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Upon the touchy subject of furries and real fur.

fox fur or faux fur? (multiple choice)

  • real fur doesnt really bother me

    Votes: 54 38.6%
  • it is cruel and inhumane

    Votes: 24 17.1%
  • wild hunted is fine

    Votes: 56 40.0%
  • farmed fur is fine

    Votes: 17 12.1%
  • I would never wear it myself but I dont mind other people who have it.

    Votes: 37 26.4%
  • KILL ALL FURRIERS! ARRGHHH! SAVE TEH FLUFFY ANIMALS!

    Votes: 14 10.0%
  • fake fur should only be bought instead of real.

    Votes: 52 37.1%

  • Total voters
    140

kittyjess

New Member
The UK is run by incompetent and probably inbred morons who think cartoon children are real, so that doesn't really surprise me.


You don't seem to know the laws on hunting in any country but the UK, so I'd say I still know more about the subject than you do.

Awww cute!
We have an uneducated American troll, No matter what you think of our current administration, you can hardly claim that yours has been any better, indeed, one could argue that you have had some of the worst leaders ever, but I will let you off for being simple.

For the record I hardly support our government (or indeed yours) on the vast marjory of issues. I also may add the I won't pass judgement upon laws that I don't know, unlike yourself and I must ask wtf was with the cartoon children remark, that was most odd.

Next topic, lets get this out the way, I feel that you are most uncouth and exhibit aspects of your people, may I recommend that you refrain from this, stereotypical troll behavior.

Can I also stare to the board that my views are not what I would call too common with in this green and pleasant land (that is forever teaming with wildlife, unsurprisingly) and that I have been a most fierce about my support for animal rights, often, sadly having to resort to violence, to stop what I consider wrong (the point that comes to mind is the shootings at more than one fox hunt, I was amazingly sent along to).

What I have done in the past might be considered as wrong, but at the time I considered it required, so I did my duty.

I also might note for the record that I consider humans a mistake and feel that (given evolutionary mistakes) that humans are one the weakest species around, yes, you may have the intellectual advantage but, I feel that human physical attributes are most weak are there for are lesser.

I feel that humans are most wasteful, I am not against hunting, if that is needed for survival, but I find for any other reason it is just pointless.

Humans are more like a bacteria than a real animal, as they hardly find a equilibrium with its own environment and thus I would like to see the human population to fall quickly but I don't argue that human intervention is required to "control" something that nature is quite able to regulate it's self.

On the topic of fur, I find it most sick and wasteful, pointless and cruel.
 

Randy-Darkshade

Bike riding squirrel thing.
Awww cute!
We have an uneducated American troll, No matter what you think of our current administration, you can hardly claim that yours has been any better, indeed, one could argue that you have had some of the worst leaders ever, but I will let you off for being simple.

>.> From what I read below Rigor is much smarter than you.

For the record I hardly support our government (or indeed yours) on the vast marjory of issues. I also may add the I won't pass judgement upon laws that I don't know, unlike yourself and I must ask wtf was with the cartoon children remark, that was most odd.

Even I got the cartoon remark.

Next topic, lets get this out the way, I feel that you are most uncouth and exhibit aspects of your people, may I recommend that you refrain from this, stereotypical troll behavior.

Rigor is Rigor, nothing will change that.

Can I also stare to the board that my views are not what I would call too common with in this green and pleasant land (that is forever teaming with wildlife, unsurprisingly) and that I have been a most fierce about my support for animal rights, often, sadly having to resort to violence, to stop what I consider wrong (the point that comes to mind is the shootings at more than one fox hunt, I was amazingly sent along to).

God an animal rights activists. You wont ever put a stop to fox hunting, so why bother wasting your time? Or do you like spoiling what other people actually like to do? just because YOU have a problem with it YOU want to spoil it for others, I fucking hate people like you. How would you like it if I started protesting against something you liked doing cause I felt it was wrong?

What I have done in the past might be considered as wrong, but at the time I considered it required, so I did my duty.

Your duty? What are you? gods fucking gift to the planet?

I also might note for the record that I consider humans a mistake and feel that (given evolutionary mistakes) that humans are one the weakest species around, yes, you may have the intellectual advantage but, I feel that human physical attributes are most weak are there for are lesser.

In which case you are a mistake aswell, you are no better than any other human.

I feel that humans are most wasteful, I am not against hunting, if that is needed for survival, but I find for any other reason it is just pointless.

Hypocrite.

