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Astus

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Yeah, and just to recall from your last post:



So, to back up a bit, I guess it's possible pornography could be used as an outlet to help mitigate these deviant feelings, if they become desensitized to them and have to turn to something else. In all honesty, as can be seen from the research, there isn't much compelling evidence one way or the other, so the only logical conclusion one can draw is it neither helps nor exacerbates the situation to any great extent. That's why I think any argument trying to claim pornography either encourages or discourages sexual predation will degenerate into what we saw yesterday.



Like what? I mean, there is chemical castration, but one would hope will power would be enough. Obviously the people in question don't have the ability to overcome these desires through will power alone or they wouldn't be asking to take such drastic measures.



That's not a thought, though. The action you took by posting it online is enough to make it a threat.



The parent can, and must, consent on certain things like medical decisions. They can be tried as negligent when making bad decisions for the child. For example, if your child is dying of meningitis and you take him to an "alternative medical practitioner" as opposed to a real doctor you are held liable for the child's death. When it comes to sex, the parent has no way to know how the child will react, but I don't see why this is even a topic of discussion in the first place. The only reason I see a parent making this decision is when some adult wants to take advantage of the child which is both sick and wrong.



Not literally :V

Children at a very young age, as far as I'm aware, are not usually interested in sex. As you say later on, the child might want to please a family member like a parent or an uncle and this is the very definition of being taken advantage of.



I'd be wary of sites that get their information from other sites that all have a financial bias. I'm not going to argue that children are not traumatized by such acts, but I've read plenty of information from both sides to know it's somewhere along the lines of the pornography debate. It probably causes some degree of trauma and this is probably much less than people make it out to be. In fact, things like this (quoted from the site you linked to) might be even more detrimental than the original trauma, itself:



You can easily see, by things like Munchausen By Proxy Syndrome, what severe psychological impact parental behavior can have on children. If the parent is so convinced the child will be traumatized then it's just as likely in this case the child would end up believing it (and therefore manifesting it) as well.



Perverts? In a furry forum? NO WAY

Haha, honestly I'd prefer intellectual discussion over a circle-jerk of fox porn any day :V



Aww, how cute. He wants some more :3

I was just having some fun with you. Put your pants back on and we'll continue this in another thread.


You didn't understand what I meant by, seeking stronger stimulation, I meant they would actually want to go after a child rather then just think about it in their head. I'll just use this as an example: someone has a sexual attraction to shoving a dildo up their butt, whatever the reason is it really turns them on. They look up porn of people doing it and they keep mastrubating to it over and over again. Eventually thay stimulus doesn't become enough for them, so they go out and buy a real dildo to to it in reality for themselves to achieve that amazing feeling they've been looking for. That's what I meant.

Other things as in psychoanalysis and giving them an effective treatment based on that analysis, be it medication or somthing else, you don't always need to castrate someone to make them stop having certain sexual tendencies.

I picked thay article firstly because it was pretty much the first link on google, as well it had a lot of the information my psych teacher, here at my university, went over in class when we talked about this. She was an adolescent councilor in a large case study of mistreated children in various cities. There were those that didn't show a lot of change after sexual abuse, and there were those that developed a bunch of issues; some of her research went into the large research papers done on the subject.


On the subject of actually doing something, they are doing something; they're pleasuring themselves to picutres of children. And as I said before with the dildo analogy, there is always a chance that they will do something. Go on inkbunny and look at the comments some people leave on the sexual babyfur picutres and tell me things like 'so sexy' and 'I wish I could have them' type of comments aren't inductive of someone who is willing to perform those actions on real children if they had the chance.


As for the proxy syndrome, sure that may be a case, but do you really think that doing something like vaginal sex with a sexually premature female wouldn't cause physical pain and scarring? I remember one particularly bad story where there was a man who had anal sex with a newborn and literally tore the baby open. Seriosuly you think something like that wouldn't cause psychological harm as an adult? Children sometimes develop anxiety and depression as adults from things like being punched one time, or being hit whenever they do something wrong, so what part of you would say that sexual abuse wouldn't cause the same problems?
 

