What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thread)

[Roose Hurro]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

From what I know about our current understanding of physics the past is uncertain and the future is set in stone.

You're forgetting something important. We already know that, for a traverler traveling near the speed of light, it's all a matter of who's watching, and from where. To those observing the ship from earth, time aboard the ship appears to slow down. But to those aboard the ship, time outside appears to speed up.

So, to someone in the present, it's the future that's uncertain, the past that is writ in stone. But to one who travels into the past, while that past becomes their present, from their viewpoint, the past becomes uncertain, since they now have the power to change it, but the future, having already occured to them, appears writ in stone. I'd say it's the present that always remains fluid, a person's movement along the timeline simply changing their view of past and future. In this way, I'd say all of time is fluid... if timetravel (into the past) became possible and practical.

Though the most interesting theory of time I've heard described time as fixed, both past and future, each "moment" like a still photo, our "movement" through time simply a perceptual illusion. Which would mean all of time is fixed, rather than fluid. Which would also mean, if we could alter our perceptions, we could travel through time, if only back and forth along our own perceptual timeline, just as we can open a photo album and view any "picture" (or series of pictures) in it.

Heh... then there was this concept: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2rz7bMeDTA ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssbUPxWnGmk&feature=related

 

[CannonFodder]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

You're forgetting something important. We already know that, for a traverler traveling near the speed of light, it's all a matter of who's watching, and from where. To those observing the ship from earth, time aboard the ship appears to slow down. But to those aboard the ship, time outside appears to speed up.

So, to someone in the present, it's the future that's uncertain, the past that is writ in stone. But to one who travels into the past, while that past becomes their present, from their viewpoint, the past becomes uncertain, since they now have the power to change it, but the future, having already occured to them, appears writ in stone. I'd say it's the present that always remains fluid, a person's movement along the timeline simply changing their view of past and future. In this way, I'd say all of time is fluid... if timetravel (into the past) became possible and practical.

Though the most interesting theory of time I've heard described time as fixed, both past and future, each "moment" like a still photo, our "movement" through time simply a perceptual illusion. Which would mean all of time is fixed, rather than fluid. Which would also mean, if we could alter our perceptions, we could travel through time, if only back and forth along our own perceptual timeline, just as we can open a photo album and view any "picture" (or series of pictures) in it.

Heh... then there was this concept: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2rz7bMeDTA ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssbUPxWnGmk&feature=related

The more accurate metphorical description of time would be a frozen river. Also thinking of space-time as a slide show is just wrong. The brane of the universe can mold, warp. Think of space-time as a giant roll of paper crumbled up. It is possible for us to travel along the paper, but under regular means it is impossible for anything to jump off the paper onto another segment.

In this case Twilight created a time bypass in which she immediatly travelled to another completely different segment in the brane of the universe. The most likely explanation of how she was able to go back in time without creating a paradox was that she caused a temporary collision point in between two points. If that is the case then not just her should have travelled back in time, but a whole lot of stuff as well.
Half of Equestria should have been dragged into the time collision.



.... -_- You know what we're overthinking this... Let's just theorize Cadence controls time and leave it at that.

 

[TechnoGypsy]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

.... -_- You know what we're overthinking this... Let's just theorize Cadence controls time and leave it at that.

Nonono keep going. It's quite fascinating really.

And I dare say you taught me a few more things about time theory.

 

[CannonFodder]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Nonono keep going. It's quite fascinating really.

And I dare say you taught me a few more things about time theory.

Okay then.

If I am right and Twilight did create a collision point between two points in time then not just her should have been dragged into the past, but a ton of stuff should have been dragged into the future temporarily as well. It should have been a ripple effect where everything in the local area being temporarily in the two times at the same time. Basically two canterlots existing at the same time, as well as two of everyone at the same time. It should have then rippled out and dissipated rapidly like a ripple in a pond.

If her magic somehow prevented that then at the very least the immediate area should have been dragged along as well. If Twilight's magic somehow caused a very small collision point for a very short time the collision in between the two times would have been vastly more drastic and chaotic than just her.

Since just Twilight was sent to the past that's border line impossible even if she created a collision point in between the two times, it would take a ton of energy just to create the collision. Even more energy to prevent the two times from happening at the same time and far more energy just to transport herself to the past instead of half the city.

