I have a fairly tight knit personal circle of people I've known for 10+ years. We went to school together. One of them, we'll just call Frank, started dating someone who we'll call June about 3 years ago. They live together now, plan to get married, have two gorgeous dogs together, and actively push each other to do better.
They did not follow the usual couples trend of "you have your friends, I have mine".
Frank made an express effort to integrate June in our group. She plays games with us. She's in my Discord server. We invite them both to gatherings. Etc. Doing as friends do.
When she first started talking with us, she was naturally nervous and wary of how to interact with new people. Formal, stuffy, skittish. So I took it upon myself to extend a friendly hand and just be amicable towards her to break the ice. I figured in her being comfortable around me it would inspire everyone else to be the same. Thats how I've known friendships to work.
For the last year, I would just chat with her the same way I would the rest of my friends. Exactly the same way. Send her stupid memes, video game bullshit, ask if shes hanging out with us on specific dates etc. I helped her plan Frank's 30th birthday.
No romantic messages. None at weird times. No "good mornings". No "good nights". Nothing that could be considered a pet name. Kept it strictly casual exactly how I'd message anyone.
And one day she came to me with a concern that I think let her be a little more comfortable around us.
June was worried in the unfortunate event Frank and her split, would she be "banished" (lol) from my group. She doesnt want to be seen as a tag along or some extension of Frank. Even making mention no one else was really talking to her. It's something I had actually thought of myself which is why I tried to simply speak to her more just through Discord DM's. Thats how I know to make friendships, one on one talking. So she had at least someone besides Frank in this group (he wanted her to be part of) show that her company is appreciated.
I made it clear that there are certain things we are inherently careful of because A) shes a girl B) shes *someone's* girl. We dont want to cross boundaries, so that bond at our age might build a little slower. We had a long talk about it and I think we both felt a bit more at ease that day. This was weeks ago.
This past Friday, we're in voice chat and theres a moment Frank are alone chatting. I bring up a funny conversation June and I had with him. It was nothing pressing at all. Just some goofy shit I thought he'd get a chuckle from and maybe bounce back with something. We continue to talk about Yugioh and other shit and then go to bed in like an hour.
I wake up and the first notification I see at 7 AM "Frank said we can't talk privately anymore. After talking to him about it last night, I get his perspective. It is kind of weird."
What?
So I go to Frank. I tell him I'm not gonna combat him but that it stings a bit he couldnt have just talked to me the night before about this if he had reservations. I also confidently gave him full permission to go through our messages to see theres no foul play. He would even find messages where I emphatically state I'm not trying to generate friction.
He told me its not about the content. It's that I talk to her in a one on one environment at all. "Nothing needs to be said in private." (Including his birthday party he didnt know I was integral to organizing I guess)
So he has a conversation with June about me where I dont know what was said that I could defend against. And he convinced June in what could have only been 1 or 2 hours to second guess my intentions and totally stop talking to me after a year of doing so.
"If you wanna talk to her on Discord, you can just do it in the main chat where I can see it."
WHAT?
So if I want to talk to June, I have to now talk to her in front of everyone else in the server. Ok fine. But, if I want her attention to do that, I would have to repeatedly tag her. I dont do that with anybody when I want to talk about something with just one person. I go to their DM's. NO ONE operates like this. And I'm not going to start with *someones girlfriend* because how does that look?
"
@June! Hey
@June! Yo
@June!
@June I got something for you to see!
@June you little shit!
@June [GiancarloEspositoglare.jpg]"
This singles her out and looks weirder than just using the faculties that allow for simple talking. I dont talk in DM'S to hide from Frank. Its *DIRECT*, unbroken chains of discussion that are convenient for everyone.
So is June not allowed to speak with anyone in the group like I was? Is it insecurity or do you not trust anyone you've known for 12-15 years? More pressing, do you not trust your girlfriend's loyalty? Is it just ME you dont want talking her? If so why am I a threat? Wheres the line actually drawn for interacting with her? If I'm at your place and you're in another room, can I talk to June or do I need to wait?
Do you see how "Judge Spear cant talk to June anymore" looks SO incredibly shitty and how this makes NO sense?
That comes to light and everyone is going to instantly assume I attempted to put moves on someone's SO which was not the case. This is so stressful, needless, and frustrating. I have never been put in this position before and it pulls up all manner of harmful ramifications and implications.
I've known this motherfucker for 12 years. I have never given a reason to think I'm some homewrecker. But if he tries to spin it that way, I'm raining blinding hellfire on him to vindicate myself. Because if June wants to immediately think the worst of my interactions, the friendship wasnt worth establishing. Whatever. But you will not make me look like a creep to my longest friends. Fuck that.