.

Shiyet I can't argue with this
 

Maxhydro123

New Member
Oh boy, what to say about Kage. I brought up the topic of murrsuits in a winestream one night and he told me to "shut the fuck up"; obviously it's a touchy (lel) subject for him. I do find it quite ironic and hypocritical of him that he did get so offended on account of hearing a few NSFW stories about him, but what he says about the fandom and public relations is absolutely spot on. The fandom would've never come this far in that regard if it weren't for preventive measures to weed out the bad, so to speak...

In regards to your not knowing your place in the fandom, well, you like furry related things, don't you? Just enjoy it for what it is.

so you're saying just keep my mouth shut around furcon and just be what others want even though i'm quite into NSFW stuff?

It's a fandom. If the species of your fictionally created self representative anthropomorphic character is something that leads people to not want to socialize with you, then... they aren't worth socializing with. If people are put off by your kinks and quirks, they are not worth socializing with.* There isn't a spot for you, you just gotta plop down and make your own. Poke people. Obtain acquaintances. Attend weird furmeets with people who have the social ineptitude of a wet mop. Enjoy the weirdness and don't let it become such a serious thing.

That's the killer I see all around this fandom. This is not the end-all-be-all for companionship and comradery, and if you treat it as such, it WILL be the end for your own well-being.


*Caveat being, if you wag your fetish in peoples faces willy-nilly and they aren't interested, they may get miffy.

Thank you for the support it means a lot that you'd acually understand my point and are there to help me thank you.
 

Maxhydro123

New Member
No, I'm saying spend more time enjoying the parts of the community you like instead of trying to find where you fit in.

oh ok i do enjoy the are clean and dirty i would have a clean verson of my own furs instead of using someone elses. but i got no money nor anyone i can trust to have it around. Litterally i'd spend so much money on fur stuff if i was confident in my college and friends to not banish me form them. (college wont but my friend idk yet i still learning about them.
 
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Zaddict16

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The ugly truth is, is that people fear what they don't understand, or don't have any information. Why do you think so many people are afraid of the dark? But really, the reason why people hate furries is because of the inibility to see that these are just people, trying to find out what they want to do in their life. Beating down another human beings dreams and desirses is like dragging them across the floor and telling them to just give up. I'm just applled that people do not understand that wether we wear a fursuit or not, we're still human. And we have the rights of choosing whatever we want to do in life. So no matter what someone else says, keep pushing until you've made it to the other side. Trust me that, pray if you need to, it always helps me out. (No offense to anyone's religion).
 

quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
so you're saying just keep my mouth shut around furcon and just be what others want even though i'm quite into NSFW stuff?
Going around flaunting your kinks in public is... only really appropriate in specific kink venues. But discreetly discussing it with people who're also interested in it is fine, and you shouldn't feel obligated to pretend like you've only got interest in clean content. All you have to do is respect the people around you, and not push NSFW content onto people who don't want anything to do with it.
 

SSJ3Mewtwo

Well-Known Member
so you're saying just keep my mouth shut around furcon and just be what others want even though i'm quite into NSFW stuff?

Mungo mentioned the venue already, but to add an extra note about it: Many cons have panels dedicated to particular discussion points, and while most are general topics (at cons I myself love the transformation panels), there are often 'late night' panels, where the kinky stuff does come up.

The general panels generally don't dig into the fetish content, whereas the late-night ones pretty much focus on it.
 
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Zaddict16

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Going around flaunting your kinks in public is... only really appropriate in specific kink venues. But discreetly discussing it with people who're also interested in it is fine, and you shouldn't feel obligated to pretend like you've only got interest in clean content. All you have to do is respect the people around you, and not push NSFW content onto people who don't want anything to do with it.
Yes, I agree. I already told my friend and he was cool with it. Just do it subtly and respect their decision, whatever it may be and it will eventually work out.
 
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