Which is why I said let's just say Cadence had something to do with it, cause with the near impossibility plus the impossibility of just Twilight going into the past means that the only solution is that Cadence stabilizes the timeline somehow.

tl:dr; this whole episode is impossible.

 

[8-bit]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Cadence wasn't supposed to be an Alicorn. Hasbro made her one because princesses are pretty.


Discussion ended.

 

[Ariosto]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Dear Princess Celestia,

Today I learned that time travel is not as "simple" as most science fiction works paint it or I believed it to be, and just plain fucking impossible with modern theories and technological achievements, even in a fictional context. That, and Twilight is a cheating bastard. Also, who's this "Cadence" people are speaking about?

Yours truly, Aristócrates Rosendo Carranza González*.

*Yes, I just came up with that.

EDIT:
@CF: Have you watched Steins;Gate? Apparently, it has a very compelling treatment of Time Travel.

 

[CannonFodder]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Dear Princess Celestia,

Today I learned that time travel is not as "simple" as most science fiction works paint it or I believed it to be, and just plain fucking impossible with modern theories and technological achievements, even in a fictional context. That, and Twilight is a cheating bastard. Also, who's this "Cadence" people are speaking about?

Yours truly, Aristócrates Rosendo Carranza González*.

*Yes, I just came up with that.

EDIT:
@CF: Have you watched Steins;Gate? Apparently, it has a very compelling treatment of Time Travel.

Yes Twilight cheated badly with her time travel spell.


No I have not seen that movie. I've wanted to, but the problem is I have no way of getting to watch it.

 

[Ariosto]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Yes Twilight cheated badly with her time travel spell.


No I have not seen that movie. I've wanted to, but the problem is I have no way of getting to watch it.

It's an anime, not a movie. It came out in 2011.

 

[BRN]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Dear Princess Celestia,

Today I learned that time travel is not as "simple" as most science fiction works paint it or I believed it to be, and just plain fucking impossible with modern theories and technological achievements, even in a fictional context. That, and Twilight is a cheating bastard. Also, who's this "Cadence" people are speaking about?

Yours truly, Aristócrates Rosendo Carranza González*.

*Yes, I just came up with that.

EDIT:
@CF: Have you watched Steins;Gate? Apparently, it has a very compelling treatment of Time Travel.

Dear Aristócrates;

Worry not. The universe has eleven mathematical dimensions, and you occupy space in just three of them; although it's also true that every single spot in space is also a six-dimension manifold, projected onto a two-dimensional hologram at the boundary of all conceivable four-dimensional hyper-spheres.

:3,
Princess Trollestia.

 

[moonchylde]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Journey to acquire McDonald's Pinkie Pie toy.

Day 1:

Today ended in disappointment. I arrived at the closest McDonald's and asked if they stocked the pony in question. Rather than name the pony, I decided to describe it, pink body/pink hair, that easy, to the broken english voice on the other end. She replies with the a 'huh'. I tried a second time but that ended the same way. Then, as either a master of steering the conversation or displaying skills trained to level of most parrots, she asks 'you want happy meal?"

"Yes," I broke down in frustration, willing to gamble on the toy I want.

"Boy or girl."

"Girl," I replied. She must be smirking on the other end of the drive thru mic knowing that once again she's blocked another person from finding out what toys they have. Corporate must be proud. I order a chocolate milk, if that's what you want to call what McDonald's sells.

The payment happened unceremoniously, she held the face that looked like she was only half way through her shift. Bored out of her mind, I provided little challenge. She swiped my debit card and handed the receipt back to me.

I waited anxiously in my car at the pick up window. Is tonight a lucky night?

The guy serving at the window hands me my box. I immediately rip the top open and dig for the toy, it was a transformer. Fuck transformers, I want a pony. I frantically waved the guy down before he would walk off. He returns.

"Needed the girl toy, BRO," I called out when he opened the window, handing the toy back to him. "The pink one," I mentioned just before he closed the window. He nodded and headed back, only coming out with two toys. Fluttershy and Twilight Sparkle. Slightly heartbroken and shuttering in revolt at the thought of owning a TS toy, I reluctant accept FS, knowing that I'll have to refine my tactics if I plan on owning a Pinkie Pie. Tomorrow, shall be different.

