Main Site What can we do to make AUP 3.2 Fit for Purpose?

[RestrainedRaptor]

We're facing the twilight days of the forum, so I might as well try this one last time.

This is not a duplicate of a previous thread, which was specific to a single user's appeal. This thread is purely about policy, although if you want to see supporting evidence and case studies about several previous enforcements and appeals, I suggest you read this journal on DA, which also contains a short, helpful list of suggestions for what FA admins could do next.

For everyone's benefit, I shall summarise the issue here. Section 3.2 of the AUP is written in a way that appears to specifically prohibit adult toys, or things that have been turned into adult toys. However, in practice, it is used to delete pictures of fursuiters in bondage, wearing muzzles, latex, or other kinds of fetish gear, regardless of keywords & maturity, pose, etc. Sometimes other parts of section 3 are also cited, such as 'indecent photography' in situations where the fursuit covers the entire body and nothing explicit is on display. This is dangerously inconsistent, and it has resulted in dozens or possibly hundreds of users having their pictures deleted over 5+ years for reasons they could never have anticipated.

I think it's in everyone's interest for FA staff to...

1. Deliver a clear explanation of the intent behind the policies and how they're enforced (i.e. why are you doing this and why is it an issue for FA when no other website does it?)
2. Make one of the following two changes:
   a) Rewrite section 3.2, or perhaps add an extra rule to section 3, that covers fetish clothing and gear so people know what is and isn't acceptable; or
   b) Give admins and moderators a memo/training so as not to delete content that doesn't break the AUP as it currently stands.

You don't have to hate me and you don't have to like me either. You just have to recognize that there's an issue, and make a pledge to resolve it. That's the first step. Thank you for your time.

 

[luffy]

If you post an image of yourself dressed up in a fursuit and the theme is fetishistic and you acknowledge that it's NSFW because you marked it Adult or Mature, then yes, we'll remove it, because yes, that acknowledgement is admission that it's NSFW, and no, we do not allow indecent photography. If the focus in this admittedly-NSFW content is a fursuit, then yes, that fursuit is inherently considered a part of it, and therefore, is an "adult object", as the content is NSFW.

All of this was already publicized by not-administration so I am comfortable bringing it up.

If you need someone to explain to you that the content that you marked NSFW yourself is NSFW, then there is a lack of understanding that not even the most thorough explanation will clarify.

Locking this as you're beating a dead horse, and, quite frankly, you are lucky you've not already been suspended or banned either here or the main site as you have technically been breaking the rules repeatedly bringing up this third-party issue that you do not seem to have full context on. Otherwise, you would not be confused. I recommend getting all the details because when I look at evidence for this case, I'm like, "god damn that's blatant."

Thank you