Humans are more like a bacteria than a real animal, as they hardly find a equilibrium with its own environment and thus I would like to see the human population to fall quickly but I don't argue that human intervention is required to "control" something that nature is quite able to regulate it's self.

You seriously need some psychiatric help.

On the topic of fur, I find it most sick and wasteful, pointless and cruel.

Hypocrite again.
 

RageDragon

Member
Humans are most wasteful? Do you know what the major cause of green house gases in the world is? Cows. Pigs. Farting. Shitting.

However, let's say this: How can you be so high and mighty on the subject when you are sitting behind the screen of a monitor that will take thousands of years to biodegrade.
 

Randy-Darkshade

Bike riding squirrel thing.
Humans are most wasteful? Do you know what the major cause of green house gases in the world is? Cows. Pigs. Farting. Shitting.

However, let's say this: How can you be so high and mighty on the subject when you are sitting behind the screen of a monitor that will take thousands of years to biodegrade.

IMO we are resourceful aswell, how many different chemicals and metals have we made use of it? we humans have practically made use of everything the planet has had to offer us.
 

Skidd

I liek paperclips. :B
High breeding numbers are a result of their high mortality rate not the other way round.

Wrong. Dogs have a much higher potential reproductive rate than do deer or really any ungulate at all (save possibly swine). All animals produce as much as they can. "High Breeding Numbers" are a result of lack of pressure on a population, as well as several breeding strategies (R/K selection theory) that emphasize quantity over quality.

Pressure on a species CAN cause it to produce more offspring, but your logic seems really backwards and twisted from my knowledge of ecology.


Rigor Sardonicus said:
Rabbits are rightly considered a pest species, so I really don't know what that bitch is complaining about :V
If people were really about protecting the environment, they'd ship themselves down to Australia and try to take out some rabbits.


Kittyjess said:
I also might note for the record that I consider humans a mistake and feel that (given evolutionary mistakes) that humans are one the weakest species around, yes, you may have the intellectual advantage but, I feel that human physical attributes are most weak are there for are lesser.
If that were true, then we wouldn't be around to talk about it. There's no such thing as an evolutionary "mistake". There is no "right" or "wrong" evolution. Weakest species around? Don't make me laugh! If we're talking physicality, yes, but we would be long dead if we were infact that weak. Tigers and Wolves do not rule the world. It's species like raccoons and rats and humans that can adapt that own the planet. "Weak" my foot.

I also want to point out that in terms of physical attributes, humans, along with canines like african wild dogs and wolves, are number one when it comes to endurance. Bushmen may never be able to outpace a gazelle, but they sure as hell can run for a lot longer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wI-9RJi0Qo <- Watch, and tell me that humans are weak and a "mistake". Humans, like all products are evolution, are tailor-made for a specific niche and they are built for SUCCESS. And if humans are not the most successful (vertebrate) species on the planet, I will eat my underwear.

Humans are more like a bacteria than a real animal, as they hardly find a equilibrium with its own environment and thus I would like to see the human population to fall quickly but I don't argue that human intervention is required to "control" something that nature is quite able to regulate it's self.
A population can't regulate itself if all the predators have been displaced by humans. In my area, if the deer population is not kept in check by human hunting, then many more animals will die of starvation than the number of animals killed by comparatively painless bullets.

By your standards, raccoons, rats, and feral cats etc. are all "more like bacteria than a real animal" because they're adaptive and have relatively unchecked populations. Humans are just the best because not only are they extremely adaptive, they bend their environment to their needs.

You can debate this in regards to cruelty and whatnot all you like, but inferring that humans are a biological mistake is not only wrong, it's a wonderfully ignorant statement. :3

Nothing rubs me wrong more than people who refuse the fact they're human and see them as a dirty plague.
 

Ozriel

Inglorious Bastard
Awww cute!
We have an uneducated American troll, No matter what you think of our current administration, you can hardly claim that yours has been any better, indeed, one could argue that you have had some of the worst leaders ever, but I will let you off for being simple.

For the record I hardly support our government (or indeed yours) on the vast marjory of issues. I also may add the I won't pass judgement upon laws that I don't know, unlike yourself and I must ask wtf was with the cartoon children remark, that was most odd.

Next topic, lets get this out the way, I feel that you are most uncouth and exhibit aspects of your people, may I recommend that you refrain from this, stereotypical troll behavior.