Try a different McDonalds... the different stores usually get different toys at the same time, even if their only a few blocks away. You also may want to go inside and talk to someone; it saves a lot of confusion in the long run. I got lucky yesterday; managed to find a store that still had leftovers from last week's shipment, so I was able to pick up four of the toys instead of that weeks two. You can buy them without the meal; the manager at my store said that they usually charge $1.56, but since I also ordered food, she only charged me $.95 for each toy. No Pinkie Pie yet, but I do have three of the mane six plus Lilly Blossom. Plus, after explaining to the cashier and the manager WHY I wanted the toys, and mentioning the Powerpuff Girls connection, I may have brought two more people to the herd.

Oh, and in regards to the rest of the current conversation...

 

[8-bit]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

I got a Pinkie Pie :3

 

[Roose Hurro]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

It's an anime, not a movie. It came out in 2011.

Funny thing, but I was looking up links to series videos, since I haven't heard of this anime before, and it sounded interesting... well, one of the episode titles refered to "The Butterfly Effect", which is a movie title, with a very interesting premise that tied into my thoughts on the possibility of sending a person's present consciousness into their past body. The movie even rightly set up that this individual's past visits would result in his past self blacking out, during the moments his furture consciousness was "in occupation". I found it a very intriguing film on the subject.

As for Equestria? Well, it is, to all intents and purposes, another entire universe, unto its own, so our "rules" don't necessarily carry over. Besides, didn't books and scrolls/papers come through along with future Twilight? Sucked in and blown out with the flash of light?

I got a Pinkie Pie :3

What does it taste like? And did you get it plain, with whipped cream, or a la mode?

 

[Ariosto]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

"The Butterfly Effect"

That movie would be a lot better if it wasn't as set in being so damn unpleasant and I gave a damn about anyone on the screen.

 

[Commiecomrade]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Well this one girl gave me three custom sculpted Fluttershys, a McDonalds 'Shy, and a blind bag one.

Definitely want to get to know her better.

 

[CannonFodder]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

Well this one girl gave me three custom sculpted Fluttershys, a McDonalds 'Shy, and a blind bag one.

Definitely want to get to know her better.

Then get to know her.

 

[Roose Hurro]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

That movie would be a lot better if it wasn't as set in being so damn unpleasant and I gave a damn about anyone on the screen.

Still an interesting look at time travel, from a perspective I'd never seen done before (though I was already aware of where the term "butterfly effect" came from). But yes, as a movie, it could have been better done. Good thing I didn't pay full price to see it (saw it in the "cheap" theater).

 

[Shà nwà ng]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

The Journey for Pinkie Pie Day 2.

The Conclusioning.

Dear Princess Celestia:

Today I learned with a little persistence, a day off, and modern technology, anyone can accomplish their goals! Today your faithful government intelligence specialist Googled nearby McDonald's restaurants to see what he could quickly reach. Because McDonald's is a blood thirsty, therefore, highly patronized corporation, there were quite a few in a five mile radius. All their telephone numbers were listed.

My first few calls ended in disappointment. There were busy signals, no answers, and 'no we no have pink! replies" I was beginning to worry I'd have to travel great distances to get my prize. I was nearing the last restaurants when I struck gold, pony gold.

"Hello, I was wondering if you had the happy meal girl toys?"

"Yes, we having them."

"Do you have the pink one, with reddish hair?"

"Oh I have the whole set."

"You have the whole set?"

"Yes."

"Ok, thank you!"

Nervous joy coursed through my veins as I put on a pair of 'in public pants' and a lazy t-shirt. I fumbled with my car keys and sped to red lights on the way to that store, determined to get the pink prize. Austin has a habit of having annoyingly long red lights so what should have been a five minute drive, wasn't. When I arrived, I forgot that this was the location in front of a school. A dreaded, god forsaken middle school. Like most American public schools. But it's spring break and so I was lucky to avoid having to deal with annoying kids.

When I came to the counter, I reiterated how I wanted the girl's happy meal toys and that I had called earlier about the collection. Befuddled, the near 16 year old girl behind the register scrambled to find a manager and promptly returned. With a slight lazy eye, the manager remembered the convo and told a minimum wage minion to go get the box. They soon promptly returned with the treasure.