Somnium

The Sparklewolf
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tbh i was touched inappropriately when i was about 6 or 7 years old, nothing to excessive though, and i didn't like it, felt kinda violated. I think trauma comes from many many occurrences or single very traumatizing one like rape.
 

Ricky

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You didn't understand what I meant by, seeking stronger stimulation, I meant they would actually want to go after a child rather then just think about it in their head. I'll just use this as an example: someone has a sexual attraction to shoving a dildo up their butt, whatever the reason is it really turns them on. They look up porn of people doing it and they keep mastrubating to it over and over again. Eventually thay stimulus doesn't become enough for them, so they go out and buy a real dildo to to it in reality for themselves to achieve that amazing feeling they've been looking for. That's what I meant.

No, no... I understood what you meant. I was offering an alternative, in that they might get bored of that paraphilia and move onto something else. Truth be told, I have no idea one way or the other and Sci-Hub doesn't seem to be working at the moment, but this one seems interesting so I'll just leave it here for when I'm in a library that has access:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov: Digital and divergent: sexual behaviors on the Internet. - PubMed - NCBI

Other things as in psychoanalysis and giving them an effective treatment based on that analysis, be it medication or somthing else, you don't always need to castrate someone to make them stop having certain sexual tendencies.

What medication? o_O

I picked thay article firstly because it was pretty much the first link on google, as well it had a lot of the information my psych teacher, here at my university, went over in class when we talked about this. She was an adolescent councilor in a large case study of mistreated children in various cities. There were those that didn't show a lot of change after sexual abuse, and there were those that developed a bunch of issues; some of her research went into the large research papers done on the subject.

It would be interesting to see a study showing how the impact of the trauma correlates to parental views on how to council the child. For example, does the parent think the child underestimates, overestimates or is accurately judging the impact the event had? It is a leading question for a specific reason.

On the subject of actually doing something, they are doing something; they're pleasuring themselves to picutres of children. And as I said before with the dildo analogy, there is always a chance that they will do something. Go on inkbunny and look at the comments some people leave on the sexual babyfur picutres and tell me things like 'so sexy' and 'I wish I could have them' type of comments aren't inductive of someone who is willing to perform those actions on real children if they had the chance.

I don't think anyone should dictate what people do to "get off".

Trust me, I'm well aware of what goes on at Inkbunny :eek:

As for the proxy syndrome, sure that may be a case, but do you really think that doing something like vaginal sex with a sexually premature female wouldn't cause physical pain and scarring?

I never said that, and I never said it won't cause psychological trauma. That's one reason I agreed it's wrong. My point was, the parent could be exacerbating the issue by continuously reminding the child of the trauma and the extent they think it should have. In line with prior research I've read, it's very possible people overestimate this as well.

This thread is like a roller coaster that only goes down.

THE BEST KIND! :D
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
@Ricky I don't think people get bored of one paraphilia and move onto another, unfortunately. :\ Fixations tend to be, well, fixed.

Regards medication used to treat sex offenders, one option is temporary suppression of libido, followed by careful attempts to 'rebuild' the libido with a preference for adults. A smattering of researchers claim they can do this, but there is no consensus that it works.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
@Fallowfox Well, I'm glad you know what goes on in other people's heads.

Also, that's chemical castration. Isn't that included in 'castration' in general?

I don't remember if what I read included that, it was a long time ago.

Well it's not permanent. I'm not sure whether chemical castration is, or what variations exist upon it.

I don't like the idea of chemically neutering people very much to be honest; imagine if someone was wrongly convicted and told they either had to go to prison or be neutered.
 

Ricky

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Well it's not permanent. I'm not sure whether chemical castration is, or what variations exist upon it.

It's not permanent, which is why court-mandated chemical castration is carefully monitored.

In the US at least, the laws regarding it vary widely state-to-state.

I don't like the idea of chemically neutering people very much to be honest; imagine if someone was wrongly convicted and told they either had to go to prison or be neutered.

Hah! "Neutering"
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I know several furries who'd actually be turned on by the thought :V
 
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scet

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Oh gosh this all kinds of directions in crazy places

Peoe are just born liking what they like, let's try not to rip off people's body parts cause that like something most people don't like
 
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