Can I also stare to the board that my views are not what I would call too common with in this green and pleasant land (that is forever teaming with wildlife, unsurprisingly) and that I have been a most fierce about my support for animal rights, often, sadly having to resort to violence, to stop what I consider wrong (the point that comes to mind is the shootings at more than one fox hunt, I was amazingly sent along to).

What I have done in the past might be considered as wrong, but at the time I considered it required, so I did my duty.

I also might note for the record that I consider humans a mistake and feel that (given evolutionary mistakes) that humans are one the weakest species around, yes, you may have the intellectual advantage but, I feel that human physical attributes are most weak are there for are lesser.

I feel that humans are most wasteful, I am not against hunting, if that is needed for survival, but I find for any other reason it is just pointless.

Humans are more like a bacteria than a real animal, as they hardly find a equilibrium with its own environment and thus I would like to see the human population to fall quickly but I don't argue that human intervention is required to "control" something that nature is quite able to regulate it's self.

On the topic of fur, I find it most sick and wasteful, pointless and cruel.

We are getting a lot of Pseudo-Intellectuals here today. o.o

Also: Calling someone a troll, when they disagree with your opinions is a bad debate tactic. -sips coffee-


Other than that, your misanthropy is laughable.


Like someone else stated, evolution is never a mistake, and nature in itself is never perfect.
 
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Randy-Darkshade

Bike riding squirrel thing.
I am so glad I am not the only one who disagreed with what kittyjess said, but I will bet my last cent she won't come back to this thread/forum.
 

Ozriel

Inglorious Bastard
I am so glad I am not the only one who disagreed with what kittyjess said, but I will bet my last cent she won't come back to this thread/forum.

She's a fucking misanthropic retard.
I hope she does. I have been bored and anxious all day.
 

wendyw

Member
Wrong. Dogs have a much higher potential reproductive rate than do deer or really any ungulate at all (save possibly swine). All animals produce as much as they can. "High Breeding Numbers" are a result of lack of pressure on a population, as well as several breeding strategies (R/K selection theory) that emphasize quantity over quality.

Pressure on a species CAN cause it to produce more offspring, but your logic seems really backwards and twisted from my knowledge of ecology.

Surely a low survival rate would have a drastic effect on breeding numbers? Generally the ability to pass on DNA to future generations relies on the ability to survive, but surely when there isn't sufficient differences in survival ability the defining feature becomes the size of litters. Species with low predator threat run a larger risk of overpopulation, so in the case where a branch of a species does reproduce in significantly large numbers it is less likely to be successful in the long term.

I must admit it's been a long time since I've studied the subject, so it's possible my memory's playing tricks on me. I got in the habit of reading up on animal biology and behaviour a lot during senior school, as well as watching any documentaries I could, but fell out of the habit later on, so my memory could be faulty or based on theories that are horribly outdated.
 

Randy-Darkshade

Bike riding squirrel thing.
She's a fucking misanthropic retard.
I hope she does. I have been bored and anxious all day.

She needs to take a leaf out of her own book and not be the stereotypical, pompus, I am better than you, ignorant Brit.

Judging by they way she spoke in her post I would bet she is from an "upper class" family, and the "upper class" here tend to be the most ignorant of Brits. What I diss like about the "upper class" the types that drive BMW's and other expensive cars, is the fact that many of them (not all) tend to look down on those worse off than they are, they look down on the poor and consider them "trash" which comes from the way victorians were.
 

Rigor Sardonicus

Banned
Banned
Awww cute!
We have an uneducated American troll, No matter what you think of our current administration, you can hardly claim that yours has been any better, indeed, one could argue that you have had some of the worst leaders ever, but I will let you off for being simple.
And there it is again. "Why can't the English teach the English how to speak?" Surely it hasn't been lost on you that my grammar is far superior to yours.

For the record I hardly support our government (or indeed yours) on the vast marjory of issues. I also may add the I won't pass judgement upon laws that I don't know, unlike yourself and I must ask wtf was with the cartoon children remark, that was most odd.[/quote]
Hahahahaha. You live in the UK and don't even know about that?

They passed a law equating lolicon hentai and other such illustrations with actual child pornography involving actual children.

And you called me ignorant? Child, you're just proving my point.

Next topic, lets get this out the way, I feel that you are most uncouth and exhibit aspects of your people, may I recommend that you refrain from this, stereotypical troll behavior.
Of course you may. May I recommend that you take some English lessons and learn how to use commas correctly?

