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Smityyyy

Well-Known Member
Not with that dodging your doing

Don’t engage with this, it’ll just start a pointless fight. I have numerous studies and plenty of data on why unions really are one of the only ways to adequately strengthen the power of the working class. If you want to read about it from actual scientific literature, I’ll send it to you.

Do not waste your time on someone who’s clearly uninformed in this area and will continue to bait responses that will create a thread fire and lead to mods stepping in.
 

Frank Gulotta

Send us your floppy

Frank Gulotta

Send us your floppy
one of the only ways
Even in your slam dunk case proving that I don't know what I'm saying, you fail
This other person said "THE only way" and I responded "not really'
You want to avoid making pointless fights, that's brilliant, and now's an excellent opportunity to apply it
 

SirRob

Well-Known Member
It’s an issue of semantics and I think you’re all generally on the same page: unions can help, there are some bad unions, and unions aren’t the only answer, but can be a good answer

I probably shouldn’t have stepped in though because I like seeing Frank and Kope acting like an old married couple
 

Kope

Artist?
Banned
It’s an issue of semantics and I think you’re all generally on the same page: unions can help, there are some bad unions, and unions aren’t the only answer, but can be a good answer

I probably shouldn’t have stepped in though because I like seeing Frank and Kope acting like an old married couple
Lmao it’s fun to argue with him for some reason
 

Smityyyy

Well-Known Member
It’s an issue of semantics and I think you’re all generally on the same page: unions can help, there are some bad unions, and unions aren’t the only answer, but can be a good answer

I probably shouldn’t have stepped in though because I like seeing Frank and Kope acting like an old married couple

My main point is that data suggests that unions are the best way (in our current structure) to advocate for better labor rights and to create equal footing for the average worker against your conglomerates.

There’s other methods but data consistently seems to suggest that the loss of unions has been one of the most detrimental things for the average working class American’s salary and labor rights.

So my only “qualm” was regarding the fact that I prefer to refer to data to make an educated assumption on current issues and as it stands, most of the major issues facing labor rights and unethical employment practices are directly linked to falling union participation. Downplaying this, in my view, usually indicates a misunderstanding of the issues at hand.

Then again, not everyone has been in this game quite as long as myself, so.

Anyways you’re right… it’s early and it’s adorable to see the cute old couple bickering <3 :cool:
 

SirRob

Well-Known Member
My main point is that data suggests that unions are the best way (in our current structure) to advocate for better labor rights and to create equal footing for the average worker against your conglomerates.

There’s other methods but data consistently seems to suggest that the loss of unions has been one of the most detrimental things for the average working class American’s salary and labor rights.

So my only “qualm” was regarding the fact that I prefer to refer to data to make an educated assumption on current issues and as it stands, most of the major issues facing labor rights and unethical employment practices are directly linked to falling union participation. Downplaying this, in my view, usually indicates a misunderstanding of the issues at hand.

Then again, not everyone has been in this game quite as long as myself, so.

Anyways you’re right… it’s early and it’s adorable to see the cute old couple bickering <3 :cool:
I wanna clarify before I say anything, that this isn't a point against your point, because I agree with you.

I wanna give a reminder that we're on a furry forum. People aren't normally going to have research data and studies prepared to back up their shitposting. There isn't even a serious discussion forum here. This is a vent thread. It's fine for you to interject with your opinion on an argument and provide your own thoughts and back it up with data, but at that point you're gonna be a lot more invested in the argument than anyone else. It's not gonna be worth your time in other words.

Edit: I realize now that you basically said the exact same thing to Kope, so... I guess writing this up wasn't worth my time either, rofl
 

Minerva_Minx

Explosion loving skooma cat
Lmao it’s fun to argue with him for some reason
Please don't. Everytime this goes from "woe is me" to "gas+match equals fun" you guys are bored. Only so much d-swinging one can handle
 

Minerva_Minx

Explosion loving skooma cat
Maybe if you helped me work up the courage to finally commit suicide then I wouldn't be a bother to anyone anymore

And uhm, no one the aid. However 988 is the suicide hotline.
 