Pinkie Pie, Rarity, Rainbow Dash...they were all there. I contained my giddy. Then the thought hit me: why just get one when you can have them all? As we went through the numbers, 1-8, we soon discovered one was missing. #5 was missing in action. Despite this set back, I had to persist. I purchased all six (sans the Fluttershy) and a chicken nugget happy meal. All was well. Mostly. But I felt nagged.

Only when I arrived home is when I realized who was missing in action. #5 was Applejack. I wasn't too concerned at first, thinking maybe they hadn't released her toy yet or maybe I just wouldn't complete the set. But when I unwrapped Cherilee and Not-Derpy Hooves, I felt I couldn't leave a friend behind. I headed to the phone again and called another restaurant. The same restaurant that I had purchased the Fluttershy from on day 1. To my luck and joy, they had the missing friend in action. Again, promptly, I hopped into my car and sped to pick the toy up. There was a slight setback when I arrived, however. I received the toy but they didn't have the shamrock shake. I was slightly upset but in a forgiving mood.

So in the end it all worked out. My fanboy obsession overrode my typical frugality to not spend money on anything but booze and video games.

Your faithful overgrown man child,
Shànwàng

ps.
They all would like to say hi.
http://imgur.com/J3H81

 

[Heimdal]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

ps.
They all would like to say hi.
http://imgur.com/J3H81

Damn straight they are N7! We all saw Fluttershy take down Cerberus.

 

[DevistatedDrone]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

New Friendship is Witchcraft. I squee'd with glee.

I found it embarrassing that I understood everything about the fanfics and anime reference.

Also, Dole Bro is my new favorite phrase.

 

[Ikrit]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

i am quite amused that this fandom is still kicking,

oh well...just wait for the family guy effect...

 

[CannonFodder]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

i am quite amused that this fandom is still kicking,

oh well...just wait for the family guy effect...

It's not going to.
I could go into a long detailed explanation of why the family guy effect doesn't pertain to fandoms and only memes, but I'll just use a analogy. Imagine the mlp: fim fandom as katamari damacy.

 

[DevistatedDrone]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

It's not going to.
I could go into a long detailed explanation of why the family guy effect doesn't pertain to fandoms and only memes, but I'll just use a analogy. Imagine the mlp: fim fandom as katamari damacy.

This.

The fandom wont die, or at least not soon. It will just snowball, getting bigger and bigger until years down the line some other fandom decides to bloom and the MLP slushball will slowly start to melt away.

My bet is on another remake of a pre-90s product that gets revamped into a multidimensional setting. God forbid that the next fandom is original.

 

[CannonFodder]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

This.

The fandom wont die, or at least not soon. It will just snowball, getting bigger and bigger until years down the line some other fandom decides to bloom and the MLP slushball will slowly start to melt away.

Until the inevitable at least-
NAAAA Na Na Nana Nana Na Na KATAMARY DAMACY!

 

[Heimdal]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

I could only see the fandom lasting up to a couple years after the show ends, then it will fade away into fond memory.

On the other hand, given the amount and quality of show-appropriate material this fandom can produce, I wouldn't be too surprised to see groups of the more talented fans making their own episodes. To a smaller extent, this already happens...

What happened with Family Guy?

 

[CannonFodder]

Re: What is with all of this "My little pony" stuff? (The unofficial official MLP Thr

I could only see the fandom lasting up to a couple years after the show ends, then it will fade away into fond memory.

On the other hand, given the amount and quality of show-appropriate material this fandom can produce, I wouldn't be too surprised to see groups of the more talented fans making their own episodes. To a smaller extent, this already happens...

What happened with Family Guy?

But keep in mind this is hasbro we are talking about and this isn't the first mlp show. Meaning there's probably going to be a generation 5.

Yeah there are actually people who produce their own stuff. I actually watch someone on youtube that produces ten minute long fan videos. Granted it's in garry's mod cause of the obvious fact it's easier to make a video using garry's mod than flash, he does a decent job.
But yeah, it's to a smaller extent. Bronies already make their own fan animation, but if a group of about 20 bronies got together they could make their own complete full length episodes.


The family guy effect basically says that any meme that makes it on family guy dies.