Can I also stare to the board that my views are not what I would call too common with in this green and pleasant land (that is forever teaming with wildlife, unsurprisingly) and that I have been a most fierce about my support for animal rights, often, sadly having to resort to violence, to stop what I consider wrong (the point that comes to mind is the shootings at more than one fox hunt, I was amazingly sent along to).
Oh, so you just admitted you're an eco-terrorist?
Um, sweetie, that fork in your arse means you're done.

What I have done in the past might be considered as wrong, but at the time I considered it required, so I did my duty.
So using violence to stop people from killing a fox is your duty? What if they say it's their duty to kill foxes? What makes them wrong and you right?

I also might note for the record that I consider humans a mistake
You're species-dysphoric? Somehow I'm not surprised. The obvious solution there is to kill yourself.

and feel that (given evolutionary mistakes) that humans are one the weakest species around, yes, you may have the intellectual advantage but, I feel that human physical attributes are most weak are there for are lesser.
Hahaha. Speak for yourself, child. I could kick your ass to Wellington without breaking a sweat--backwards and in heels.

I feel that humans are most wasteful, I am not against hunting, if that is needed for survival, but I find for any other reason it is just pointless.

Humans are more like a bacteria than a real animal, as they hardly find a equilibrium with its own environment and thus I would like to see the human population to fall quickly but I don't argue that human intervention is required to "control" something that nature is quite able to regulate it's self.
First of all, you are thinking of viruses and not bacteria. Secondly, little girl, you are not Agent Smith, and therefore cannot get away with saying such things. I don't know when the last time you looked in the mirror was, but you are irrevocably and incontrovertibly human, at least as far as physiological characteristics go. Your intellect is very clearly subhuman, of course, but that's not what separates the species.

On the topic of fur, I find it most sick and wasteful, pointless and cruel.
Funny, I feel that way about not keeping people like yourself in labor camps.
 

Ozriel

Inglorious Bastard
She needs to take a leaf out of her own book and not be the stereotypical, pompus, I am better than you, ignorant Brit.

Judging by they way she spoke in her post I would bet she is from an "upper class" family, and the "upper class" here tend to be the most ignorant of Brits. What I diss like about the "upper class" the types that drive BMW's and other expensive cars, is the fact that many of them (not all) tend to look down on those worse off than they are, they look down on the poor and consider them "trash" which comes from the way victorians were.

I could tell.
Retarded piggarts. >.>
 
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Ozriel

Inglorious Bastard

Rigor Sardonicus

Banned
Banned

Slade

DROP TABLE furries;--
I don't care if someone buys real fur. I never would because it's damn overpriced, but I have no objections.
 

Ozriel

Inglorious Bastard

Rigor Sardonicus

Banned
Banned

Ozriel

Inglorious Bastard
...so I'm Beetlejuice and you're the Monster Across the Street?

Who's Lydia, then?

I dunno.

First person who posts gets the part.

EDIT: She be replying. Oh noes!
I'll check up on this turd stand in a few once I finish running the Daily heroic. -thumbs-
 
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Rigor Sardonicus

Banned
Banned
How about it's the first person I actually like who posts? D:
 

Trpdwarf

Lurking in Castle Moats
How about it's the first person I actually like who posts? D:

OH ME ME!

Lol...this thread has been a trip. Also am I the only one that looks at the user name in question and thinks of jesskitt?
 

Ozriel

Inglorious Bastard
OH ME ME!

Lol...this thread has been a trip. Also am I the only one that looks at the user name in question and thinks of jesskitt?

You aren't the only one. :V
 

Rigor Sardonicus

Banned
Banned
OH ME ME!
'
...well, I don't dislike you, so okay--if you call me Beej, I'll call you Lyds :p

Lol...this thread has been a trip. Also am I the only one that looks at the user name in question and thinks of jesskitt?
It very well might be her.
 

Trpdwarf

Lurking in Castle Moats

Rigor Sardonicus

Banned
Banned
Haha...alright Beej.
'90s cartoon references--you know I love 'em.

Yeah it might be....the writing style is rather similar?
Lyds, the names are only a letter apart. Seriously, babe, it can't be a coincidence.
 

Trpdwarf

Lurking in Castle Moats
'90s cartoon references--you know I love 'em.


Lyds, the names are only a letter apart. Seriously, babe, it can't be a coincidence.

The golden age of cartoons...;le sigh;

Well, I know that...it's the same name with the two parts switched around. I'm just saying Beej, the writing style of person in question does appear to be rather similar to the other person in question, further making it appear that for some obscure reason that horror of a costume maker is back on FA again...or at least FAF.

EDIT: Hey, where did she go?
 
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