SirRob

Well-Known Member
Maybe if you helped me work up the courage to finally commit suicide then I wouldn't be a bother to anyone anymore
I'm not gonna convince you, but you're no more of a bother than anyone else here. In other words, you're fine. And if anyone who was ever a bother to anyone else killed themselves, then we'd all be dead. And don't start saying "well that would be a good thing" because I'm already anticipating it and have prepared a 2000 page document arguing against it. Are you prepared to read a 2000 page document?
 

ben909

vaporeon character != mushroom characters
Maybe if you helped me work up the courage to finally commit suicide then I wouldn't be a bother to anyone anymore
you really should try and get professional help
 

Kope

Artist?
Banned

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Working until 9pm today... *phew*

the rest had pretty awful ones. When I first jumped from retail/minimum wage into laboratory work, I expected better management, but even in high level jobs things can suck. Fingers crossed that unionization out here continues to grow!

When I was trying to boot-strap a dataset into existence I was working 10-12 hours and eventually I ended up collapsing unconscious in the lab. :}

Then it turned out that the machine I was using for some of the analysis had a flaw and that none of the data it made could be used.

and the tests were destructive so I couldn't run them again. ^-^
 
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Kope

Artist?
Banned
Working until 9pm today... *phew*



When I was trying to boot-strap a dataset into existence I was working 10-12 hours and eventually I ended up collapsing unconscious in the lab. :}

Then it turned out that the machine I was using for some of the analysis had a flaw and that none of the data it made could be used.

and the tests were destructive so I couldn't run them again. ^-^
I'm so sorry
 

Smityyyy

Well-Known Member
Well I signed a job contract today, and I start Monday. Work itself seems easy enough. It's no longer an outsourcing corporate bullshit where my worth as a human being is determined on a 1/5 stars that angry pissed off customers provide after I explain to them 100 times that we cannot give them $100,000 worth of products for free.

The pay is low but so seems the effort and stress levels. And, to be honest, I need to heal more than anything. I still feel detached from reality and sometimes I can't tell if I'm alive or not.


Good attitude, man. I feel like people need to care more about doing what’s good for them mentally. Hope things work out well for ya.
 

Smityyyy

Well-Known Member
Thank you. For the past 3 years, I've been working for some of the biggest corporations in the world and I feel like I've aged at least 10 years, if not 20. I don't recognize myself anymore and my health is fucked. Hopefully this will let me recover, if it isn't too late for that.
It is never too late to recover. Good luck on your journey, it takes a lot of strength to make the decision to focus on yourself first. Hope everything starts getting better for ya.
 
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LameFox

Guest
It's more that if you aim for what you like yourself then over time you'll end up attracting other people who like it—but there are definitely limits to this. Not everyone's personal tastes have a significant audience waiting in the shadows, and the smaller it is the harder it is to reach.
 

quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
It’s been said that creating for yourself paradoxically makes other people appreciate what you create more.

That’s not happening with what I’ve been creating.
Long term, and in a pretty broad sense, it probably checks out. Having some kind of passion, for lack of a better word, has a non-zero chance of reflecting in the finished product. When it does, it can add an extra something that an audience picks up on. Conversely, if you go through the motions in order to create what you think people want to see, you run the risk of your lack of interest in the work reflecting in the end result. I also don’t think it’s healthy to create in pursuit of outside validation - people who focus on views and faves, especially comparing them to others’, often are just bringing themselves stress.

The crux of it is that your content still has to get in front of eyeballs in order to be appreciated by an audience. To what degree this is something you want to strive for is a judgment no one else can make for you. I just know that I’d rather have a smaller following that appreciates the work I want to create, than a larger one that expects work I have little interest in from me.
 
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